70 Hemi Challenger N96 Track Pak

[anlauto]

So what's it worth ? As Is 

[mike ketterer]

some pretty cool shit coming out of hiding lately

[anlauto]

So what's it worth ? As Is 

Over $63K already with 5 days to go.....where will it stop ?

[750-h2]

I cannot see the price going much higher. It will take 100k to do a full resto on that car.

[cuda hunter]

What's the vin on this hemi?   JS23R1B13 ????

137582 ... since the VIN was publicly displayed while it was at the MCACN show I assume it's not as "classified" as the redacted fender tag pic would lead us to believe. 

Thanks for that info.  You were who I had in mind for actually needing that info. 

[anlauto]

Be a great car to restore, but your total investment would be around $165K-$170K USD and what would it be worth finished without a numbers matching motor ?

[YYZ]

Be a great car to restore, but your total investment would be around $165K-$170K USD and what would it be worth finished without a numbers matching motor ?

If you could afford to hold out for your sale price, IMHO it might be in the $225-250K range.

Color combo is great - blue/blue/white stripe
4.10 Dana and the N96 code are big pluses
Also, with few options otherwise, that would also help with the overall restoration costs.

Now in terms of restoration:
- if you're planning to stay with the shaker, that's at least another $5K, assuming that the hood is early production and workable.
- need to buy an original E-body Dana
- missing most of the detail items for the Hemi.  Carbs, valve covers, etc.  Not sure that the '66 block would hurt it that much if the car remains NOM.  Or trade for a '68 block to get closer.

[anlauto]

...not to mention, it has the original fender tag and broadcast sheet which are a BIG plus in my books as far as finding a buyer at the other end.

I don't really follow 1970 Hemi Challenger's, are the automatics really fetching in the $200's ??   

Knowing the N96 is a huge plus, I think one would have to restore it that way. Seeing it fully restored with N96 on car and on the sheet and tag, I think is the better option. To restore it to the way it was ordered or at least meant to be built, rather then having to tell the story about the N96 cars that never got the hoods

[YYZ]

Well, asking price and getting price are often two different things.  But there are other Hemi/autos listed north of $300K.

Blue is not a controversial colour, unlike Plum Crazy (what? another purple car?), yellow, green, or even orange.  So broader appeal, even for multi-brand collectors.

I agree that it should be built as intended.  Otherwise, the explanation of rallye hood v. N96 gets bogged down in the details.  Much like the '71 EL5 'Runner with the mis-stamped drivetrain.  It's highly improbable that it was anything but an assembly line error (1 number off), but it causes grief almost every time the car changes hands.

[6bblgt]

....., I think one would have to restore it that way. Seeing it fully restored with N96 on car and on the sheet and tag, I think is the better option. .

  just keep perpetuating the LIE    looking for the 

[anlauto]

....., I think one would have to restore it that way. Seeing it fully restored with N96 on car and on the sheet and tag, I think is the better option. .

  just keep perpetuating the LIE    looking for the 

The "LIE"  seriously ?

So what are you trying to say ? The original tag and sheet are not "FAKE" they're just lying ? 

Regardless of what happened at the assembly plant that day, the car was ordered with N96, the broadcast sheet was processed with N96 and the fender tag was stamped with N96, so why not restore the car with N96 ? How is that perpetuating the LIE for more money ?

I'm glad they didn't run out of fiberglass hoods the day your car was being built...

[anlauto]

Well, asking price and getting price are often two different things.  But there are other Hemi/autos listed north of $300K.

Blue is not a controversial colour, unlike Plum Crazy (what? another purple car?), yellow, green, or even orange.  So broader appeal, even for multi-brand collectors.

I agree that it should be built as intended.  Otherwise, the explanation of rallye hood v. N96 gets bogged down in the details.  Much like the '71 EL5 'Runner with the mis-stamped drivetrain.  It's highly improbable that it was anything but an assembly line error (1 number off), but it causes grief almost every time the car changes hands.

We should go in as partners Vlad...You buy the car, pay for the restoration and I'll do all the work ....then you can sell the car and keep 100% of the profit...   I'll restore it with the N96 or without...doesn't matter to me...

Dan can explain to the new owner how due to the build date it's NOT really a N96 car 

[YYZ]

Believe me, I've given it more than a passing thought.  The orange '71 Hemi barn find that came up was tempting, but I'm sure it sold for a big premium.

As for the N96 on the blue one, it falls into the same debate on factory errors:  do you fix the error while restoring the car, or do you replicate the error?

If you're going for OE certification, then IMHO it's to be as accurate as possible, warts and all.

If it's a restoration, then IMHO you build it as the factory intended.  If a car were missing a rocker moulding on one side (like one of my Mom's Dodges was shipped), I think most people would find that installing one would be acceptable for all but OE Gold.

[anlauto]

That's an excellent way to view it....a factory error. 

I agree, it's much easier to fix them during a complete ground up restoration then try to explain it the rest of the cars (new) life.

I have an opening coming up....so just have it shipped directly here and I'll get Keith right on it 

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

I actually helped with this car back before MCACN.  It is a legit, sitting in a barn for 30 years.  If you have any questions, let me know.







Ryan