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Technical Shop => Wheels, Tires, Brakes, Suspension & Steering => Topic started by: MOPAR MITCH on June 30, 2017, 11:11:10 PM

Title: FIRM FEEL NEEDLE BEARING IDLER ARM KIT INSTALL
Post by: MOPAR MITCH on June 30, 2017, 11:11:10 PM
Has anyone installed this Firm Feel needle bearing idler arm kit?   I'm attempting to grind my new Moog K7014 long (c-body, aka "fast ratio" idler ar, so to get the rubber guts out, but I'm not getting anywhere... by grinding the ID.   Should I be grinding the sides of the arm down, say, about 3/16"-1/4"?     I have my recently welded kframe on a bench now, so, I'd like to install the idler arm and sway bar all as one-unit.

T/Anks ahead for any replies (I tried calling FF today but they were too busy to talk in detail with my own limited time.)

Mopar Mitch
Challenger T/A
Chicago area
Title: Re: FIRM FEEL NEEDLE BEARING IDLER ARM KIT INSTALL
Post by: Chryco Psycho on July 01, 2017, 05:59:47 AM
Pictures ??
Title: Re: FIRM FEEL NEEDLE BEARING IDLER ARM KIT INSTALL
Post by: Cuda Cody on July 01, 2017, 07:36:24 AM
Dick Ross (Firm Feel owner) is a friend and live only a few miles from my place.  Do you have a photo of the issue so I can show him next time I see him?
Title: Re: FIRM FEEL NEEDLE BEARING IDLER ARM KIT INSTALL
Post by: 61K T/A on July 01, 2017, 08:15:34 AM
No instructions with the kit?
Title: Re: FIRM FEEL NEEDLE BEARING IDLER ARM KIT INSTALL
Post by: MOPAR MITCH on July 01, 2017, 09:30:10 AM
T/Anks guys.... the kit has instructions but they're not clear where to grind... top ID outwards... or top OD downwards.

http://firmfeel.com/img/old/idlerkitIIinstructions.jpg

I'm gonna try FF again now... maybe they'll answer if avlbl.   I'll let you know of the outcome.
Title: Re: FIRM FEEL NEEDLE BEARING IDLER ARM KIT INSTALL
Post by: Katfish on July 01, 2017, 01:49:01 PM
Gotta ask, what's the benefits of this?
Title: Re: FIRM FEEL NEEDLE BEARING IDLER ARM KIT INSTALL
Post by: autoxcuda on July 01, 2017, 01:49:03 PM
I thought Mopar Action Rich Eherenburg did an install artical on this kit. That might shed some more light on he install.
Title: Re: FIRM FEEL NEEDLE BEARING IDLER ARM KIT INSTALL
Post by: JS29 on July 01, 2017, 02:05:37 PM
 :thinking: I wonder if if youtube or gogle would have the information you need?   
Title: Re: FIRM FEEL NEEDLE BEARING IDLER ARM KIT INSTALL
Post by: Chryco Psycho on July 01, 2017, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: Katfish on July 01, 2017, 01:49:01 PM
Gotta ask, what's the benefits of this?
Given the bushing in the idler I would assume this would eliminate any flex making the steering more precise
Title: Re: FIRM FEEL NEEDLE BEARING IDLER ARM KIT INSTALL
Post by: MOPAR MITCH on July 02, 2017, 09:18:30 AM
His article didn't show anymore detail than the instruction... precision steering is more-so enhanced... I'm always looking for the nth degree of improvement.   Still no answer from FF (closed yesterday/Sat).