Got an ad from Sears. Own plenty of their tools. Plus MAC and Snapon, and BluePoint,
Ah, could look at tools all day long? and never get tired of it? lol.
Does anyone else have this affliction? My sister called the other day, and wondered what I was doing! lol. I was looking at an electrical supply catalog
that I got in the mail, to see the new automotive and stereo connectors available! How retarded! Yes, sadly, it was true.
Anyone else do this? http://www.sears.com/craftsman-500-piece-mechanics-tool-set/p-00902297000P#Imagezoom
I try not to look at Crapsman tools any more since they closed our local store and the closest one is now 40 miles away. We don't even have an Ace hardware nearby.
Quote from: quapman on March 02, 2018, 03:52:19 AM
I try not to look at Crapsman tools any more since they closed our local store and the closest one is now 40 miles away. We don't even have an Ace hardware nearby.
Don't feel too bad, they closed ALL the stores here in Ontario! :headbang:
Our Sears just opened a new updated store.
I love tools. I've got enough tools to build Huge homes and enough tools to work on a fleet of trucks! Plus some antiques sitting around here and there.
Have to watch carefully if you want to buy Craftsman tools that are still Made in the USA.
Been collecting stilson and monkey wrenches.
Catalogs and online viewing for me, Lisle, Snap-on , etc.
Most of my tools are Craftsman from the old days; made in USA.
I have a mixture of Proto, Snap-on, other makes and believe it or not original Husky tools that were my first tools when I was in my teens.
Sadly, Craftsman is no longer American made, and at times I buy Harbor Freight when I need something in a hurry.
I used to go to Sears years ago and spend an hour just browsing in the tool section. Always bought the brand, and to this day still own Craftsman tool boxes.
I am always on the hunt for used American-made tools when they pop up for sale.
:wrenching:
Quote from: jimynick on March 03, 2018, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: quapman on March 02, 2018, 03:52:19 AM
I try not to look at Crapsman tools any more since they closed our local store and the closest one is now 40 miles away. We don't even have an Ace hardware nearby.
Don't feel too bad, they closed ALL the stores here in Ontario! :headbang:
IMO, the quality of craftsman tools had gone so downhill I stopped going into Sears 5 or ten years ago.
Starting looking at Proto tools again. Love Snap-on, but the price :'(
Liked this long handle ratchet that I needed to buy
Made here in USA, nice finish and reasonable price.
How is the ratchet action on that Proto? I've taken to finding used Snap-On lately.
Quote from: dodj on March 04, 2018, 06:09:38 AM
Quote from: jimynick on March 03, 2018, 09:17:55 PM
Quote from: quapman on March 02, 2018, 03:52:19 AM
I try not to look at Crapsman tools any more since they closed our local store and the closest one is now 40 miles away. We don't even have an Ace hardware nearby.
Don't feel too bad, they closed ALL the stores here in Ontario! :headbang:
IMO, the quality of craftsman tools had gone so downhill I stopped going into Sears 5 or ten years ago.
:iagree: There are other options now. Then the warranty from Sears was not what it used to be. I found Sear's in the USA is drastically different than here in Canada. MUCH more selection in the tool department. Tools not available up here, that are in the USA etc.... Now a mute point as the management ran it into the ground and they are now history here in Canada. It's a shame as they used to sell the majority of the small engine equipment around here. At one time in the 80's they had the best car battery's and tires were pretty good for the money also. That's all gone now....
I know a few people really hurt by Sears leaving , worked there for 30 plus years and lost a big chunk of their pensions/ medical benefits etc.... while Sears paid their executives millions in bonus's while the workers got zip. IMO, Too many Chief's , not enough Indians and down it went....
Sears sold Craftsman to Stanley/Black & Decker last January (2017), I think it was announced some of the manufacturing was returning to the US?
Ya just can't beet the quality of Snap-on. I love the fine tooth ratchets and the flank drive wrenches. :alan2cents:
Sears!, what is Sears?? :huh: :clueless:
Haven't been there in years for anything including their famous Kenmore brands anymore.
Seriously, places like Pepboys, Autozone ,Harbor Freight, Lowe's and Home Depot for tools and appliances are more abundant and close by just making it easier to go to and buy there instead.
Otherwise, Sears was ok.
The man cave is nothing without tools. This thread inspired me to order some more tools. Sears products can be ordered from Summit Racing. Just ordered a Craftsman 40-piece thread restorer kit and Chicago Brand Dial Calipers. :banana:
I know what happened to Sears,trying to figure out what the heck happened to Roebuck ?
Here in Canada, Canadian Tire has come out with their Professional brand and they look just like Snap-on stuff only they're an eighth of the price and they have a lifetime guarantee. The wrenches and ratchets are finished as nicely too. We've bought several sets of wrenches and sockets/ratchets and have no complaints and haven't broken one either. They don't stick out in the drawer beside the Snap-on ones as well. :cheers:
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on March 04, 2018, 09:06:44 AM
How is the ratchet action on that Proto? I've taken to finding used Snap-On lately.
Sharp and concise. I needed a ratchet to raise and lower the torsion bars with some leverage.
Very happy with the performance and looks to be good quality! :banana:
Quote from: 73440 on March 04, 2018, 02:47:10 PM
I know what happened to Sears,trying to figure out what the heck happened to Roebuck ?
Where ever it is that Roebuck went, I think Sears will be joining it there in the not too distant future ... unfortunately.
Quote from: RzeroB on March 04, 2018, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: 73440 on March 04, 2018, 02:47:10 PM
I know what happened to Sears,trying to figure out what the heck happened to Roebuck ?
Where ever it is that Roebuck went, I think Sears will be joining it there in the not too distant future ... unfortunately.
Could not stand the suspense anymore of where Roebuck went so here you go: MountainWings A MountainWings Moment
#11322 Wings Over The Mountains of Life
So What Happened to Roebuck?
====================
The thought suddenly hit me, "What happened to Roebuck of Sears
and Roebuck?" The large U.S. chain store, Sears, used to be
officially called The Sears, Roebuck and Company but it was
popularly called Sears and Roebuck. Now it's just Sears. So what
happened to Roebuck? I searched to find out and the story is
rather interesting and it's also a MountainWings Moment.
So, what happened to Roebuck?
Of the famous Sears, Roebuck & Company.
Richard Warren Sears made a deal with a watch retailer to accept
a scam consignment of watches at a lower price. He then made a
second deal with the wholesaler, netted $5000 on his first
transaction, and started the R. W. Sears Watch Company in
Chicago.
Putting an ad in the paper for a watchmaker, only one person
answered the ad - Alvah Curtis Roebuck.
And a partnership was born and in 1893 they co-founded Sears,
Roebuck and Company, including a mail-order catalog selling only
watches. Sears was 30 years old, and Roebuck 29.
Only two years later, bored with the business, Roebuck asked
Sears to buy him out for $20,000. Sears complied. His company,
and catalog, expanded. By 1897 the catalog was 500 pages and
sold everything, including houses! Retiring in 1908 due to
failing health, Sears passed away in 1914. He was only 50 years
old.
And Roebuck? He semi-retired to Florida (before air
conditioning) and used his money to finance and begin two
businesses. He also served as president of the Emerson
Typewriter Company, inventing an improved typewriter called "The
Woodstock." After financial losses in the stock market crash of
1929 he returned to Chicago.
In 1934 a Sears store manager asked him to make a public
appearance at his store. It was such a success and so many
people showed up, that the Sears, Roebuck & Company hired him to
make public appearances all over the country. He was then
employed as a corporate historian. The world was introduced to
Roebuck!
And free enterprise? Alvah Roebuck did many different things and
always seemed to do what he enjoyed. He was free to begin and
manage businesses, employ others and be employed by others. He
enjoyed a long, happy and successful life. He was able to come
back from adversity and make a great life.
HE WAS FREE TO BE WHAT HE WANTED TO BE AND DO WHAT HE WANTED TO
DO.
Once when asked about his ex-partner's great wealth as compared
to his own modest wealth, he replied, "He's dead. Me? I never
felt better." He lived until 1948 to the age of 84!
~from Jay's Free Enterprise blog~
I don't stare at tool catalogs much anymore, but I certainly have spent many hours walking through the tool section of Sears, Home Depot and Lowes to see what's available. Most times, I walk away empty handed now primarily because of all the times before where I didn't. I've not had any bad experience with Sears hand tools and sockets, but their torque wrenches have proven to be a complete waste of money despite being relative inexpensive if you catch a sale. I ended up buying one from Matco which I've been very happy with.
The biggest thing I've noticed over the last few years is the wide selection of battery powered tools. After "thinking about thinking about it" for several months, I bought one of the Milwaukee 3/8" drive M12 ratchets. It's been a huge upgrade when I've done some work out in the cold or in tight working spaces.
Quote from: jimynick on March 04, 2018, 05:04:01 PM
Here in Canada, Canadian Tire has come out with their Professional brand and they look just like Snap-on stuff only they're an eighth of the price and they have a lifetime guarantee. The wrenches and ratchets are finished as nicely too. We've bought several sets of wrenches and sockets/ratchets and have no complaints and haven't broken one either. They don't stick out in the drawer beside the Snap-on ones as well. :cheers:
My favorite store up there when we visit. Lol.
I have picked up some of the Mastercraft stuff the last few years as well. I never considered them until a friend of mine that owns an engine shop told me about them. They look decent and feel decent and if you lose one you don't have to miss coffee for a month to afford to buy a replacement.
Quote from: 340challconvert on March 04, 2018, 05:51:08 AM
Sadly, Craftsman is no longer American made, and at times I buy Harbor Freight when I need something in a hurry.
I can't speak to their entire line, but I know for certain that all their screwdrivers and adjustable wrenches are made in the USA. The plant is a few miles up the road from me.
However the plant that makes these tools was never branded as Sears or Craftsman but rather was legally known as Western Forge and they made several different brands there to include Craftsman. They are now owned by Ideal Industries and make these same tools for several different distributors still.
Quote from: jimynick on March 04, 2018, 05:04:01 PM
Here in Canada, Canadian Tire has come out with their Professional brand and they look just like Snap-on stuff only they're an eighth of the price and they have a lifetime guarantee. The wrenches and ratchets are finished as nicely too. We've bought several sets of wrenches and sockets/ratchets and have no complaints and haven't broken one either. They don't stick out in the drawer beside the Snap-on ones as well. :cheers:
Canadian tire does not make the best tools around BUT their zero hassle return policy on broken or worn out tools is so smooth and seamless. No questions asked. If they don't have it in store they will ship it to your store. I am not nice to my tools they are well used and well abused, never once have I been denied or had to fight to swap a tool.
My girlfriend at the time bought me a Craftsman socket set about 35 years ago and aside from losing one of the sockets, I still use it everyday......same with a Craftsman screw drivers....My Phillips is close to 40 years old.
However I give a huge shout-out to the wrenches from Canadian Tire....I have just about every style they offer, purchased all of them when they have crazy ass sales like 70% off of course, and paid for them with Canadian Tire money too !......never had an issue, even with the ratchet wrenches....
I use my stuff everyday and very rarely been let down by a tool breaking.....
Best advice my brother-in-law gave me......" Nothing is better then having the right tool for the right job" :worship:
I happened to be in my buddy's shop yesterday when the Snap-on man came in. I asked him what a standard length 3/8" ratchet cost these days and was floored to hear "$120-130 before the 13% tax! Jesus! The weird part, is that, if you're in the know, you're able to buy a rebuild kit from Snap-on for the ratchets for about $6 bucks and I've done so. Idiotic. :thumbdown:
In my never ending search for well made tools:
picked up this Matco (USA made) flare wrench 9/16 - 1/2 in brand new for $9.00
Nice finish and heavy duty construction.
:wrenching:
In Canada it used to be known as Simpsons Sears & as I recall Simpson died penniless living on the streets , I will have to look up that story I guess .
Flare wrenches are one of the tools you have to buy good ones , if they flex at all you will strip the nut if it is tight & has been there a while or trying to tichten stainless lines .
Found this interesting tool. :ohyeah:
Grease Cap tool
Installs the front grease cap onto the hub without denting the new (or old cap)
That's a nice piece, I ended up welding one up out of pipe a few years ago. I got tired of marking the caps and it sure works well.