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Technical Shop => Engine, Transmission & Rear End => Topic started by: tparker on January 04, 2019, 11:36:30 AM

Title: swapping to B body 8 3/4 axle
Post by: tparker on January 04, 2019, 11:36:30 AM
I got a 70 challenger originally with a 318 and 7.25 rear. I swapped a 340 in it back in 1990. So now I'm looking to swap it with a 8 3/4. I got one from a B-Body (not sure which one). It appears the challenger is wider in all measurements. Of course the perches  need to be moved. Will B Body rear ends work? Are there any issues with it being narrower?

Thanks
Tom
Title: Re: swapping to B body 8 3/4 axle
Post by: Cuda Cody on January 04, 2019, 11:44:24 AM
8 3/4" Housing widths, flange to flange

A-BODY
'66-'72= 52 5/8"
BBP 7.25/8.25 = 51.5"

B-BODY
'62-'63= 53 1/4" (And '64 Max Wedge)
'64 = 55 5/8" (Exc. Max Wedge)
'65-'67= 54 1/4"
'68-'70= 54 15/16"
'71-'74= 57 7/8"
'71-'73 wagon= 59 7/16"

C-BODY
'65-'69= 56 3/4"
'70-'71= 57 7/8" (Chrysler & Fury)
'70-'74= 59 7/16" (and '69 wagon)

IMPERIAL
'65-'66= 57"
'67-'69= 57 3/8"
'70-'71= 54 3/4"
'72-'73= 59 5/8"

E-BODY
'70-'74= 56 31/64"

A100
'65-'70= 56 3/4"

D100
'65-'71= 58 5/16"
'72-'74= 59 7/16"

F-BODY (8.25" axle!)
'76-'80= 54.34"
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8 3/4" Rear end widths, drum-to-drum:

A-BODY
'66-'72= 57 1/8" (or 57 13/16" for BBP axles and brakes)
BBP 8.25/7.25= 56 3/4"

B-BODY
'62-'63= 58 1/2" (And '64 Max Wedge)
'64 = 60 7/8" (Exc.Max Wedge)
'65-'67= 59 1/2"
'68-'70= 60 1/8"
'71-'74= 63"
'71-'73 wagon= 64 3/8"

C-BODY
'65-'69= 61.75"
'70-'71= 63.0" (Chrysler & Fury)
'70-'73= 64 3/8" (and '69 wagon)

IMPERIAL
'65-'66= 61 15/16"
'67-'69= 62 5/16"
'70-'71= 59 3/4"
'72-'73= 64 9/16"

E-BODY
'70-'74= 61 5/8"

A100
'65-'70= 61 3/4"

D100
'65-'71= 63 15/16"
'72-'74= 64 3/8"

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Spring perch widths (center-to-center)

A-BODY
'66-73= 43"

B-BODY
'62-'70= 44"
'71-'74= 47.3"

C-BODY
'65-'73= 46"

E-BODY
'70-'74= 46"

F-BODY (8.25" axle!)
'76-'80= 44.5"
Title: Re: swapping to B body 8 3/4 axle
Post by: 303 Mopar on January 04, 2019, 11:47:47 AM
A lot of people use b-body rear ends to allow for a wider wheel/tire. Just get the relocation brackets and you are all set!
Title: Re: swapping to B body 8 3/4 axle
Post by: tparker on January 04, 2019, 01:14:33 PM
@Cuda Cody (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cuda-cody_1) Thanks! I've seen similar ones. It looks like the pre '70s B-Body are narrower.

@303 Mopar (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/303-mopar_7) Thanks, Hopefully it will work. I was going to re locate the perches, but if there is a kit, that may work. I didn't realize that. I'll check it out.
Title: Re: swapping to B body 8 3/4 axle
Post by: GrandpaKevin on January 04, 2019, 02:29:34 PM
I installed a 1967 B body 8 3/4 rear end under my wifes's 1971 Challenger using Dr. Diff's offset hanger kit.
http://www.doctordiff.com/e-body-offset-spring-hanger-shackle-kit.html

It was a bolt in deal.
The only cutting was to trim a little metal off the rear valance support brackets to clear the rear spring hangers and rebend the rear sway bar if you have one.

With the extra clearance I was able to install a 15x10 wheel.
Title: Re: swapping to B body 8 3/4 axle
Post by: RUNCHARGER on January 04, 2019, 07:30:52 PM
Yes: It's a great swap actually. The Dr. Diff mounts make it easy.
Title: Re: swapping to B body 8 3/4 axle
Post by: Chryco Psycho on January 04, 2019, 08:04:42 PM
Exactly you Do not need to move the perches at all , just use the offset spring mounts & it all bolts in
This is assuming you have the earlier / narrow B body diff of course
Title: Re: swapping to B body 8 3/4 axle
Post by: tparker on January 14, 2019, 12:56:43 PM
Awesome, thanks guys