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Technical Shop => Exhaust => Topic started by: FSHTAIL on February 01, 2022, 01:02:19 PM

Title: Header bolts, has anyone seen something like this for small blocks?
Post by: FSHTAIL on February 01, 2022, 01:02:19 PM
So I'm looking around for some header bolts, the stock ones are kind of ridiculous in regards to clearance around my hooker Pro Comp headers, I lost two of the damn bolts in the floor drain. 

Has anyone seen anything like this that will fit the small block?

I can't seem to find anything. 
I don't have the car near me to grab a bolt and measure it, but I believe the ones pictured are larger for say, maybe the big block?

I'm not 100% certain on the size I need, I also don't trust these drop-down menus saying that it will fit your car
Title: Re: Header bolts, has anyone seen something like this for small blocks?
Post by: 7212Mopar on February 01, 2022, 06:53:52 PM
I use stage 8 locking fastener for headers. Summit has them and they also carry their own version that locks differently. Made out of stainless steel. On for two years now and never get loose. No leaks.
Title: Re: Header bolts, has anyone seen something like this for small blocks?
Post by: anlauto on February 01, 2022, 07:04:37 PM
Those are cool, but what motor take 7/8" header bolts  :rubeyes:  That's a LARGE bolt  :o
Title: Re: Header bolts, has anyone seen something like this for small blocks?
Post by: FSHTAIL on February 02, 2022, 02:48:18 AM
Quote from: 7212Mopar on February 01, 2022, 06:53:52 PM
I use stage 8 locking fastener for headers. Summit has them and they also carry their own version that locks differently. Made out of stainless steel. On for two years now and never get loose. No leaks.

Wouldn't stainless bolts into cast iron cause an issue eventually?
Title: Re: Header bolts, has anyone seen something like this for small blocks?
Post by: FSHTAIL on February 02, 2022, 02:52:12 AM
Quote from: anlauto on February 01, 2022, 07:04:37 PM
Those are cool, but what motor take 7/8" header bolts  :rubeyes:  That's a LARGE bolt  :o

That's the length of them
Title: Re: Header bolts, has anyone seen something like this for small blocks?
Post by: anlauto on February 02, 2022, 05:21:20 AM
Quote from: FSHTAIL on February 02, 2022, 02:52:12 AM
Quote from: anlauto on February 01, 2022, 07:04:37 PM
Those are cool, but what motor take 7/8" header bolts  :rubeyes:  That's a LARGE bolt  :o

That's the length of them

Odd way to advertise them :drunk: ...Are they 5/16 thread ? Would that not work for a Mopar ?
Title: Re: Header bolts, has anyone seen something like this for small blocks?
Post by: Bullitt- on February 02, 2022, 05:48:07 AM
Quote from: FSHTAIL on February 02, 2022, 02:48:18 AM
Quote from: 7212Mopar on February 01, 2022, 06:53:52 PM
I use stage 8 locking fastener for headers. Summit has them and they also carry their own version that locks differently. Made out of stainless steel. On for two years now and never get loose. No leaks.

Wouldn't stainless bolts into cast iron cause an issue eventually?

I had heard of issues but didn't know the specifics ... Folks here really run down SS hardware
https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/stainless-steel-fastener-anything-aware-251420/
Title: Re: Header bolts, has anyone seen something like this for small blocks?
Post by: gzig5 on February 02, 2022, 07:01:05 AM
Stainless fasteners are significantly weaker than carbon steel bolts in my experience. You are way more likely to spin the tool on the head or shear the bolt if it sticks.  If clearance were an issue I would use a grade 8 cap screw, no reason to mess with the external hex head.  That design in the picture is neither fish nor fowl.
https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/75521088

Local hardware or farm store should have them, or order online.
Title: Re: Header bolts, has anyone seen something like this for small blocks?
Post by: 70vert on February 02, 2022, 07:31:53 AM
Quote from: gzig5 on February 02, 2022, 07:01:05 AM
Stainless fasteners are significantly weaker than carbon steel bolts in my experience. You are way more likely to spin the tool on the head or shear the bolt if it sticks.  If clearance were an issue I would use a grade 8 cap screw, no reason to mess with the external hex head.  That design in the picture is neither fish nor fowl.
https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/75521088

Local hardware or farm store should have them, or order online.

Wow, $26 for 100! Maybe set up a "group buy", I'd get a set just to have around (:
Title: Re: Header bolts, has anyone seen something like this for small blocks?
Post by: 7212Mopar on February 02, 2022, 08:04:14 AM
Quote from: FSHTAIL on February 02, 2022, 02:48:18 AM
Quote from: 7212Mopar on February 01, 2022, 06:53:52 PM
I use stage 8 locking fastener for headers. Summit has them and they also carry their own version that locks differently. Made out of stainless steel. On for two years now and never get loose. No leaks.

Wouldn't stainless bolts into cast iron cause an issue eventually?

I am running after market aluminum heads that comes with SS thread insert. To repair thread damage in steel or CI, SS thread insert is used all the time right? Steel and CI can rust together too, especially threads exposed to coolant in the factory heads. May be use anti-seize compound on the threads.
Title: Re: Header bolts, has anyone seen something like this for small blocks?
Post by: HP2 on February 03, 2022, 06:24:29 PM
Liberal use of black moly paste on stinless fasteners during installation will prevent them from seizing in carbon steel.