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Current lease is up, and just "inherited" another vehicle so am freed up to buy myself a new 2023 Challenger - plus going to see if I can use my company program to get a good deal.

Cant find anything on the lot that is exactly what I want, but cant decide exactly what I want wither so looking for opinions on what you all would lean towards and why? 

Thinking in terms of historical significance like the e-bodies, what would be cool to have 50 years from now?  I know it is not an investment, just fun and hopefully something cool my kids will have when I am gone.....

Looking at a Hellcat Jailbreak; As for options I am not too particular as there are not that many, but cant decide the following:

Standard or wide body (leaning towards standard - feels more old school to me but would be nice to have wider wheels)

So far decided on Go Mango with black roof / hood BUT....
Also considering B5 Blue, Sinamon Stick, or Sublime, all with black roof / hood.

Not really up on the plethora of Hellcat options available. I do think the future value will increase though being the last of the line in spite of lots of people buying them with that in mind. I like Orange Challengers and I don't think you could go wrong with that one in the photo! Old version here for reference.

Quote from: RUNCHARGER on October 13, 2023, 12:58:08 PM
Not really up on the plethora of Hellcat options available. I do think the future value will increase though being the last of the line in spite of lots of people buying them with that in mind. I like Orange Challengers and I don't think you could go wrong with that one in the photo! Old version here for reference.

Great looking car!  now that I think about it, for the money maybe another e-body makes more sense!  But I need a "daily" driver

The way I look at it if you can have a daily driver that comes close or even maintains it's value you've got a winner. My wife's Honda S2000 was a winner, her Mercedes SLK is a loser. Trouble is if you put too many miles on it that can effect the value of course.  You won't get another chance though. Darn near talking myself into one of them!

Quote from: RUNCHARGER on October 13, 2023, 02:32:40 PM
The way I look at it if you can have a daily driver that comes close or even maintains it's value you've got a winner. My wife's Honda S2000 was a winner, her Mercedes SLK is a loser. Trouble is if you put too many miles on it that can effect the value of course.  You won't get another chance though. Darn near talking myself into one of them!

My thought about last chance is what's driving the decision, and I have another car to drive, so "daily driver" is a little exaggerated.... just thinking in terms of "if I had known then" in regards to the ebodies what would I have bought - so making the decision impossible

Well the only thing I have to offer is color advice.

Sinamon Stick... all day
Here's my '21.  I couldn't afford anything pricier than a 5.7 but I had to get the Shaker hood.  Had a job out on the El Mirage salt flats so I got to ring it out.. it was awesome
I would totally dig this with a Hellcat and I gotta say Widebody.  But you do you as the kids say..

I have a 2016 B5 SRT, love it, not a daily driver though, but my grown sons do when they need to borrow a car.    :twothumbsup:

Ton`s of new Challengers out there so pretty tough to stand out among them and IMO the "Special Editions" are just gimmicky tape stripes and badges. I would just find one with the colors/options YOU like, drive and enjoy it and not worry about it`s collector value or historical significance.

Gotta say when looking to buy the wife one back in 2021, the wide body just looked really good.  This is hers at the lot when we bought it.

Love the photos and comments!  Man, they do look good with a modern twist.  I am leaning towards cinnamon stick, going today to scope out what I can get mt hands on without getting price gouged.  Agree on the last call cars, I think those will be gimmicks no one will care about.

Definitely going to get what I want and enjoy it, I just think it is interesting to put the if "we would have known" twist into the mix.....

Ultimately I don't see the need for a redeye, not much in the way of performance gain for the money for me

Want to stand out in the overcrowded Challenger market?
Get a T/A.

You are running out of time to shop. No more very soon so your choices will get more limited.;
:thinking: Get what you like and let history decide how good your taste was.

Yep, had/have two of them, loved them both.  First one was in Scat Pack in Billet Silver, because the didn't make B5 Blue that year.  Second one was a TA in B5 Blue,  still have that one.  My recommendation is to make sure you get the Dynamics package, with the 6 Piston Brembo brakes and Hellcat Wheels/tires, it was only $2,200 when I got my Silver Scat Pack which was several years ago. 

If your looking for an opinion, I like the hellcat wide body in triple black.
It's beautiful and timeless.

First thanks to all for posting pics - have to say B5 Blue looks damn good! 

I did not have much success however as the 2 dealerships I went to want up to $25K in dealer markup for nothing other than greed, and I cannot bring myself to pony up a "highway robbery" fee regardless of whether I can or not.

The search continues, been contacting some dealers that are a bit further away from SoCal to see if that makes any difference...

Here's what my friend just bought in August.  23 Scat Pack 6-speed.  I wasn't sold on the wide bodies when they came out but they've grown on me.  I don't think I'd want to own a non-wide body now that I've seen this one.  I rarely ever see a wide body around these parts.  Going to a Mopar show makes you think that they are everywhere but in reality I think the wide body is a somewhat rare option.

I'm pretty sure this one is going to get lowered a little.  There is way too much space above the tires for his liking.

Quote from: 70_440-6Cuda on October 18, 2023, 08:29:34 AM
First thanks to all for posting pics - have to say B5 Blue looks damn good! 

I did not have much success however as the 2 dealerships I went to want up to $25K in dealer markup for nothing other than greed, and I cannot bring myself to pony up a "highway robbery" fee regardless of whether I can or not.

The search continues, been contacting some dealers that are a bit further away from SoCal to see if that makes any difference...

B5 blue seems to be one of those colors that looks good in any lighting situation. B5 doesn't really show the dirt either.
I can understand your pain about the dealer markups. They know this is the last model year, so they are taking advantage of that with the higher end trims. A case in point, my local dealer got one of the 330 Black Ghost additions. They started with 100K over sticker price, but lowered it to 65K over because nobody bit. 

https://www.tatedodgechryslerjeep.net/new/Dodge/2023-Dodge-Challenger-c3ad216b0a0e0a9410ae358d27b95aa4.htm
     

I've been looking ( dreaming really...) using the online build feature.
I'm so surprised at myself but I REALLY like the F8 with a black hood demon widebody with the tan interior, brass monkey wheels and orange brembo's . My only issue is ( other than money) is it is not available in the 6 speed manual.
I never thought I would as when I was looking for my first e-body in the late 80's it seemed as though everyone was either F8 or B5 blue and I was so sick of those two colours. I do like the go mango, sublime, and sinamon stick , hard choice to make, wish I had that problem!  :yes:

Quote from: 70_440-6Cuda on October 18, 2023, 08:29:34 AM
First thanks to all for posting pics - have to say B5 Blue looks damn good! 

I did not have much success however as the 2 dealerships I went to want up to $25K in dealer markup for nothing other than greed, and I cannot bring myself to pony up a "highway robbery" fee regardless of whether I can or not.

The search continues, been contacting some dealers that are a bit further away from SoCal to see if that makes any difference...

How is the used market out there?  Several years ago my buddy got a plum crazy T/A at a GM dealer. Only had 1,700 miles on it.

@Brads70 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/brads70_12) there is an F8 challenger in my area I see every so often and it looks amazing - that was my initial thought because I had a '69 Formula S barracuda and a '69 Charger 440-6 in high school that were both dark metallic green.

At this point, I think I will be less picky about color and options, just looking for a wide body Redeye in the handful of colors mentioned in this thread.  I haven't checked the used car market, but a good thought.  Going to do some more hunting this weekend

Quote from: 70_440-6Cuda on October 23, 2023, 02:08:31 PM
just trying to avoid white, grey or black - seems like they are all that color for what is left in stock.

When dealerships order cars for their lot, they order what they think most people want. Both with color, and to a lesser extent, options. So with at least half the vehicles out there on the road being white, black, or some shade of grey, that explains what you are seeing.

Good luck with your search. I'm pulling for you here.   :bigthumb:

seems like the only color you can get on any car these days is black, white or silver / grey!  Getting closer, my sister in Nor Cal is going to the dealer in a couple days to verify what they have in stock - so far no mark ups

Any updates on your search?  Just found this thread today so I may be late to the party.  Anyway, two years ago I found a 2019 SRT with less than 5K miles from a PP.  While my '70 'Cuda is a 4-speed and I normally prefer rowing the gears, I've got to admit I really like the auto in my '19 with the paddle shifters. Lighting fast shifts. I also originally never gave the wide bodies much thought, but this one came with the WB kit, and now that I've got it, I'd never have another without it.  Love the wider tires and more aggresive rims.  Originally, I also wanted the Shaker hood to go with my '70 'Cuda but after seeing a few in person, they just didn't do it for me on the modern Challenger. Much prefer the agressive looking sport hood, (is what I guess they call it), with the scoop and two vents.  Also, really like how the Octane red really pops!  With all the power this 392 has, I can't imagine a need for a Hellcat.   :alan2cents:

I'm also considering trading my 15 for a newer Challenger but I would go for a slightly used one if I could find the right one. An SXT is all I'm after. It has lots of power for daily driving with a lower purchase price and better gas mileage. I think going forward that good used ones will become harder to find because I think the people that have them will keep them with not be able to get a newer one.

Hey Murray, There is a B5 blue T/A on the lot here in town. It looks fantastic!

In 2015, I had to go with the B5 color.
Terry W.

Quote from: blown motor on November 25, 2023, 06:41:23 AMI'm also considering trading my 15 for a newer Challenger but I would go for a slightly used one if I could find the right one. An SXT is all I'm after. It has lots of power for daily driving with a lower purchase price and better gas mileage. I think going forward that good used ones will become harder to find because I think the people that have them will keep them with not be able to get a newer one.

We love our 2017 SXT Plus, not going to get rid of it anytime soon that I know of (wife might have different plans) Ours is rusting around the one rear wheel pretty good though...missed the warrantee on that one  :'(

Quote from: dodj on November 29, 2023, 04:17:02 AMHey Murray, There is a B5 blue T/A on the lot here in town. It looks fantastic!

Long ways for me to go for a test drive. Unless you know of someone who could do that for me.  :))

Quote from: anlauto on November 29, 2023, 09:30:27 AM

Quote from: blown motor on November 25, 2023, 06:41:23 AMI'm also considering trading my 15 for a newer Challenger but I would go for a slightly used one if I could find the right one. An SXT is all I'm after. It has lots of power for daily driving with a lower purchase price and better gas mileage. I think going forward that good used ones will become harder to find because I think the people that have them will keep them with not be able to get a newer one.

We love our 2017 SXT Plus, not going to get rid of it anytime soon that I know of (wife might have different plans) Ours is rusting around the one rear wheel pretty good though...missed the warrantee on that one  :'(

Can you send me a picture Alan? I haven't seen that on my 15 SXT but I don't drive it much in winter.

Quote from: blown motor on November 29, 2023, 11:12:39 AM

Quote from: dodj on November 29, 2023, 04:17:02 AMHey Murray, There is a B5 blue T/A on the lot here in town. It looks fantastic!

Long ways for me to go for a test drive. Unless you know of someone who could do that for me.  :))

But you're retired. Nothing but time on your hands......