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Started by CudaMoparRay, October 06, 2017, 12:37:08 PM

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CudaMoparRay

Will a 1971 Plymouth Barracuda steering wheel fit on a 1967 Dodge Dart GT?

And if not what if any modifications would  have to be made if even worth going through the trouble?

Burdar

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No, it's not a direct bolt-on.  The E-bodies use a ribbed "crush can" to mount the wheel to the steering column.  The A-body wheel mounts right to the steering column.  In order to mount the E-body wheel to the A-body, you'll need to use an adapter.  Here's where it gets interesting...

In 70 or 71, the factory came out with the Tuff Wheel.  It was available on A and B bodies.  In order to mount this wheel, they used a "Tuff Wheel Adapter".  This is what you need to mount the E-body wheel to the A-body.  However, a 67 Dart steering column is smaller in diameter then the adapter.  The factory made the columns larger in 1970 when the ignition key moved from the dash to the steering column.  The adapter needs to be slightly modified in order to fit the older column.

Burdar

You might find an adapter, horn mechanism and spacer from Grant that will work but they don't really have much for Mopars.

Here is what the 69 and older steering columns look like with the Tuff Wheel Adapter on them.  Kind of ugly.  If someone made a transition piece to go from the larger adapter to the smaller column, it would look much better.


Burdar

Someone made a one-off transition piece on this Dart I saw at the Mopar Nats.  It looks really good.  I wish these were available to purchase.  Maybe something inexpensive could be made on a 3D printer?

CudaMoparRay

Quote from: Burdar on October 06, 2017, 12:52:49 PM
No, it's not a direct bolt-on.  The E-bodies use a ribbed "crush can" to mount the wheel to the steering column.  The A-body wheel mounts right to the steering column.  In order to mount the E-body wheel to the A-body, you'll need to use an adapter.  Here's where it gets interesting...

In 1971, the factory came out with the Tuff Wheel.  It was available on A and B bodies.  In order to mount this wheel, they used a "Tuff Wheel Adapter".  This is what you need to mount the E-body wheel to the A-body.  However, a 67 Dart steering column is smaller in diameter then the adapter.  The factory made the columns larger in 1970 when the ignition key moved from the dash to the steering column.  The adapter needs to be slightly modified in order to fit the older column.

Maybe something like this could work: https://www.classicindustries.com/shop/1971/plymouth/cuda/parts/?q=Tuff%20Wheel%20Adapter
Although only worth it if a person really wanted an e-body steering wheel to use.

Thanks again for your very concise and timely response.

Burdar

Not only do you need an adapter, you also need a spacer/extension.  The A-body wheel has a lot of "dish" to it.  An E-body wheel is much flatter.  You need a spacer to move the E-body wheel closer to the driver.  If you try mounting the wheel without a spacer, the wheel will hit the A-body's turn signal lever.

The factory Tuff wheel adapter uses a stock horn mechanism and horn button.  The Grant adapter(or other aftermarket adapter) uses their own horn mechanism design.  My guess is that their mechanism ONLY fits their wheels and their horn button. 


RUNCHARGER

That "transition piece" sure does look good, the fellow did a great job on that.
Sheldon