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6.1 Hemi/NAG 1 in 70 Challenger

Started by soundcontrol, March 04, 2017, 01:08:57 PM

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soundcontrol

Here is my swap. For my 1970 Challenger convertiible. I got a 6.1 Hemi with a NAG1 from a 2006 Charger. I also got the harness (but I got a new one from Hotwire), computers, shifter, gas pedal from the car. First I was gonna use my 727, but I changed my mind and went with the NAG1. I ordered most of the parts from Bouchillion, harness and programming from Hotwire Auto, gastank and pump from Tanks Inc. Here is a list of the parts I ordered.

• Milodon oil pan
• Milodon oil pickup
• Milodon Dipstick w. tube
• Griffin radiator with 2 fans
• Upper and lower radiator hoses
• TTI engine mounts
• TTI ceramic coated headers fitting Hemi/727/T-bars
• Oil filter adapter
• Oil filter short
• Fittings for AC compressor
• Power steering pump with reservoir
• Cold Air kit
• Serpentine belt
• Air Charge Sensor
• GPA-4 - High Flow Fuel Pump Module
• Fuel Tank Sending Unit
• 24" Strap Liner
• Dodge Challenger Fuel Injection Gas Tank
• Challenger Gas Tank Straps
• Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator with Gauge
• NAG1 tone ring and 2 speed sensors
• Harness Hotwire Auto


Cuda Cody

Has anyone put a total cost on what the parts cost to make a swap like this?

soundcontrol

The swap progess is slow since I got the car in 2k epoxy now and adding body reinforcements and will change the trunk floor and fix some bad patches. I got the Milodon pan on the engine though, I got the wrong oil pickup, so I cut it and reclocked it so it fitted. Next step is cleaning the block and paint it.  First pict is the wrong fit of the oil pickup (got one that fits a 2009 and up 5.7). Next pict is the fix.


soundcontrol

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Quote from: Cuda Cody on March 04, 2017, 01:11:36 PM
Has anyone put a total cost on what the parts cost to make a swap like this?

For me, (the parts I listed so far):
Bouchillion:  $3952
Tanks Inc: $680
Hotwire Auto: $2409

Correction: The Bouchillion order also has the stuff to run a 727 tranny in the price, flexplate, kickdown wire etc. I did not list those since I sold them, so take about 200 off that price.

All including shipping (US shipping, to a friend in WA who ships to me in container)

There will be some more stuff later, I'm sure. Forgot to buy sparkplugs, need AC hoses etc.

Cuda Cody

What's a donor engine go for?  Are they pretty easy to find?

Quote from: soundcontrol on March 04, 2017, 01:23:45 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on March 04, 2017, 01:11:36 PM
Has anyone put a total cost on what the parts cost to make a swap like this?

For me, (the parts I listed so far):
Bouchillion:  $3952
Tanks Inc: $680
Hotwire Auto: $2409

All including shipping (US shipping, to a friend in WA who ships to me in container)

There will be some more stuff later, I'm sure. Forgot to buy sparkplugs, need AC hoses etc.

soundcontrol

Quote from: Cuda Cody on March 04, 2017, 01:38:24 PM
What's a donor engine go for?  Are they pretty easy to find?


6.1's, 4-7000 depending on the milage, tranny etc. There is a few on e-bay. You can find a 5.7 cheaper.
I just bought a 5.7 for $2700 with harness and computer. For my next car. Thats a good deal here in Sweden.
We usually have 30-40% higher prices than you.

mauls

where did you get your oil filter adapter from?  Was it a 45 degree angle one?


303 Mopar

Quote from: mauls on June 22, 2017, 07:07:18 PM
where did you get your oil filter adapter from?  Was it a 45 degree angle one?

The filter with/without an adapter will not fit with a k-member.  If your running a tubular type, then it will fit.  @MoparDave can get you an adapter.

Chryco Psycho

Best route in not an adapter but use a block off plate & route hoses from the side of the block out to a remote filter set up

mauls

Quote from: 303 Mopar on June 22, 2017, 07:16:39 PM
Quote from: mauls on June 22, 2017, 07:07:18 PM
where did you get your oil filter adapter from?  Was it a 45 degree angle one?

The filter with/without an adapter will not fit with a k-member.  If your running a tubular type, then it will fit.  @MoparDave can get you an adapter.

Thanks, I'll probably run the factory K member at first, then as funds open up, switch to the alterkation setup.

mauls

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on June 22, 2017, 07:21:27 PM
Best route in not an adapter but use a block off plate & route hoses from the side of the block out to a remote filter set up

That might help make oil changes a breeze also


soundcontrol

Quote from: mauls on June 22, 2017, 07:07:18 PM
where did you get your oil filter adapter from?  Was it a 45 degree angle one?

Yes, a 45 degree adapter, it will fit the stock K-member with a slight mod. and a short filter.
I got it from Bouchillion.

Cudakiller70


soundcontrol

Here is the cut that needs to be made to clear the K-frame

Chryco Psycho

Quote from: soundcontrol on June 24, 2017, 02:22:14 AM
Here is the cut that needs to be made to clear the K-frame

We did the same mod believing the same mis information , we had to trim the entire lip off the adapter , the K frame still hit the filter & the filter was not removable without undoing the engine mount & lifting the engine .
Trust me this will not work , use a block off plate , if you have not cut the adapter don't just return it .

Mauls ... Please Drive a car with the Alterkation mod before converting to it