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Technical Shop => Wheels, Tires, Brakes, Suspension & Steering => Topic started by: 7E-Bodies on October 08, 2024, 05:20:29 PM

Title: OEM Spare Tire Question
Post by: 7E-Bodies on October 08, 2024, 05:20:29 PM
Trying to stay ahead of my restoration by putting feelers out for items I'll be hunting later. My 70 Challenger RT U Code project got dragged home 6 years ago with no spare rim or tire. I do have the original jack pieces that have been meticulously restored. Thinking it'd be cool to have one set up as close as possible to the factory furnished one. I have a great powder coat guy locally, so a weathered (not bent) one would be fine. Correct date code even better. My car has an SPD of 11/4/69 for the record. Also looking to find out what tire it would have had and if Mr. Small would be able to supply one. I'll attach the portion of my build sheet depicting the spare. Apparently it a part #V3420977. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: OEM Spare Tire Question
Post by: fc7cuda on October 08, 2024, 06:14:37 PM
Looks like your car is a 14 x 5.5" Rallye wheel car, with a same size plain black spare.  The spare # by the valve stem would be the very rare #2944242 IMO.
Title: Re: OEM Spare Tire Question
Post by: 7E-Bodies on October 08, 2024, 06:25:33 PM
Quote from: fc7cuda on October 08, 2024, 06:14:37 PMLooks like your car is a 14 x 5.5" Rallye wheel car, with a same size plain black spare.  The spare # by the valve stem would be the very rare #2944242 IMO.

#3420977 according to the broadcast sheet decoder from this site. Yet I'm here to learn. Haven't dug into this at all yet.
Title: Re: OEM Spare Tire Question
Post by: 7E-Bodies on October 09, 2024, 06:35:39 PM
Anyone have one laying around?
Title: Re: OEM Spare Tire Question
Post by: fc7cuda on November 14, 2024, 05:06:59 AM
Quote from: 7E-Bodies on October 08, 2024, 06:25:33 PM
Quote from: fc7cuda on October 08, 2024, 06:14:37 PMLooks like your car is a 14 x 5.5" Rallye wheel car, with a same size plain black spare.  The spare # by the valve stem would be the very rare #2944242 IMO.

#3420977 according to the broadcast sheet decoder from this site. Yet I'm here to learn. Haven't dug into this at all yet.

Yes, this # is debatable based on survivor examples.
Title: Re: OEM Spare Tire Question
Post by: Mr Cuda on November 14, 2024, 11:45:03 AM
Does anyone have a picture of said wheel?
 I saved the spares from a couple of early LA built 70's and the lug flange is completely different than any other 68, 69, 70 wheel.
Title: Re: OEM Spare Tire Question
Post by: 7E-Bodies on November 14, 2024, 02:15:36 PM
Quote from: Mr Cuda on November 14, 2024, 11:45:03 AMDoes anyone have a picture of said wheel?
 I saved the spares from a couple of early LA built 70's and the lug flange is completely different than any other 68, 69, 70 wheel.
@Mr.Cuda I hope you get an answer. I'm curious.
Title: Re: OEM Spare Tire Question
Post by: EV2RTSE on November 14, 2024, 02:47:43 PM
There was a good thread on moparts a while back about these-

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/353985/re-70-cuda-full-size-spare-wheel-rim-size.html


Title: Re: OEM Spare Tire Question
Post by: EV2RTSE on November 14, 2024, 02:49:50 PM
A couple of pics I had saved, not mine, I think they were from that thread-
Title: Re: OEM Spare Tire Question
Post by: Skdmark on November 14, 2024, 02:53:53 PM
FWIW in references, which can be wrong.

3420977 is in the parts book (1970 to 1971) Vol2 from Jan 1972
3420977 is linked to BC Code 16 in Galen's Vol.I, Red book, 10th edition

2944236 is linked to BC Code 59 in Galen's Vol.I, Red book, 10th edition

Both are listed as 14x5.5 stamped steel, valid for B&E in 1970-1971
2944236 has the remark "6-hole". From other resources, Galen's book has a misprint on the 2944236. It should be 14x5.0 not 5.5

My May SPD 1971 Challenger with Road Wheels has "59" on the Broadcast sheet for the spare. Was confusing to try to figure out which wheel to get. In the end I found KH 14x5.5 wheel with a pentastar stamp near my date code.

From what I recall, Kelsey Hayes wheels do not have the seven digit part number stamped on them, just  Motor Wheel.
Title: Re: OEM Spare Tire Question
Post by: MoparCarGuy on November 17, 2024, 07:03:46 PM
Picture of my 1970 Cuda 340 original spare F70x14 Goodyear Polyglas Custom Wide Tread tire.
SPD is 613 (June 13, 1970). Tire was manufactured 2nd week of January 1970 at Goodyear's Jackson, Michigan Plant (https://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/2014/11/peek_through_time_jacksons_onc.html).