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Title: Which starter should I get?
Post by: rdf on June 22, 2021, 04:06:43 PM
I've got a 440 that's been stroked to a 493 and we just burned out the starter solenoid.  I'm thinking it wasn't a high torque starter.  For those that have high torque/hp, what do you run?
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: cuda hunter on June 22, 2021, 05:47:03 PM
https://www.tuffstuffperformance.com/i-24486070-gear-reduction-starter-tuff-torque-gray-painted-6084b.html?ref=category:1267401

Made in the USA
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: HP2 on June 24, 2021, 06:14:52 AM
Go to your local chain store, ask for a '95 Ram truck V8 starter. Compact, high torque, $70 out the door.  If you kill it, repeat. Although my cheap chain store refurb starter has been spinning my 11:1 motor for 30 years now.
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: RUNCHARGER on June 24, 2021, 06:37:42 AM
I agree, I actuallly used a starter out of a Dakota for my 472 Hemi that I bought for $15 from PicNPull. It lasted much longer than anything shiny from China.
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: cuda hunter on June 24, 2021, 06:48:24 AM
I've just gone through every parts store around me.  Napa, auto, oreilly ,carquest.   All are made in China or malaysia(contracted with china).  Pretty much just the Ultima is a mexico reman.  Closest to being made in Mexico. 

A remanned one is 85 bucks up here and a new one is 180.00. 
The remans only come with a few years warranty whereas the new ones come with a lifetime warranty.  With the cheaper parts on all the china models available I would personally spend the extra money for the new one.

If you want American made you have to buy the tuff stuff starter. 
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: BIGSHCLUNK on June 24, 2021, 08:07:23 AM
I bought a new DENSO from Dave @ Roseville years ago.... no issues ! :wrenching:
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: Mrbill426 on June 24, 2021, 09:56:22 AM
I may be wrong but I believe if you ask, NAPA warranties even their rebuilt  starters for life.   :thinking:





Quote from: cuda hunter on June 24, 2021, 06:48:24 AM
I've just gone through every parts store around me.  Napa, auto, oreilly ,carquest.   All are made in China or malaysia(contracted with china).  Pretty much just the Ultima is a mexico reman.  Closest to being made in Mexico. 

A remanned one is 85 bucks up here and a new one is 180.00. 
The remans only come with a few years warranty whereas the new ones come with a lifetime warranty.  With the cheaper parts on all the china models available I would personally spend the extra money for the new one.

If you want American made you have to buy the tuff stuff starter.
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: HP2 on June 24, 2021, 10:38:13 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on June 24, 2021, 06:37:42 AM
I agree, I actuallly used a starter out of a Dakota for my 472 Hemi that I bought for $15 from PicNPull. It lasted much longer than anything shiny from China.

Hadn't thought about that. Then you have a shot at a genuine Mopar Mexican unit.
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: Plange on June 24, 2021, 11:15:50 AM
I agree with the Nippondenso style starter comments. Both the Tuff Stuff or the Dodge Ram starter are Nippondenso design based and are great starters, they typically are around 1.4-1.8kw of power, are easy to rebuilt, the drives are readily available as are the solenoid contacts.
I used to work for Delco Remy in the rotating electrical division and by far these are my favorite style of starter.
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: Flatdad on June 24, 2021, 12:45:12 PM
I'm rocking a '97 Ram starter on my 528.

On newer big bore Mega-Blocks with expanded water jackets, a 60's-70's era starter won't fit but the 90's truck v8 starters do.
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: Chryco Psycho on June 24, 2021, 10:04:39 PM
Exactly what I do , grab V8 starters from the wreckers for $25 , replace the terminals under the 3 bolt cap & it is as good as new .
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: rdf on July 01, 2021, 04:57:40 AM
Awesome!  Thank you everyone for the advice!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: 7E-Bodies on July 01, 2021, 06:34:51 AM
Mine is a 440 as well. Its original starter long since sacrificed as a core, I guess I'm lucky to have one stamped as a 73. I just had it tested at the local family owned starter/alternator shop yesterday. Tested good. I left it with them to tear it down anyway as they make them look new. As a purist, I wanted date correct, but after being asked $600 for a "possibly rebuildable core" I figured I'd roll with what I had. If anyone sees it and says anything, I guess I'll politely ask them to get away from my car, lol. In the meantime, I'll continue to look for one dated prior to 69 November.
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: HP2 on July 03, 2021, 09:31:23 AM
There are a variety of options out there to be pursued.
Title: Re: Which starter should I get?
Post by: Huskidrive on July 03, 2021, 10:01:10 AM
I just bought a mini starter from Mancini. Spins the engine like magic....I just have to get used to the "new" sound......