I recently bought a complete set of black Metro door panels, rear panels, seat backs and dash pad from Roseville. Unfortunately all of these have to now be dyed F8 green. I bought some F8 spray dye from Herb's. Has anyone successfully covered black panels to a lighter colour? Wondering if I need to use a neutral colour such as tan before spraying the green. I asked this same question to Herb but he wasn't sure. Thanks!
I dyed a black Falcon dash pad medium gray, I used SEM spray dye.. No problem, I wiped the pad down with acetone repeatedly till the surface shine had been dulled some, then left the pad dry for a coupe hours before spraying it... I dusted on probably six or seven light coats... Don't put down to much material all at one it will fill the textured grain.... I doubt F8 will give you any trouble... It's been dyed now for three years & still looks great...
:iagree: Clean is the key. Wash them with a high alkaline soap like Dawn or with the SEM soap. Acetone will work good too, but do not let it sit on there very long. Acetone is strong. Like Wild said, light coats and let them dry really good between coats. Clean panels will take F8 green pretty well. It might be a little darker when done, but if you get a scratch or chip it will be hard to see with the black underneath. White panels will look a little brighter if painted with F8, but every little scratch will show up bad. :alan2cents:
Very helpful! Thanks guys!
I agree the black will work better underneath than white would.
Herb's paint covers really well with several light coats. This is a new "black" console from Tony's Parts:
:wowzers: That looks awesome!!!! Nice job.
Quote from: anlauto on January 11, 2018, 07:20:02 PM
Herb's paint covers really well with several light coats. This is a new "black" console from Tony's Parts:
Quote from: anlauto on January 11, 2018, 07:20:02 PM
Herb's paint covers really well with several light coats. This is a new "black" console from Tony's Parts:
Hi Alan,
Is that B5 Blue & which is it as, Herb's lists (2) 1178 & 1179?
Do they ship that to Canada?
Also, did you use the Adhesion Promoter they sell?
Thanks....
That is #1178 Bright Blue.
I don't know if they ship to Canada, you would have to ask them.
I used SEM's adhesion promoter.
OMG that looks amazing! I was curious about using black as the starter color as well! Pretty cool!
:clapping:
Nice job Alan, as always. I figure the F8 will cover even better than the blue.
Cody, I also have a automatic console that is black and would like to dye. I am not familiar with Herbs paint. Is that also the name of the company
Quote from: Hotiron on January 11, 2018, 09:12:11 PM
Cody, I also have a automatic console that is black and would like to dye. I am not familiar with Herbs paint. Is that also the name of the company
here's the website:
http://www.herbsparts.com/products.asp?cat=829
like Alan said after cleaning , use the adhesion promoter! take a look at this.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjM96XqotLYAhWFQ98KHe43BlgQFghXMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.semproducts.com%2Fpublic%2Fcontent%2Ftechsheets%2FSEM%2520RAP-1%2520Training%2520Manual.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0prKKCfEUpEu_xjPv01gDV
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on January 11, 2018, 08:19:34 PM
Nice job Alan, as always. I figure the F8 will cover even better than the blue.
These were all originally black....
When I dye items I use a product call Bulldog adhesive promoter. I have found out this is the best promoter in my book
Al, those parts look very nice! Do the multiple coats of paint tend to fill in the grain in the vinyl? Do you remove the Challenger badge from the dash prior to dying the coloured dash pads? Also on your green sun roof Challenger will you also be dying new black door panels? Lots of questions I know, but I value your advice. Thanks
Quote from: anlauto on January 12, 2018, 03:57:40 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on January 11, 2018, 08:19:34 PM
Nice job Alan, as always. I figure the F8 will cover even better than the blue.
These were all originally black....
Alan I have a question about how you work indoors with all the painting you do?
I live in Ottawa so winter sucks for painting stuff in the garage.
I am currently re-doing a bunch of parts but have to do this dance between outdoor temperatures, heating garage, drying indoors etc... How do you paint indoors? do you have some type of ventilation set up?
Quote from: 750-h2 on January 12, 2018, 05:52:39 AM
Al, those parts look very nice! Do the multiple coats of paint tend to fill in the grain in the vinyl? Do you remove the Challenger badge from the dash prior to dying the coloured dash pads? Also on your green sun roof Challenger will you also be dying new black door panels? Lots of questions I know, but I value your advice. Thanks
...I don't find multiple coats fill the grain on the console or dash...it's a total of 3 maybe four light coats.
...Yes I remove the Challenger script and replace with a new chrome one from YearOne.
...Still on the fence for the interior panels. I've done the original green seat backs over already, not sure the condition of the interior panels is good enough....I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Same story with the blue interior, got new Metro fronts but need to paint the original convertible rears, but so far I can't find paint that matches so I may have to paint all four panels. :pullinghair:
Quote from: anlauto on January 12, 2018, 06:03:46 AM
Quote from: 750-h2 on January 12, 2018, 05:52:39 AM
Al, those parts look very nice! Do the multiple coats of paint tend to fill in the grain in the vinyl? Do you remove the Challenger badge from the dash prior to dying the coloured dash pads? Also on your green sun roof Challenger will you also be dying new black door panels? Lots of questions I know, but I value your advice. Thanks
...I don't find multiple coats fill the grain on the console or dash...it's a total of 3 maybe four light coats.
...Yes I remove the Challenger script and replace with a new chrome one from YearOne.
...Still on the fence for the interior panels. I've done the original green seat backs over already, not sure the condition of the interior panels is good enough....I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Same story with the blue interior, got new Metro fronts but need to paint the original convertible rears, but so far I can't find paint that matches so I may have to paint all four panels. :pullinghair:
Wow that was fast! Thanks again for your help!
I changed the color on some A-body bucket seat hinge covers. They were originally black and I sprayed them pearl white. The pearl white from Herb's just turned the black plastic silver. I ended up having to spray them with SEM white first. Then the pearl went on top of the white just fine.
Update: Today I started dying my 1970 F8 interior. I have been planning this for a while and have purchased interior dyes from Herb's as well as custom blend Dupont dyes from Dave at Performance Car Graphics. I first tried Herb's dark green metallic dye for 1969 and 1970 interiors #1198. While the dye sprayed and covered very well it is much lighter in colour than my original panels. Looks more like later years dark/medium green. I then tried Performance Car Graphics and it is much darker and matches my original panels perfectly! Performance Car Graphics supplied me with 2 pints and 1 quart of dye all F8, but with different levels of sheen and metallic depending what area of the interior is being sprayed. Very pleased with Performance Car Graphics interior paint system. Only problem with it is much more expensive than Herb's at a cost of $400.00 and that was 3 years ago so it likely went up.
Sweet!!! Glad it worked out nicely. :twothumbsup:
Thanks, Cody!
Thanks for the info 750! I always like hearing feedback on products like this.