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Door Vin number Decal: Vertical or Horizontal?
« on: April 27, 2017, 07:09:36 PM »
I've seen some door Vin decals being the majority placed horizontal.

Then I have seen some vertical.

It would be interesting to see if there was a pattern when the vertical one's were done the most.

L.A. vs. Hamtrack?
Months and years on cars built with the vertical.
Challenger vs. Barracuda

There had to be some pattern when it was done this way or why. 

Linkback: https://forum.e-bodies.org/vin-fender-tag-build-sheet-and-date-codes/13/door-vin-number-decal-vertical-or-horizontal/1648/

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Re: Door Vin number Decal: Vertical or Horizontal?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2017, 07:28:27 PM »
I've wondered the same thing,  I've seen them both ways too.  I think the confusion is the engineering drawing specs it out to be vertical.  But it does makes sense for it to be that way because the numbers read horizontal.  So (this is only a guess) I'm thinking some workers said "screw it, I putting it on so it can be read".... and others might be thinking "I'm going to install it just like they told me to". 

I think this is the Factory Document on how to install it:

http://www.e-bodies.org/Resources/Engineering_Illustrations/Decal_VIN_Certification.pdf

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Re: Door Vin number Decal: Vertical or Horizontal?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2017, 07:36:27 PM »
I've wondered the same thing,  I've seen them both ways too.  I think the confusion is the engineering drawing specs it out to be vertical.  But it does makes sense for it to be that way because the numbers read horizontal.  So (this is only a guess) I'm thinking some workers said "screw it, I putting it on so it can be read".... and others might be thinking "I'm going to install it just like they told me to". 

I think this is the Factory Document on how to install it:

http://www.e-bodies.org/Resources/Engineering_Illustrations/Decal_VIN_Certification.pdf

I seen the install from the link above and then had to look a few door tags I have saved, all the E/LA cars had them vertical and the Hamtramck had then horizontal.  :idea:  Would be interesting to see others that have a bunch saved to see how the placement compares to either "B" or "E" plants.  :dunno:
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2017, 08:59:21 PM »
My last two. Ones a B plant, Others an E, this matches what Gran Coupe said. These are both factory applied.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2017, 09:39:18 PM »
If this will help your search any, my very early LA built SL6 70 Challenger, SPD Aug. 18, '69 Monday, and a possible first day of production build of #113 off the assy. line. It is located in the vertical position on the door.

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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2017, 10:30:24 PM »
Seems like LA cars go one way and the Hamtramck cars go the other way.   :thinking:

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2017, 07:22:38 AM »
I know it's not an E-body but a 71 B-body from the LA plant and it's vertical.

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2017, 07:25:55 AM »
I've never had one from Hamtramck that was vertical.  Has anyone seen a vertical one from there?
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2017, 07:36:25 AM »
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Re: Door Vin number Decal: Vertical or Horizontal?
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2017, 08:55:25 AM »
I wonder if it's a space issue? 
1970 Hamtramck built A & E-bodies are they both horizontal?
1970 LA built A, B & E-bodies are they all vertical? is the B-body door jamb too narrow to place the decal horizontally?

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2017, 09:40:09 AM »
I don't have very much experience with A or B bodies, but looking over more E-Bodies I've inspected and there does seems to be a pattern of LA = sideways, and Detroit (Hamtramck) = normal.

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Re: Door Vin number Decal: Vertical or Horizontal?
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2017, 10:37:13 AM »
When I researched this before I applied my door vin from ECS, I found that it was plant specific as you guys are stating.

LA - Vertical
Hammy - Horizontal

I'm sure they may be one offs that do not follow this rule but it could be assembly line error or maybe someone(new owner) repainted and didn't know and just applied it any way they wanted. JMHO.
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2017, 10:47:48 AM »
My Oct 69 built LA car has a vertical door sticker


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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2017, 06:47:51 PM »
When I researched this before I applied my door vin from ECS, I found that it was plant specific as you guys are stating.

LA - Vertical
Hammy - Horizontal


Intentionally done?

Perhaps it was an easy way for dealerships to easily spot it's origin when it came in for repairs or PDI?

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