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Title: My seat project...
Post by: Cudajason on June 24, 2017, 08:54:15 AM
Well one of many it seems.


Picked these bad boys up today at the local wrecker.

Thanks to @Brads70 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/brads70_12) for the inspiration.

Now I just have to figure out how to mount them!  I may try using the facotry seat brakets and adapting them to the seats. Not sure yet. Hopfully I will have them in over the summer.

Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Cuda Cody on June 24, 2017, 09:08:24 AM
Those look pretty comfy.   :)
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: blown motor on June 24, 2017, 10:33:04 AM
She's going to want those in her truck Jason!
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: jimynick on June 24, 2017, 07:36:14 PM
Nice seats Jas. One question- what will you do about the seat belts?
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Brads70 on June 24, 2017, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: jimynick on June 24, 2017, 07:36:14 PM
Nice seats Jas. One question- what will you do about the seat belts?

Use the stock ones and unbolt the ones on the new seats and toss them.
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Cudajason on June 25, 2017, 10:08:08 AM
Quote from: Brads70 on June 24, 2017, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: jimynick on June 24, 2017, 07:36:14 PM
Nice seats Jas. One question- what will you do about the seat belts?

Use the stock ones and unbolt the ones on the new seats and toss them.

Yep thats the plan!!

Quote from: blown motor on June 24, 2017, 10:33:04 AM
She's going to want those in her truck Jason!

Lol funny thing is I found these while I was at the wreckers becuase I had to fix the sears in the wife's truck earlier in the week. Went back yeterday to get these!  I am looking for stock drivers seat for her Ram.

Quote from: Cuda Cody on June 24, 2017, 09:08:24 AM
Those look pretty comfy.   :)

Yeah much more support than the stick 40 year old stockers.
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Brads70 on June 25, 2017, 10:57:44 AM
Might give others an idea how to build the brackets....
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=95100.0
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Cudajason on July 04, 2017, 07:19:05 AM
Quote from: Brads70 on June 25, 2017, 10:57:44 AM
Might give others an idea how to build the brackets....
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=95100.0

Thanks for linking to that post @Brads70 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/brads70_12).  Unfortunately all the pictures are now gone!  Gota love photo bucket!!!

Jason
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Brads70 on July 04, 2017, 01:20:12 PM
Quote from: Cudajason on July 04, 2017, 07:19:05 AM
Quote from: Brads70 on June 25, 2017, 10:57:44 AM
Might give others an idea how to build the brackets....
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=95100.0

Thanks for linking to that post @Brads70 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/brads70_12).  Unfortunately all the pictures are now gone!  Gotta love photo bucket!!!

Jason

That just happened? I'm just getting home from camping and they are gone? They were there when I left?  I'll see if I can find some pictures when I get some time.
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: usraptor on July 04, 2017, 02:42:50 PM
A few companies build re-location brackets for E-Bodies to do what you are trying to do.  I just ran across some this morning while doing a google search for something else.  Naturally, now I can't find the site.  :pullinghair:
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: BFM_Cuda on July 04, 2017, 04:55:08 PM
Those look like nice seats! What did they come out of?
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Cudajason on July 04, 2017, 06:25:45 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on July 04, 2017, 01:20:12 PM
Quote from: Cudajason on July 04, 2017, 07:19:05 AM
Quote from: Brads70 on June 25, 2017, 10:57:44 AM
Might give others an idea how to build the brackets....
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=95100.0

Thanks for linking to that post @Brads70 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/brads70_12).  Unfortunately all the pictures are now gone!  Gotta love photo bucket!!!

Jason


That just happened? I'm just getting home from camping and they are gone? They were there when I left?  I'll see if I can find some pictures when I get some time.

Yeah, looks like Photobucket is now charging for hosting pics...nice of them to tell everyone.

Hope you vacation was awesome!

no hurry on pics, I likely wont get around to this for a while...now that the car is back together, I think I might drive it for a bit!!!

Jason
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Cudajason on July 04, 2017, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: BFM_Cuda on July 04, 2017, 04:55:08 PM
Those look like nice seats! What did they come out of?

Thanks @BFM_Cuda (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/bfmcuda_374).  They are out of a Hyundai Tiburon.  I found both a leather...ok ok.. vinyl and cloth pair at my local wreckers. I went with the vinyl, because I liked the look better, that and when I sat in them at the wreckers, they did not seem as hot as the cloth set.

Jason
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Brads70 on July 04, 2017, 06:37:40 PM
Found these pictures.... hope it helps
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Cudajason on July 04, 2017, 07:43:38 PM
thanks man you are the best!!!   :thankyou:

@Brads70 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/brads70_12)   :ohyeah:

hey
@Cuda Cody (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cuda-cody_1), are you taking nominations for you member of the year yet???  :wave:
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: jimynick on July 04, 2017, 07:46:06 PM
Brad, you never cease to amaze me with your ability to "get'er done". Nice job, buddy! Ian
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on July 04, 2017, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on July 04, 2017, 06:37:40 PM
Found these pictures.... hope it helps

Your mounts look an awful lot like some mounts I made a few years ago...

First shot shows how I set levels from door sill to door sill since the floor on my wagon isn't the same from side to side....  Originally a bench seat car, I had to reinforce the floor, on my first mock up I didn't have the steering column in the car & I centered the buckets between the sill & the hump... Big mistake, The seat was about 2" off center to the steering column....

You need to pay attention to getting the elevation, front to rear tilt, side to side position & level plus the fore & aft location correct or you won't be happy with the install long term....

In the past I've seen to many cars where the seats were thrown in & the mounting wasn't well thought out...

If you use the OE seat brackets it takes allot of the problems out of the equation

Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Brads70 on July 05, 2017, 01:09:20 AM
I took the opportunity to move the seats back a few inches while I was at it. I can move the seat all the way back till it's touching the rear seat if I want.  I was tired of driving with my legs at a 45 degree angle LOL . Also while I never bothered with using the stock seat mounts because I wanted it moved back, the bigger issue is the space between the bottom of the steering wheel and the bottom seat section. For this reason I made my own as you need all the space you can get in this area IMO.
The 2 outside mounts are flat/at the same heights but the inside mounts are at 2 different heights.  I used the pictured button head socket head cap screws to bolt the seat to the new mounts, just drill/grind off the Hyundai mounts. I think I had to grind a slight flat spot to get them to fit in the channel. You need button heads as space is limited , otherwise it hits the track when moving the seat. I also moved/added should style belts  as it hit the outside seat belt. I'm 6'1" so I wanted/needed more leg room.
For the threaded part that bolts to the floor I used set screws with threadlocker ( drilled and tapped the weldment)   and used the stock nuts from underneath.
That's all I can remember for now... let me know if I can help when you go to install them!
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Cudajason on July 05, 2017, 05:51:12 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on July 04, 2017, 10:57:21 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on July 04, 2017, 06:37:40 PM
Found these pictures.... hope it helps

Your mounts look an awful lot like some mounts I made a few years ago...

First shot shows how I set levels from door sill to door sill since the floor on my wagon isn't the same from side to side....  Originally a bench seat car, I had to reinforce the floor, on my first mock up I didn't have the steering column in the car & I centered the buckets between the sill & the hump... Big mistake, The seat was about 2" off center to the steering column....

You need to pay attention to getting the elevation, front to rear tilt, side to side position & level plus the fore & aft location correct or you won't be happy with the install long term....

In the past I've seen to many cars where the seats were thrown in & the mounting wasn't well thought out...

If you use the OE seat brackets it takes allot of the problems out of the equation

Thanks guys,  these both give me some good ideas on how to build the mounts.

@1 Wild R/T (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/1-wild-rt_320) please share some details on the wagon...looks cool.

I initially wanted to use the stock brackets, but I think doing so will effect the operation of the seat.  These seats fold forward, handy for the kids getting into the back seat. and when you do the seats slide foreword.  I doubt that would work with the e-body seat tracks.

Jason



Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on July 05, 2017, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: Cudajason on July 05, 2017, 05:51:12 PM

@1 Wild R/T (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/1-wild-rt_320) please share some details on the wagon...looks cool.

Jason

It's not..... But it will be.... :haha:  It's a 65 Ford Falcon 2Dr wagon...I picked it up to haul my dogs around but as usual I can't leave stuff alone.....  Tons of custom tweaks from little stuff to pretty major mods....

If it were a Mopar I'd do a build thread but since it's a Ford & this is a Mopar site complete with plenty of "Mopar or No Car" types who don't know what they are missing I'll just keep it semi low key...

But I will say for a low budget deal it's amazing how easy it is to have EFI, AOD, 4 wheel discs etc all very cheap....
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Cudajason on September 09, 2019, 05:52:05 PM
Well, I am finally getting around to this project.

Car is down for a while, so while it is still warm out I figure I can get some stuff done.

Here are some pics of my mock up using some thinner steel, to adapt the factory mounting brackets to the Tiburon seats.

I have a large plate of 1/4 inch steel for my final set up once I am comfortable it will work as planed.

Any thoughts on the plan are appreciated.

Jason
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Brads70 on September 09, 2019, 05:58:23 PM
When I installed the Tiberon seats in the Challenger I bought an extra pair, I'm going to install them in the Javelin. .....might as well they are paid for and just sitting in the basement.
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Cudajason on September 10, 2019, 01:55:49 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on September 09, 2019, 05:58:23 PM
When I installed the Tiberon seats in the Challenger I bought an extra pair, I'm going to install them in the Javelin. .....might as well they are paid for and just sitting in the basement.

Rereading your original CC.com thread, I saw your comment that you bought two sets and wondered in one might end up in the Javelin.

Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Cudajason on October 06, 2019, 04:41:07 AM
Finally got a chance to pull the car out and test my mounting brackets.

Worked like a charm!!! :banana:


Thes pics the seat is mounted and bolted  into the factory locations.

The seat seems like it is a bit close to the centre console, but the stock seats seem to that way too. I may try to move the seats over a little bit, not sure.

Next step is to pull out the driver's seat and get to work on cutting the 1/4 inch brackets!!

Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Brads70 on October 06, 2019, 06:28:54 AM
Nice! You will enjoy them! I find them SOOO much more comfortable than the factory seats!
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: anlauto on October 06, 2019, 07:34:32 AM
Looks really com-fee  :worship:
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Cudajason on December 30, 2019, 05:05:18 AM
Sigh...my life has been crazy, work has kept me very occupied the last few months and I have had virtually no time to spend in the garage.

I managed ti find some time last night and got all my brackets for the seats cut out of 1/4 steel plate and all the holes drilled.

I need to clean them all up on the bench grinder, paint them and get the proper mounting hardware, but at least its progress. Felt good too!

I expect January to be crazy at work, but I hope to find some time to finish these up and start my trans swap! 

Jason
Title: Re: My next project...Better Seats!!!!
Post by: Cudajason on January 04, 2020, 06:59:09 AM
Well I decided I needed some spacers under the mounts that attach to the existing seat tracks in order to allow sliders to work properly. The bolts were catching in a few spots and not allowing the full range of motion.

I finished those up last night so now all I need to do is some finish grinding and fitting the paint them all.

Given the weather here in the great white north will not be warm enough to paint (I am just going to spray bomb them outside) I am going to put this project aside for a few months.

Jason
Title: My seat project...DONE!!!
Post by: Cudajason on April 19, 2020, 01:09:14 PM
Over the last couple of weekend I cleaned up and painted the mounting brackets I made over the winter and got my seats installed.

Not sure I like them yet...the seam to sit a little higher then I expected, but I will see what its like once I get to take a spin!

At least I have one project ticked off the list!

Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Brads70 on April 19, 2020, 01:17:45 PM
Looks great! You will enjoy them, nice upgrade from the stock seats!  :bravo:
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Cudajason on April 19, 2020, 03:41:12 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on April 19, 2020, 01:17:45 PM
Looks great! You will enjoy them, nice upgrade from the stock seats!  :bravo:

Thanks man.  i am sure I will, just have to get it all back together and go for a spin!!!
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: blown motor on April 19, 2020, 03:51:31 PM
Who's that guy sticking his head out from the cupboards over in the corner?  :rofl:
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: jimynick on April 19, 2020, 08:59:22 PM
Congrats! Those look great Jas!  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: My next project...
Post by: Chryco Psycho on April 19, 2020, 09:48:14 PM
Nice upgrade ! :bigthumb:
Title: Re: My seat project...
Post by: Scooter on April 20, 2020, 08:02:13 AM
Looks solid! How about a photo with someone sitting in them? Curious about the height, have a set of 08 Challenger buckets in mine and it's lucky I'm not ant taller. 
Title: Re: My seat project...
Post by: JunkYardFind on May 14, 2021, 07:57:59 PM
@Cudajason (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cudajason_260)
Finally scored a pair of Tiburon seats  :banana:
Sent you an IM regarding purchasing the mounts you fabricated. Let me know if you are interested.
Thanks