Body paint formula

[cudamadd]

Hello to you all . Just doing some research on my paint . IT is  Fj5  so I would like to have the guys at the body shop  paint my car  as close to factory as possible. But in 2 k. P.P.G  . I know the painter can cross reference the codes . But  my problem is here in Australia the codes donot go back 50 years with the information I need. My  question would you  just match the colour by eye ?   Or would someone have the correct formula for this colour .  Cheers

[JS29]

solvent based or water born?   

[cudamadd]

solvent based cheers

[tparker]

This is an interesting question, " just match the colour by eye ?   Or would someone have the correct formula for this colour"

It depends what you're after. I personally just went with the formula. But there is a caveat. My car was Yellow which used lead to help make it opaque apparently. Of course there is no lead and it was recommended I use a white primer since yellow is a bit transparent. So this will effect the overall color even with the correct formula since the paint has different characteristics. Not to mention a different style of paint. My car was never as shinny as it is now with the clear coat.

Matching by eye would be interesting as well. Our cars are 50+ years old and the paint has changed. I was able to see close to original paint under my driver side mirror and a few other places that were protected from sun light. So you can compare 50 years of sunlight.

Personally I don't get hung up on this sort of thing and just went with the factory formula to get it close.

[7E-Bodies]

I did several sprayouts with PPG Deltron. It took a patient PPG outlet and finding original and unfaded paint inside the driver's door. After maybe five tries, my F8 dark green paint is exactly matching factory. So maybe find some factory, untouched paint on the car and use that for matching/tinting.

[moparroy]

Have you asked a PPG authorized distributor if they have the FJ5 formula in any of their PPG paint systems (all computerized)? If PPG Omni is available in Australia I would think the formula is available - not so say I would use OMNI to paint but it can give you a spray out reference to go by. OMNI is the only PPG solvent system available in Canada - but everyone uses waterborne and any that still do solvent do not want to use OMNI.
Here is what I did - and I have to say I never ever expected to have this much trouble to find a matching color that I was happy with and the shop was happy to use.
I started out with PPG OMNI - the car is repainted in its original JY9 Tahitian Gold Metallic - 1974 (a 73 and 74 only color). I painted the inside and underside (I know...) myself and it matched the original paint on the inside of the doors very well - was very happy with the PPG Omni JY9 color. Then I went to look for a pro to do the final fit and finish and paint the outside. After a couple inquiries got serious with a local shop that I had some good references on. He did not want to use Omni - tried to steer me to Valspar solvent - so he got a pint of their JY9 and did a card for me - a totally different color - no gold in it at all - really no metallics. So I paid him for his out of pocket on the pint and went on to the next. Y9 is listed for a number of years - but different names so I think the formula is subject to "wrong year".
I went back to a shop who had told me "come back next year" about 6 months earler. Again would not use OMNI - actually his painter was used to waterborne so he said he would only use water. He did use PPG water. Back to the PPG distributor - JY9 not available in water...
Then I was referred to a guy who works in paint at a major and well respected shop not too far away. Met up with him - again don't want to use Omni - again use waterborne and prefer to stay with what he knows - makes sense. What he did though was take the Omni JY9 base I had and did some spray out cards with that - then ran those through their Sikkens analyzer to try and match it. Initial attempts were close ish in color but also lacked the metallics. From his experience he was able to tweek the metallics and get a really good match - so the final was by eye I suppose - but matched to the current version of the original PPG.
I am really happy with the outcome. If you put the Omni and the Sikkens sprayouts beside one another I look at it like this - if you did two panels on the same car with each you could see a difference - but if you put two cars side by side I don't think you could tell which is which or possibly even see a difference. Both paints have a similar "flip" at different angles. I never did give him the fender tags to paint - I will paint those with Omni to show how good the match is.

[RzeroB]

CudaMadd ... Try looking in here. I've found this website to be very helpful  http://paintref.com/paintref/index.shtml

[RzeroB]

I did several sprayouts with PPG Deltron ...

Was this recently?? I didn't know they were still making it. I've used Deltron in the past and had really good results with it.

[cudamadd]

Thank you RzeroB  very helpful 

[torredcuda]

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