WIW: Newly Rebuilt 1970 440-6 Engine with 2x3 Factory Carburetors

[70_440-6Cuda]

Hey all,

Long story short, I bought my car as a complete running driver with a '69 440 running strong with a single 4 barrel carb.  The original plan was to build it to exact original specs as much as possible with correct date codes etc.  Well, the car is not #s matching, and frankly the time and expense of that type of restoration does not seem justified.

New plan is 100% stock and correct with as much original, correct parts as possible and an engine build with a nasty cam and 500+ HP.

I had purchased a rebuilt 440 with date code as correct as I could find, but it makes more sense at this point to rebuild the engine that was in the car than tear down the new one.

Want to get an idea of what you all think the engine would be worth - details that I know are below, original cast iron intake and correct rebuilt carbs included.  Valve covers may or may not be included.

1970 440 6 pack 390hp Chrysler Mopar engine:
1.  Block has been oven cleaned (has no rust or scale), shot peened, magnafluxed and pressure tested. this block has had no damage or crack repair. block casting number is 2536480-8 date code is 10-28-68, front pad is stamped F440hp
2. Block fresh torque plate bored and moly honed, .030 over. Line honed and square decked , new cam bearings installed with new  brass freeze plugs.
3. New set of TRW forged pistons (part # l2355f-030) with a new set of speed pro rings, these pistons yield the stock 10.00:1 compression ratio.
4. the crankshaft is a forged steel standard on the rod and main journals with a fresh polish, still standard. New Clevite main and rod bearings, rods were cleaned, shot peened, magnafluxed, reconditioned, and balanced.  New set of rod bolts and locking nuts were installed. 
5.  New Elgin Camshaft (part number e327s), 375hp hydraulic lifter grind.  New Elgin lifters, new chromoly push rods with new rocker shafts and a new Cloyes  double roller timing set finish off the short block assembly. 
6. Rotating assembly is balanced and blue printed.  Heads are the original 2843906 large  ported closed chamber castings. they are fully rebuilt with new Elgin dual valve springs, extra large Manley stainless steel valves, new valve guides with PC seals, hardened exhaust valve seats, 5 angle valve job and freshly CBN surfaced.

Any input is appreciated.....I know what I have in it, so hopefully not totally upside down

[mtull]

Is the casting date really 1968 or was that a typo?

[70_440-6Cuda]

Yes, typo - sorry.  you can see the date on the pad, Feb 1970 I beleive

[mtull]

If I was in the market for a fully rebuilt motor I'd be willing to pay more if:
- the seller had all receipts,
- all the receipts were recent
- the shop(s) doing the work had a reputation for quality work
- dates on all the components were within a reasonable duration
- dates aligned with my cars scheduled or actual build date
- VIN started with: 0B
- dyno sheet / video

With that said (just thinking out loud)
- six pack carbs  (cores) $1200
- six pack intake (core)  $600
- 906 heads       (cores) $200
- 440 HP block    (core)  $600

- rebuilt/replated carbs: $1500 + core
- rebuilt heads (stock):  $600 + core
- rebuilt block:          $3500 + core

I'm just guessing at those figures above.

I don't see a distributor, harmonic balancer or exhaust manifolds, assuming they don't go with the motor.

[70_440-6Cuda]

yes, no manifolds / balancer etc, just what is shown.

I have to check the VIN stamp - I dont remember off the top of my head...

[Mr Cuda]

 I've seen several F440's with 68 casting dates. I thought it was odd, until I looked at my 10/69 assembled F motor and saw it too was 9-68 casting.
 A good 70 block can be $1000, heads $300.
 The values keep climbing on all these parts. True 70 carbs are 14-1600 for cores, and over $1500 to be redone once you own them.
A cast intake ( 6-800)for your shelf while you run an aluminum one. Leave the iron for the numbers crowd.
Six bbls are the affordable rare car now, as who can go out and buy a hemi?  Well, I could sell my house. Then where would I live?
 At least it would be just me as the wife would have left.
But like all things, prices are cyclical. One good downturn could put the price in reach. Or the price could flush as people age out.
 Back to work on my projects....

[70_440-6Cuda]

@Mr Cuda I totally agree, and I think you are correct, the casting is '68 but the "F" denotes '70 if I am not mistaken.

I am trying to get a feel for what I should ask for the set up as is - carbs are definitely not the easiest to come by.  I over bought what I really need and changed direction a bit so now have a few things I dont need...

any ideas on what I should ask?  I don't want to lose my a$$, but also realize it needs to be priced to attract a buyer

[mtull]

I think you leave alot on the table without shop receipts given the buyer can't here it run.  I generally see a range between 12k - 15k for fully assembled motors.

[70_440-6Cuda]

@mtull thanks for the input - that is the feedback i am looking for - appreciate it.