I looked around but didn't see anyone else post this... maybe you can just comment below with a link to said post cause I can't believe I'd be the first to see this...
Obviously I don't do this as a business but... I can see doing a "complete rotisserie, OE restoration" (as stated in the ebay ad) for under a hundred when I don't count any of my own time but how on earth do you manage that when running a business (paying employees/ self/ shop costs etc.)? Am I crazy? I mean I know it probably takes me 3 times longer than most pros to do a simple task because I'm new at it but that seems cheap. I've also been to instrument specialties and they have some restorations in progress over there that I think he said (son't quote me on this) were up over 300. What am I missing?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Barracuda-Cuda-340/163231333456?hash=item2601587c50:g:MEsAAOSwvu5biJjj&vxp=mtr (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Plymouth-Barracuda-Cuda-340/163231333456?hash=item2601587c50:g:MEsAAOSwvu5biJjj&vxp=mtr)
Yeah, If anything, I'd be less suspect of GYC's quality if they charged more in that ebay ad.
If I were to send out an e-body it would go to Alan. No question. :worship:
And it has nothing to do with me being half Canadian ;)
The car looks real solid so I don't have a problem with the $100K price tag assuming they likely bought it dirt cheap off of the original owner. :bigmoney:
One thing I get a kick out of, well two things actually...
First, setting a "hard" price BEFORE the restoration, kind of dictates the quality of the restoration, where corners will be cut to stay in budget and make a profit based on a "sold" price.... :o
Secondly, what kind of successful restoration business needs to do this type on gimmick just to get business ? :thinking:
Talk to any quality restoration shop, they have a full waiting list, they're not on eBay trying to drum up business :dunno:
With the success of the TV show, you'd think they would have the capitol to restore this car themselves, THEN try and sell it or auction if off :bigthumb:
100K? wow, that seems a bit steep. even 60K is too much considering it doesn't have the original engine and needs some body work. But then the market seems really squewed. I saw someone trying to sell a shell that looked like it was in a fire for about 15K and I doubt ANY part was usable. LOL. Maybe I need to reevalute what my car is/will be worth. $$$ LOL
Definitely bares some hard questions being asked. :wrenching: :thinking:
Quote from: tparker on September 05, 2018, 12:39:44 PM
100K? wow, that seems a bit steep. even 60K is too much considering it doesn't have the original engine and needs some body work. But then the market seems really squewed. I saw someone trying to sell a shell that looked like it was in a fire for about 15K and I doubt ANY part was usable. LOL. Maybe I need to reevalute what my car is/will be worth. $$$ LOL
I never said I thought a triple black, non-numbers 340 was worth $100K.....that would be sorta high on the open market for sure, but I agree with purchasing a car and doing a full restoration would, or could be done for $100K....not much less.
Will a 3 X TX9 340 Cuda bring six figures ? I'm not sure we're there yet, unless it was an AAR as mentioned. :alan2cents:
Yeah: Well I think I'd take the B5 440+6 with everything going for it that was advertised on this site a few months ago by a member. A little more than $100k but beautifully restored with real parts by a real enthusiast.
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on September 05, 2018, 07:16:22 PM
Yeah: Well I think I'd take the B5 440+6 with everything going for it that was advertised on this site a few months ago by a member. A little more than $100k but beautifully restored with real parts by a real enthusiast.
I am amazed that B5 440+6 has not sold yet.
Yes: It's ridiculous. That car has it all and I haven't seen a better one this year for sale. The price is low for what it is compared to these other deals that have been coming up.
With all the cars on GYC"s lot waiting to be restored and the money Mark gets for the TV show why would he waste his time doing a eBay auction.For that car to be restored by a shop that charges probably close to 100 dollars an hour a 1000 hours is 100k not counting the price of the car or the price of the parts.
I think Mark is using this for publicity, which is not a bad idea, look we are here talking about it. :alan2cents:
Don't get me wrong, I like the show from the car aspect of it and some of the information that gets passed along. But I made a vow after the first couple episodes that I saw that if I ever won the lottery, there was no way in Hell I would ever send that bunch of idiots a car for restoration. Maybe it was all yucked up for TV but I doubt it. I don't appreciate that guy's ego and don't find the show very amusing, but they wouldn't be there if it was all about the cars. They seem to be a bit saner lately but still, I can't get that bad taste out of my mouth.
So please explain to me how they were able to lower their all inclusive price (car + restoration) from the first advertised price of $100K to the now advertised price of $85K ?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1970-Plymouth-Barracuda-Cuda-340/163254999877?hash=item2602c19b45:g:MEsAAOSwvu5biJjj
Is the quality of the restoration going to be the same ?
I've seen their work close up and I wouldn't let them touch one of my cars. SO many things wrong and their info they give is about half correct.
Quote from: Lemontwist on September 14, 2018, 06:07:12 AM
I've seen their work close up and I wouldn't let them touch one of my cars. SO many things wrong and their info they give is about half correct.
But the commercial for the show says 100% OE correct!
I cant imagine how frustrating it must be for a guy like Alan to watch that show knowing all of the things they are doing incorrectly.
Quote from: Cuda_mark on September 14, 2018, 06:36:31 AM
Quote from: Lemontwist on September 14, 2018, 06:07:12 AM
I've seen their work close up and I wouldn't let them touch one of my cars. SO many things wrong and their info they give is about half correct.
But the commercial for the show says 100% OE correct!
I cant imagine how frustrating it must be for a guy like Alan to watch that show knowing all of the things they are doing incorrectly.
I would actually like to hear Alan's opinion regarding the quality of their restorations.
I know Alan already commented on the fixed price sale of the car. Budget does impact quality of the restoration. That is always the fine line when restoring a car. Alan was very careful through the restoration process with me to explain options a long the way. (And yes the various options had a direct impact on cost).
In the case of this Grave Yards Car they just reduced the price to $85k.
Question:
1) Did they just reduce their profit by $15K?
2) Did they just figure out how to cut more corners on the restoration?
On one hand it is nice to have fixed price for the resto. On the other hand the fixed price have a direct impact on the end state.
To be honest I am surprised they dropped the BIN. I see the ad more as Shop advertising than an actual car ad.
Mark recently became a contributing editor of Mopar Muscle and as such has had a front section dedicated to his words of 'wisdom'. every time I read one it sounds like the hype train pushing his ego up more.
I've seen maybe one or two whole episodes which I fast forwarded through Mark's dancing BS....and I've seen maybe a dozen scenes on YouTube...
I can not stand the show, and YES I found myself yelling at the TV for the incorrect details they were "sharing" with the world....
Personally, I don't believe I've ever seen one of their finished cars. I'm sure the quality is there, they wouldn't be in business if it wasn't....Are customers paying more or waiting longer just to have a GYC restored car.....most likely....
AS for this black Cuda on eBay just being advertising.....I say two things.....
Most, if not all, good shops are busy enough they don't need to advertise, and does dropping the price 15% really look good for a company or make them look desperate ? :dunno:
Now there selling the BH SEMA car on EBAY. What do you think it will go for?
The one that was stolen? Guess they got it back?
Quote from: MikeMikeMike on September 05, 2018, 11:30:53 AM
Yeah, If anything, I'd be less suspect of GYC's quality if they charged more in that ebay ad.
If I were to send out an e-body it would go to Alan. No question. :worship:
And it has nothing to do with me being half Canadian ;)
Which half? lol
Well into six figures I would guess https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Plymouth-Barracuda/163269726632?hash=item2603a251a8:g:A-kAAOSwCa1bpD0C
Surprised @Tony didn't sell them the correct looking rims ?
Restoration prices must be getting cheaper...the car is now $80K https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1970-Plymouth-Barracuda-Cuda-340/163298262787 I wonder if the restoration is the same quality as the $100K offering ?