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Technical Shop => Wheels, Tires, Brakes, Suspension & Steering => Topic started by: Ccuda on March 24, 2022, 07:40:20 AM

Title: AAR Stance
Post by: Ccuda on March 24, 2022, 07:40:20 AM
My AAR is sitting to level for my liking. I used the equivalent tire size for radial conversion and the wheels are the correct size.
Would it be wise to have my mechanic tom adjust the torsion bars or would it be smarter to add air shocks?
Tire and wheel change in the front is out of the question since I just bought the tires.
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: JS29 on March 24, 2022, 07:57:29 AM
@Ccuda (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/ccuda_11469)  Air shocks are NEVER a good idea for an E-Body!! Time for rear springs.   :alan2cents:
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: anlauto on March 24, 2022, 07:58:28 AM
I would guess it would depend on how "high" the car is now. If you can afford to drop the front, I would go that route.

Adding air shocks is never a smarter choice :alan2cents: Re-arch the rear leaf springs if anything... :brainiac:
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: blown motor on March 24, 2022, 08:33:35 AM
I agree with having the springs re-arched. I did it in my Challenger. Post up a pic so we can see what it looks like.
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: Ccuda on March 25, 2022, 09:15:09 AM
Here's a pic of my present stance. Think the rear needs to be a bit higher
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: DeathProofCuda on March 25, 2022, 09:49:26 AM
255/60/15 on the rear?  Is the top of the rear wheel arch above the top of the tire?  IMHO it looks good as is, but if you want to raise the rear then I agree that new springs are the way to go. :alan2cents:
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: headejm on March 25, 2022, 10:25:46 AM
First off, nice garage and beautiful AAR! It's your car so you get to do whatever you want to it.

IMO, the look of the AARs and TAs should be lower (compared to a higher rear end look of drag racing cars) due to their road racing heritage. What are the measurements from the ground to the fender lips? I like the 25" look in the front and maybe 1" higher in the rear. The stance of your car looks pretty good to me. No to air shocks.
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: anlauto on March 25, 2022, 10:29:32 AM
Quote from: Ccuda on March 25, 2022, 09:15:09 AM
Here's a pic of my present stance. Think the rear needs to be a bit higher

Beautiful AAR, nicely optioned, but based on that picture, I disagree....I think the front should be lower...At the rear, the top of the tire looks equal to the top of the wheel opening, the front should look the same in my opinion  :alan2cents:
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: Bullitt- on March 25, 2022, 11:05:38 AM
I googled pictures "AAR Cuda Side" ... Yours looks very much like most I saw.

(https://www.classicdriver.com/sites/default/files/styles/flexslider_full/public/cars_images/feed_787123/6bdd04ac621a5d14291db0716fc74cc273049ea2.jpg)
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: 6bblgt on March 25, 2022, 11:18:38 AM
Quote from: anlauto on March 25, 2022, 10:29:32 AM
Beautiful AAR, nicely optioned, but based on that picture, I disagree....I think the front should be lower...At the rear, the top of the tire looks equal to the top of the wheel opening, the front should look the same in my opinion  :alan2cents:

:iagree: lower in the front (looks pretty level currently)  :takealook:
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: Brads70 on March 25, 2022, 12:46:30 PM
Quote from: anlauto on March 25, 2022, 10:29:32 AM
Quote from: Ccuda on March 25, 2022, 09:15:09 AM
Here's a pic of my present stance. Think the rear needs to be a bit higher

Beautiful AAR, nicely optioned, but based on that picture, I disagree....I think the front should be lower...At the rear, the top of the tire looks equal to the top of the wheel opening, the front should look the same in my opinion  :alan2cents:

:iagree: adjust the torsion bars lower. Don't forget to get the front end aligned after adjustments.
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: anlauto on March 25, 2022, 05:20:09 PM
What size rear tire did you buy ?
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: Ccuda on March 25, 2022, 06:11:36 PM
Anlaito
245-60-15 Rear
225-60-15 Front

Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: anlauto on March 25, 2022, 06:24:58 PM
Quote from: Ccuda on March 25, 2022, 06:11:36 PM
Anlaito
245-60-15 Rear
225-60-15 Front

That's the right size tires :bigthumb: so I guess it boils down to your personal preference  :dunno:

In my opinion, the relation between the top of the tire and the top of the wheel opening should be the same front to rear on a Cuda
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: blown motor on March 25, 2022, 06:27:50 PM
7/8" rake is perfect. The last one posted has too much rake IMHO. It looks very day 2. If that's what you want, go for it.
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: headejm on March 25, 2022, 10:36:47 PM
Quote from: Ccuda on March 25, 2022, 04:55:14 PM
Thanks guys for all your inputs. I measured to the front wheel lip and it's 25" on the nose. The rear measures 25 7/8"

Looks perfect to me!  :cheers:
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: jyotkc on January 17, 2023, 01:29:47 PM
Would lowering the front mess up the alignment? Unless you had adjustable control arms
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: anlauto on January 17, 2023, 03:30:48 PM
Quote from: jyotkc on January 17, 2023, 01:29:47 PM
Would lowering the front mess up the alignment? Unless you had adjustable control arms

Any adjustment up or down of the front end affects the alignment  :alan2cents:
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: AAR#2 on January 18, 2023, 04:33:27 AM
Quote from: Ccuda on March 25, 2022, 04:55:14 PM
Thanks guys for all your inputs. I measured to the front wheel lip and it's 25" on the nose. The rear measures 25 7/8"
Maybe I'm looking at the car too much or the eyes like all the rest of the old body are starting to fail.
I'm posting one of the most extensive restoration AARs in existence and it sure looks to me to be a lot more of a rake than mine. It's on the YouTube and a fellows named Lew Bisbing. I've judged for over 30 years at different organizations and shows and this car is the epitome of craftsmanship and research.

Appreciate the kind words, and while I too love this picture it was taken at first startup and the front ride height/alignment was not yet completed. Once set to factory specs the front was raised a bit as you see in the attached photo.
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: headejm on January 18, 2023, 12:04:32 PM
 :1place:
Title: Re: AAR Stance
Post by: RUNCHARGER on January 18, 2023, 04:32:48 PM
Well: I don't think that could look any better!