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Hanging By a Thread Or.... "If it works, then don't mess with it"

Started by Topcat, June 17, 2019, 06:46:54 PM

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Chryco Psycho

I ran into this constantly , often we used open lugs so the stud could come through the lug when it was too long ,
in your case you want it to look stock so yes you have to be careful that the rim is held tight & not still lose when the lugs are tight . it coul dhav ebeen much worse , often I have seen where the lug goes to the end of the stud & still tightens causing the stud to unthread & chew up the brakes on the other side of the axle flange so the wheel is tight but the brakes get destroyed .

Topcat

Quote from: Chryco Psycho on June 17, 2019, 09:08:31 PM
I ran into this constantly , often we used open lugs so the stud could come through the lug when it was too long ,
in your case you want it to look stock so yes you have to be careful that the rim is held tight & not still lose when the lugs are tight . it coul dhav ebeen much worse , often I have seen where the lug goes to the end of the stud & still tightens causing the stud to unthread & chew up the brakes on the other side of the axle flange so the wheel is tight but the brakes get destroyed .

Yes I was lucky and dodged a Bullet again.

We tried a  variety of lug nuts. Some James had from before and  some a few I had.

We found inconsistencies across the board with different makes/styles.

All were meant for Mopar.

Chryco Psycho

if you trim off the new studs you should be fine with original type lugs


RUNCHARGER

We don't go to a Chrysler parts dept and pick up new parts for these things anymore unfortunately. I've found lots of new studs and lugs don't thread on properly either. Either they are too loose or too tight all the way down.
Sheldon

gzig5

Five minutes and a cutoff disc would take care of the excess stud length.  Long studs allow use of spacers and thick aluminum wheels. If you don't need the length, cut them to stock length and dress the ends.

When I got my car I didn't like how the lug nuts felt going on and off.  If  the lugs were mixed they wouldn't want to go on all the way.  Not good.  I soaked the lugs in penetrant and then ran a bottoming tap through each one.  I soaked the studs as well and ran a die over them.  No more issues.

anlauto

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Topcat

From Left to Right:

1. These were the Lug nuts that were working perfectly with the long studs

2. These were the reproduction lug nuts that failed from Classic Industries.

3. Rick Ehrenberg sold these Problem solvers. Could've used these, but opted for a new wheel.

4. These are the new lug nuts that I had shown on the new studs yesterday.


Topcat

I spoke with the Classic Industries Supervisor today and they are refunding me most of the costs on replacing the lug nuts, Studs, Wheel, etc.

Tony the Supervisor is talking to his purchasing dept. to contact the mfg'r in China.
They also had a meeting first thing today over my situation in regard to it being a safety issue for anyone buying these lug nuts.

Likely, this Sku is going to be pulled until further notice.

My biggest question is: whose the QC/QA guy that approved them to their site?

He missed one thing: Internal dimensions.   :thinking:


nsmall

Thats good news.  Really good news.  This is turning out really good considering the fact you didnt die out there.   

1 Wild R/T

Quote from: anlauto on June 17, 2019, 07:39:44 PM
I don't understand why you're blaming the nuts when the studs are longer then stock ? :dunno:

Hate to say it but I agree with Alan, those lug nuts are designed to fit stock length lugs... Are they the best quality? Probably not.... Classic like Year One isn't known for sourcing the best parts... They source the part with the highest profit margin.... But they would probably be 100% fine with OE length studs... So take your refund & be happy.. Most hotrodders know long wheel studs require lug nuts with an open end....  So they paid for your screwup... :alan2cents:

QuoteI'd say these are stock looking lug nuts.

Well they may satisfy you but they certainly are not even close to stock looking IMO

Topcat

Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on June 21, 2019, 07:48:55 PM
Quote from: anlauto on June 17, 2019, 07:39:44 PM
I don't understand why you're blaming the nuts when the studs are longer then stock ? :dunno:

Hate to say it but I agree with Alan, those lug nuts are designed to fit stock length lugs...:alan2cents:

The first one's I owned were bought with the Rallyes. They worked fine and were meant for OEM.

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I'd say these are stock looking lug nuts.

Well they may satisfy you but they certainly are not even close to stock looking IMO

By stock, I meant they were correct count of threads not looks.