A.G.A.R. Not an E BODY

[whitsend]

Thank you,  most people are tired of seeing what I'm up to..

Not me. Keep it coming!   

[72 Challenger]

Thank you,  most people are tired of seeing what I'm up to..

Picked up this barn find Demon 340 today ......purple.....yeah...
http://www.alangallantautomotiverestoration.com/FC7DEM.html

@anlauto I Hate to bother you about this n an e-body forum but I noticed yours has a stripped interior. When my Duster was re-assembled the previous owner did a meticulous job he disliked the shoulder belts along the roof. He thought they ruined the clean  look. So my headliner was installed and and I struggling to find where the bolt is. Next time you are near it is there any change you could take a picture or a measurement of it's location? My headliner is so taught that I fear pressing on it will ruin it. I tried finding it with an infrared camera but it wasn't definitive. If it's too much i understand, but I don't really have any experts in the Ottawa area that can help me out with this.

[anlauto]

@72 Challenger the car is not here at my shop, so give me a day or two to get out to the body shop and I will be able to help you out. I couldn't find any pictures on my computer. 

[72 Challenger]

@72 Challenger the car is not here at my shop, so give me a day or two to get out to the body shop and I will be able to help you out. I couldn't find any pictures on my computer. 

Awesome thanks man I appreciate it!

[anlauto]

@72 Challenger sorry it took so long, but I did get over there and unfortunately the Demon was up on a hoist with a car under it....I got these pictures...you can see where the bolt hole is in relation the the headliner bow and the edge. as well as going up from the door jamb.

Hope it helps...

[72 Challenger]

@72 Challenger sorry it took so long, but I did get over there and unfortunately the Demon was up on a hoist with a car under it....I got these pictures...you can see where the bolt hole is in relation the the headliner bow and the edge. as well as going up from the door jamb.

Hope it helps...

Awesome thanks Alan! This is better than any reference I have had yet. 

[73_Cuda_4_Me]

As always, everything looks amazing, @anlauto... If I may ask, I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on some of the Jeep seats, and was wondering just how/what you had to tweak on the seat bases to get them to fit in an E-Body properly...?

[anlauto]

@73_Cuda_4_Me They come with fairly simple tracks that are "roughly" the same width and length as E Body outer tracks. However, when bolted to the seat they end up a little narrower and shorter in the "Square" pattern of the four holes in the floor.

So...to accommodate this, on the outer track I welded little tabs out the outside of the new Cipher track with studs on them that go through the floor.
Now on the inside track, it was a little more involved...I removed the "riser" part from the original E Body inside track and bolted it to the floor just as you would a factory seat.

Then with both the new Cipher tracks bolted to the seat, outer track having my new tabs with studs....I installed the seat resting on the inside riser...Then I marked where the Cipher track was seating on the stock riser, marked it, removed everything and welded it up as well.

The tracks supplied by Cipher have a handle out the front instead of the side, it works great and they operate smoothly.

[73_Cuda_4_Me]

So @anlauto, are those the actual racing seat brackets sold by Cipher for the 70-74 Barracuda, and is there a difference between Cuda and Chally as far as stock slider brackets??? They show a square flat stock bracket welded up for their web page, and have disclaimer "not actual bracket for the intended vehicle".

Is there any advantage or disadvantage to go with the cloth insert style over the regular seat material style?

[anlauto]

So @anlauto, are those the actual racing seat brackets sold by Cipher for the 70-74 Barracuda, and is there a difference between Cuda and Chally as far as stock slider brackets???  NO They show a square flat stock bracket welded up for their web page, and have disclaimer "not actual bracket for the intended vehicle".

Is there any advantage or disadvantage to go with the cloth insert style over the regular seat material style?

NO...these tracks are included in the price of the seats and come with, there's nothing extra to order. However, you may try ordering the extra mounts and see how they work out, if you do, let me know.

When you're out driving your car in -40* in the Winter, cloth may be warmer.....or if you're driving you car in 105* temps at Carlisle, the cloth may not burn into your skin ?

[73_Cuda_4_Me]

@anlauto  - I may just try ordering the mounting brackets that they recommend, just to see, and will let you know how they fit. I emailed them to see if I can get a picture of the actual brackets they recommend for installation, to see what they  look like. Will let you know.

I am drawn to the cloth insert model, just for a little 'breathability' driving mostly summer cruises on hot sunny days...

Thanks, Alan! Again, your projects look SO amazing!

[72 Challenger]

@72 Challenger sorry it took so long, but I did get over there and unfortunately the Demon was up on a hoist with a car under it....I got these pictures...you can see where the bolt hole is in relation the the headliner bow and the edge. as well as going up from the door jamb.

Hope it helps...

Alan did you happen to grab a photo a little more towards the front A pillar that shows where the clips that hold the seatbelt when it is not in use?

Thanks!

[anlauto]

I didn't take any more pictures that day, but again, I will be going back there soon....You can see two screw holes in the first picture I posted from where I removed the bracket...If you removed your brackets too, I think you'll be S-O-L on finding that location.

[72 Challenger]

I didn't take any more pictures that day, but again, I will be going back there soon....You can see two screw holes in the first picture I posted from where I removed the bracket...If you removed your brackets too, I think you'll be S-O-L on finding that location.

Thanks for the education Allan, I wasn't even aware there was a bracket. I didn't put the headliner in, the previous owner left them out to look "clean" but I prefer original. I thought I could put them back in this summer as a "simple" project.

I will hit up google to see what these brackets look like and see if I can determine if they are under the headliner or not.

Thanks for your help!

[anlauto]

Got this out in the sun today for the first time....Building a car in such a small space, it's a real delight to be able the stand back and take a look Today it's off for it's appointment with the exhaust specialist....exhausting work