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Technical Shop => Engine, Transmission & Rear End => Topic started by: Aar1064 on March 05, 2018, 01:05:54 PM

Title: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: Aar1064 on March 05, 2018, 01:05:54 PM
I'm wanting to check for vacuum leaks on my 340 six pack engine using a smoke machine. What ports need to be plugged other than:
1-manifold port
2-vacuum advance port on center carb
3-PCV port on center carb?

Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: 71-440 on March 08, 2018, 11:50:29 AM
I'm no mechanic but why plug the ports? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose? My thought would be to run your smoke with the engine running and all your vac lines working. Any leaks
would pull the smoke in.
I may be wrong here but I am sure someone will correct me if so.
Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: Cuda Cody on March 08, 2018, 12:28:35 PM
What is making you think you have a vacuum leak?  What is the vacuum pressure at idle and does it move at all?  What cam are you using?
Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: Chryco Psycho on March 26, 2018, 05:15:56 PM
 :iagree: plugging ports defeats the purpose , you want it running as is .
Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: Topcat on March 26, 2018, 06:27:21 PM
A vacuum gauge can tell you alot.

Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: JonH on March 26, 2018, 06:30:46 PM
Not a mechanic either but, when you do a smoke test, don't you introduce smoke into a system under slight pressure and watch where it escapes from? Had it done on my Ram fuel system to find a vapor leak. Option to original poster is to use an unlit propane torch around suspected vacuum leaks, with engine running. If engine speeds up, (sucking in propane) you have found your leak.
Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: Aar1064 on March 26, 2018, 06:31:17 PM
I needed to check for leaks and it turns out it was center carb base. It was slightly warped. I fixed it by disassembling, then sanding it down using a 1/4 inch thick piece of glass with 80 grit finishing with 320. All is good now.

Smoke machine really is a great tool for checking for vacuum leaks.

Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: RUNCHARGER on March 26, 2018, 07:01:53 PM
Glad to hear you found it.
Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: Aar1064 on March 26, 2018, 07:21:06 PM
I used propane but wasn't sure if engine fan was blowing the gas away so I went to carb cleaner and found leak around intake ports.

After this was resolved I wanted to try to use smoke to check for others and this is when I saw issue with base plate.
Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: Topcat on March 26, 2018, 07:26:47 PM
I used propane before.

The Benzomatic 2 can system with a pencil tip torch worked great on finding vacuum leaks.

https://www.bernzomatic.com/Products/Hand-Torches/Manual-Ignition/WK5500OX

The smoke method is a new one to me.

I haven't seen that done before. Thanks.
Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: Aar1064 on March 27, 2018, 03:17:32 AM
It was -5  :barf:. Now it's a solid -15.
Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: fc7cuda on March 27, 2018, 04:45:47 AM
Quote from: Aar1064 on March 27, 2018, 03:17:32 AM
It was -5  :barf:. Now it's a solid -15.

Yeah, that would be a problem leak, nice feeling to find and fix it.  :banana:
Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: Timbbuc2 on March 27, 2018, 10:20:44 AM
Quote from: Aar1064 on March 26, 2018, 07:21:06 PM
I used propane but wasn't sure if engine fan was blowing the gas away so I went to carb cleaner and found leak around intake ports.

After this was resolved I wanted to try to use smoke to check for others and this is when I saw issue with base plate.
Carb cleaner works very good.
Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: GoodysGotaCuda on March 27, 2018, 10:24:05 AM
I'm a fan of smoke. I'll keep any harsh chemicals I can away from my engine paint. Some brake clean can really fade and/or lift even the heartiest of paints.

I made a smoke machine out of a paint can, baby oil, a glow plug and some fittings. Works very well.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/CRCgqDkZj9XEm90N2


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Title: Re: Engine Vacuum Ports
Post by: Aar1064 on March 27, 2018, 10:42:11 AM
Thanks for posting the gauge video. In the beginning of this issue I didn't realize vacuum gauges could help with issues like this.