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Technical Shop => Engine, Transmission & Rear End => Topic started by: 7E-Bodies on April 27, 2022, 01:35:56 PM

Title: 8-3/4 Axle Seal Question
Post by: 7E-Bodies on April 27, 2022, 01:35:56 PM
Replacing the axle seals in my 70 8-3/4 and noticed this either rough machining or damage and really want to be certain before tapping in the new seals on that surface. Will it cause leaking? Suggestions appreciated. The area circled is actually the top of the housing.
Title: Re: 8-3/4 Axle Seal Question
Post by: jimynick on April 27, 2022, 07:16:35 PM
Most of the sealing is done by the inner seals and since that's actually on the top, I'd give the new seal a skin of Right Stuff and put 'er in. Just my  :alan2cents:
Title: Re: 8-3/4 Axle Seal Question
Post by: MoparLeo on April 27, 2022, 08:02:52 PM
An 8 3/4" Rear axle actually has 2 seals.
The inner seal is an oil seal for the differential fluid.
The outer seal is a grease seal for the tapered axle bearings and they must be manually repacked with grease regularly to be serviced properly. font]
Title: Re: 8-3/4 Axle Seal Question
Post by: dodj on April 28, 2022, 04:03:01 AM
Quote from: MoparLeo on April 27, 2022, 08:02:52 PM
tapered axle bearings and they must be manually repacked with grease regularly to be serviced properly. font]
I must have drove my car for 10 years before I realized this. :o
How often do you figure repacking is required?
Title: Re: 8-3/4 Axle Seal Question
Post by: 7212Mopar on April 28, 2022, 12:53:33 PM
I think it really depends on how much driving you do and if it is leaking. Likely change diff oil more often than repack the bearings with new grease. I recall from the mechanic I used to work with in HS, he repack the front bearings on every brake pad replacement job he did. That was in the early 80s where these cars were prevalent.
Title: Re: 8-3/4 Axle Seal Question
Post by: Bullitt- on April 28, 2022, 08:27:05 PM
Quote from: dodj on April 28, 2022, 04:03:01 AM
Quote from: MoparLeo on April 27, 2022, 08:02:52 PM
tapered axle bearings and they must be manually repacked with grease regularly to be serviced properly. font]
I must have drove my car for 10 years before I realized this. :o
How often do you figure repacking is required?
You got my curiosity up so I went to my '73 Factory Service Manual... In the first section, Lubrication & Maintenance on the last page in the last section they list "Parts Requiring No Lubrication". Among them, Rear Axle Bearings.  In section 3, Rear Axle, they state bearings only need to be repacked if the seal needs to be replaced.
   I'd say If you have already serviced the bearings don't worry about them until there is some reason to go into the axle.  :alan2cents:   
Title: Re: 8-3/4 Axle Seal Question
Post by: dodj on April 29, 2022, 03:37:26 AM
Quote from: Bullitt- on April 28, 2022, 08:27:05 PM
   I'd say If you have already serviced the bearings don't worry about them until there is some reason to go into the axle.  :alan2cents:
:bigthumb: I can do that.
Last I did it was a couple years ago when replacing the differential.
Title: Re: 8-3/4 Axle Seal Question
Post by: MoparLeo on April 29, 2022, 10:44:13 PM
The point is and the fact is that 90% of the people who own an 8 3/4 or 9 3/4' differential have probably NEVER serviced the rear axle bearings.
Front wheel bearings saw regular servicing because they were removed anytime the front drums were removed.
The rear drums were not mounted to a hub so the bearings were never even seen.. If you are removing the axle to replace the inner seal, why wouldn't you inspect the rear bearing since it is going to be out already ??
If you repack the rear bearings what does it cost you besides a little time ?
The Service Manual states that anytime the axles are removed, the inner seal and outer gaskets MUST be replaced.
This is the only good time you will be cleaning and inspecting the bearings for wear or contamination.
Or you can wait to be reminded when you hear a noise .....
Being cheap can be very expensive..
Isn't it better to wash and wax your car more often than it really needs it than to wait too long..?