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Technical Shop => Engine, Transmission & Rear End => Topic started by: Cuda Cody on January 06, 2019, 08:58:08 AM

Title: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: Cuda Cody on January 06, 2019, 08:58:08 AM
This is a pretty rare find.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Hemi-Engine-426-Short-block-Factory-original-w-tag-crate-w-pistons-rods/183622220505

I don't think there can be many of these still around.
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: anlauto on January 06, 2019, 09:24:47 AM
At $37K I don't think the seller has to worry about it going anywhere... :alan2cents:
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: RUNCHARGER on January 06, 2019, 09:26:46 AM
Neat piece though. I think Gratiot used to sell those for $895.
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: 7212Mopar on January 06, 2019, 09:33:16 AM
That is a very expensive piece of history. I think I understand this could be important for restoring a HEMI car to have a period correct block. Mindbloggoling that something like this is still around untouched, saving for a rainy day.

I read somewhere that the newer casting is stronger and will be a better and less expensive choice installing in a non original HEMI car.
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: dodj on January 06, 2019, 12:02:23 PM
Quote from: anlauto on January 06, 2019, 09:24:47 AM
At $37K I don't think the seller has to worry about it going anywhere... :alan2cents:
This reminds me of another thread where Alan was saying you don't get much for $40K. Looks like you don't even get a running engine for that kind of money, let alone a car around it.  :o
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: Spikedog08 on January 06, 2019, 12:20:38 PM
I could use that . . Think I will bid.  Think I can get it for $300 bucks?  I mean seriously . . It's all rusted and weathered . .

:dunno:
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: Crocha617 on January 06, 2019, 12:40:08 PM
Wow I'm not sure I'd pay $3,700 for that.
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: Rich G. on January 06, 2019, 12:51:30 PM
If you look at his other auctions he has another new hemi engine . 1965 date. Someone was smart enough to make a good investment back in the day but not with the price he's asking if he never sells them. But you never know.
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: CudaMoparRay on January 06, 2019, 02:03:53 PM
Seems like you can get a period correct totally running 426 Hemi engine for a little less than that.  :clueless:
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: fc7cuda on January 06, 2019, 02:43:48 PM
Quote from: CudaMoparRay on January 06, 2019, 02:03:53 PM
Seems like you can get a period correct totally running 426 Hemi engine for a little less than that.  :clueless:

:iagree

We've seen some advertised over the years too.
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: scf100 on January 06, 2019, 02:44:44 PM
Sweet
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: Racer57 on January 06, 2019, 07:03:46 PM
Would the pistons be junk ?
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: jimynick on January 06, 2019, 07:57:25 PM
Wonder how much to rebuild the rebuild, since you surely couldn't just put heads on that rusty old POS and run it! Is there truly someone out there dumb enough to pay that kind of money for that, in the worn/rusted condition it's in? The old phrase- "a fool and his money....." comes to mind.  :looney:
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: HP_Cuda on January 07, 2019, 11:57:38 AM

Pay 37k and hope there is nothing wrong with the block. Price is insane anyway.

And you say: "but it's the in crate", and I say "it's easy to take it in and out of a crate".

A fool and his money are soon parted.
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: Dakota on January 07, 2019, 03:01:58 PM
Reminds me of this cartoon....
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: Crocha617 on January 07, 2019, 03:12:41 PM
Quote from: Racer57 on January 06, 2019, 07:03:46 PM
Would the pistons be junk ?
I would think so. I guess they might be able to be cleaned up if you could get them out of the cylinders in one piece. I would think all the bearings would be junk, rings stuck, seized up most likely....probably be a ton of work to get right again.
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: jimynick on January 07, 2019, 07:00:16 PM
 :iagree: and you know what the worst part is? This is a prime case of a hoarder clinging onto parts that he never uses himself, until they're junk and of no use to anyone else either! The old "nah, me and the boy are gonna fix 'er up one of these days" Right! sure you are, and that'll be when pigs fly.  :looney:
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: Racer57 on January 08, 2019, 06:04:54 AM
Quote from: Crocha617 on January 07, 2019, 03:12:41 PM
Quote from: Racer57 on January 06, 2019, 07:03:46 PM
Would the pistons be junk ?
I would think so. I guess they might be able to be cleaned up if you could get them out of the cylinders in one piece. I would think all the bearings would be junk, rings stuck, seized up most likely....probably be a ton of work to get right again.
Take pistons out, polish them up on buffer, mount on piece of plywood and sell OEM 426 Hemi pistons on ebay for $100 !!   :D
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: superdave on January 08, 2019, 11:21:26 AM
  ...OR for a third of the price you could buy a complete Packard Rolls Royce engine. I would imagine a Mustang to drop that into would set you back a little more than any 'Cuda out there. :bigmoney:  :rofl:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Packard-Rolls-Royce-V-1650-1-Merlin-Engine/113530616236?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D5e3fe55d062b4e96a734802200f9c739%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D14%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D401679429064%26itm%3D113530616236&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A35db84f0-1379-11e9-87f3-74dbd1804572%7Cparentrq%3A2ee085421680ab455f8f12d9fffcd8f8%7Ciid%3A1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Packard-Rolls-Royce-V-1650-1-Merlin-Engine/113530616236?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D5e3fe55d062b4e96a734802200f9c739%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D14%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D401679429064%26itm%3D113530616236&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A35db84f0-1379-11e9-87f3-74dbd1804572%7Cparentrq%3A2ee085421680ab455f8f12d9fffcd8f8%7Ciid%3A1)
Title: Re: 1970 Hemi 426 Warranty Block still in original crate!
Post by: Racer57 on January 08, 2019, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: superdave on January 08, 2019, 11:21:26 AM
  ...OR for a third of the price you could buy a complete Packard Rolls Royce engine. I would imagine a Mustang to drop that into would set you back a little more than any 'Cuda out there. :bigmoney:  :rofl:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Packard-Rolls-Royce-V-1650-1-Merlin-Engine/113530616236?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D5e3fe55d062b4e96a734802200f9c739%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D14%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D401679429064%26itm%3D113530616236&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A35db84f0-1379-11e9-87f3-74dbd1804572%7Cparentrq%3A2ee085421680ab455f8f12d9fffcd8f8%7Ciid%3A1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Packard-Rolls-Royce-V-1650-1-Merlin-Engine/113530616236?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D5e3fe55d062b4e96a734802200f9c739%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D14%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D401679429064%26itm%3D113530616236&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A35db84f0-1379-11e9-87f3-74dbd1804572%7Cparentrq%3A2ee085421680ab455f8f12d9fffcd8f8%7Ciid%3A1)

I get a woody just thinking about a Merlin in a Cuda !!    But I suspect this would apply..........  :D 
QuoteI refuse to sell this engine to anyone wishing to use it for tractor pulls. This will be clearly stated in the Bill of Sale that it is agreed the engine will not be used for that purpose. Go find something else to abuse if that is your purpose.