soooo .... a friend of mine has a project '70 Challenger SE (EDIT: NOT an SE), N code, Auto, GA4 that will be up for sale as soon as we put a $$ figure on it. I have full access to it and can take more pics or video. I know he's put a lot into it so far, but hasn't touched it in a long time and just wants it gone. 2 sets of seats front/rear. original Chrysler TA spoiler (obviously not original to this car. might be sold separately if there is interest, otherwise goes with it), 2 consoles, other parts - has a storage unit an hour and half away where he is pretty sure he has the headliner/overhead console. seemed pretty clean, looked like original quarters, drop extensions are clean, frame looked clean (although not on a lift, so no true evaluation there). floor pans seem very solid. trunk pan seems very solid. no lift, so I couldn't get a good solid look underneath. rebuilt motor/trans/rear. unsure if #s matching at this time, but will be looking soon. no build sheet (he thinks he has one, but might be for another Mopar too, so assume no)
LOTS of pics.... please advice your thoughts on price. it will be listed here/CC/FEBO first, then it will go to fleabay if no takers.
JH23:
Dodge Challenger
High
2 Door Hardtop
N1B: 383 300HP 1-4BBL 8 CYL
1971
Dodge Main, Hamtramck, MI, USA
452966: Sequence number
E65: 383 cid 4 barrel V8 300hp
D32: Heavy Duty Automatic Transmission
GA4: Light Gunmetal Poly Exterior Color
H6X9: Trim - High, Vinyl Bucket Seats, Black
000: Full Door Panels
709: Build Date: July 09
109940: Order number
V1X: Full Vinyl Top, Black
U: USA Specifications
A01: Light Package
A46: Moulding Package
C16: Console w/Woodgrain Panel
C55: Bucket Seats
G15: Tinted Windshield
H31: Rear Window Defogger
H51: Air Conditioning with Heater
L25: Trunk Lamp
L31: Hood/Fender Mounted Turn Signals
M21: Roof drip rail moldings
M31: Belt Moldings
M42: Front Stone Shield Moldings
M44: Hood and Fender Moldings
N41: Dual Exhaust
R26: AM Radio with Cassette
V7X: Accent Stripes, Black
26: 26" Radiator
EN2: End of Sales Codes
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almost there .....
if you made it this far, :happybday:
What a cool car! It would look really good next to my 70 Challenger which is also a JH N code car but with a 4 speed. I almost sold mine but decided to keep it. It was extremely rusty but I had an offer of 12k. Yours must be much higher since it doesn't have the rust issues.
$15K :alan2cents:
Nice project, love that colour! :bradsthumb: Looks pretty solid! Great start for someone. Why did he give up on it? Looks like the hard parts are done?
Quote from: Brads70 on September 30, 2017, 05:51:47 AM
Nice project, love that colour! :bradsthumb: Looks pretty solid! Great start for someone. Why did he give up on it? Looks like the hard parts are done?
it was a trade deal that soured on him after a little legal wrangling (all done now, so the future owner will have zero issues), and he has other things to use the $$ for. same guy sold his '68 or '69 Charger earlier this year to a local DJ (those in the area will know Willie B with KBPI)
Looks like it could be finished within a year, definitely get more for it done. $10-12K like it sits. :alan2cents:
One of my favorite colors. Verification of numbers matching (engine, trans, body) will make a difference in price.
I agree that matching #'s will help the price. I agree with Alan's $15k ballpark though, the colour and engine option help it a lot and it looks to be a solid Co. car. I guess A78 is a sheet only code?
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on September 30, 2017, 07:37:57 AM
I agree that matching #'s will help the price. I agree with Alan's $15k ballpark though, the colour and engine option help it a lot and it looks to be a solid Co. car. I guess A78 is a sheet only code?
I was wondering about the A78 too :thinking:
Quote from: anlauto on September 30, 2017, 08:37:00 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on September 30, 2017, 07:37:57 AM
I agree that matching #'s will help the price. I agree with Alan's $15k ballpark though, the colour and engine option help it a lot and it looks to be a solid Co. car. I guess A78 is a sheet only code?
I was wondering about the A78 too :thinking:
It's on the tag
Plug has been added.
Here it is on a tag on another car
(https://forum.e-bodies.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.moparts.org%2Fubbthreads%2Fupload2%2F4410616-a06MoprFest0128.JPG&hash=b7db3b256c8608e7838d8e15c514c9eff7ed05dd)
It would be a weird thing to "add" :huh:
Quote from: anlauto on September 30, 2017, 09:22:36 AM
It would be a weird thing to "add" :huh:
Ive seen many for sale over the years.
I've got another pic of one on the tag somewhere. Also N-code JH car...rally gauge, EL5, column shift.
Here's another one with it on the tag (he lists the tag decide): http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/57834/help-with-71-challenger-options-a78-formal-roof.html
Quote from: autoxcuda on September 30, 2017, 09:08:48 AM
Quote from: anlauto on September 30, 2017, 08:37:00 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on September 30, 2017, 07:37:57 AM
I agree that matching #'s will help the price. I agree with Alan's $15k ballpark though, the colour and engine option help it a lot and it looks to be a solid Co. car. I guess A78 is a sheet only code?
I was wondering about the A78 too :thinking:
It's on the tag
Plug has been added.
Here it is on a tag on another car
(https://forum.e-bodies.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fboard.moparts.org%2Fubbthreads%2Fupload2%2F4410616-a06MoprFest0128.JPG&hash=b7db3b256c8608e7838d8e15c514c9eff7ed05dd)
possible difference in production dates? that tag is an early '71 build, the one I posted is towards the end of the '71 production run. maybe they had stopped using it?? don't know. he said it was in the car when he got it (pre-body and paint work)
options & accessories are added and removed from cars over their 45+ years being kicked around
it has been added - not an original A78 "formal roof car
fender tag would also have C26 for the overhead console if they were original
Quote from: 6bblgt on September 30, 2017, 10:44:36 AM
options & accessories are added and removed from cars over their 45+ years being kicked around
it has been added - not an original A78 "formal roof car
fender tag would also have C26 for the overhead console if they were original
excellent info!! so it sounds like it is a standard (non-SE, non-RT) 383/auto based on the tag data
Quote from: ec_co on September 30, 2017, 10:46:38 AM
..... so it sounds like it is a standard (non-SE, non-RT) 383/auto based on the tag data
correct - roughly 1 of 412 - 1971 Challengers with 383HP 4bbl & automatic
Thanks Dan.
Winchester grey. Absolutely love the color. It's vintage yet incredibly modern.
Is he going to list the car here Ec co?
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on October 07, 2017, 09:33:25 AM
Is he going to list the car here Ec co?
It is currently available 100%, I'm just running it past a couple locals first (quick/easy) and I'll probably post the rest of the details in for sale early next week. IMO it is a good project priced nicely to move
I'm heading over there this weekend to try and verify if matching #s or not + get a video. once I get those pics, I'll put an official 'for sale' post up + it will go to craigslist (no fleabay at this time). current price before knowing if matching #s is $14k firm to my e-bodies crew (craigslist will start at $18k to account for haggling). if you like the price and matching #s isn't a concern, call me sooner 720-592-8740 - Cole. if we verify matching #s he'll want a another grand or two on top.
all parts he has will go with it, including the TA spoiler and other misc parts (some are dupes like the seats, some probably don't belong to this car like the spoiler) + his project book with pics and receipts. he says he has @ $30k into it including original cost of the vehicle.
Looks like an excellent start to a project. I didn't know not all 383 4bbl cars weren't R/Ts, interesting! In hindsight I wished I would have saved a bit more and got a more "complete" project like this one. Looks great and one of the more desirable factory colors too! Sucks he has $30k invested and is going to get only half of that back!
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Yet he is not the only one to get 1/2. I would be in that camp too as are many others....so I suspect.
I'm like this project a lot. Good luck.
Quote from: nsmall on October 13, 2017, 11:47:33 AM
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Yet he is not the only one to get 1/2. I would be in that camp too as are many others....so I suspect.
I'm like this project a lot. Good luck.
I think with an unfinished project you end up losing out more so than a finished one. I haven't done the math yet on my own project. I know I'd be out money too once done, but I have no intention of selling so it doesn't matter to me lol.
Love GA4 ... it's almost chameleon like in how it sometimes looks gray and other times looks blue.
What's with the right front corner of the car "drooping" down so low?? Torsion bar backed off or removed?? Just as long as the torsion bar socket in the crossmember isn't somehow dorked up, it looks pretty decent.
I've seen probably a dozen A78 cars & they have all had the code on the tag...
Quote from: RzeroB on October 13, 2017, 12:59:22 PM
Love GA4 ... it's almost chameleon like in how it sometimes looks gray and other times looks blue.
What's with the right front corner of the car "drooping" down so low?? Torsion bar backed off or removed?? Just as long as the torsion bar socket in the crossmember isn't somehow dorked up, it looks pretty decent.
front tires flat + torsions need to be set right. the cross member is solid. I'll get more pics this weekend + video when I can get it jacked up to get some good shots of the belly
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on October 13, 2017, 02:23:07 PM
I've seen probably a dozen A78 cars & they have all had the code on the tag...
I have no doubts, I 100% trust my peeps here that it is a standard Challenger. but IMO that makes it a better project to finish quickly since the new owner won't have to play the 'find the SE parts' game (which I understand can be a nightmare). but that also brings up a good point for the buyer - the vinyl is already in place over the SE rear window ...... so that would need to be corrected. From what it looks like to me, it needs @ $15k to finish - complete interior (needs new dash pad, restored cluster/dash frame, probable recover of the seats, headliner, etc), engine bay (wiring/hoses), suspension (8.75 rear is done, but unsure of the rest - shocks/tie rods/BJs/etc). the engine, tranny and rear were rebuilt 10 years ago and never ran.
If your crafty you can cut the top back close to the size of the window, extract the plug & glue the top down into the edge of the channel... then add trim clips & go from there...
good news, the 383 #s match .... but the 727 tranny does not. uploading the video to youtube now and will link it all together once they finish (taking forever ....). torsion cross member is rock solid, floors front/rear/trunk are all original, never replaced and rock solid. he said it was media blasted and was a pretty rock solid CO car, only had to patch a small area on one of the quarters (welded, not bondo'd). seems to be a posi rear with 3.55 gears