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Started by CudaHolland, May 05, 2018, 04:45:36 AM

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tparker

Hi CudaHolland,

Wow, an AAR. Good luck. Those are hard to come by and not cheap. Finding one in Red may take some time until one comes up. I'm no expert, but I doubt you will find one with a column shifter as that wouldn't be a good idea for a race car, which the AAR was supposed to modeled after.

I'm building my Challenger with a 340 like the T/A challenger (Sister car to the AAR). I see far fewer of them.

Looking forward to seeing what you find

anlauto

He actually wants an auto on the floor, I agree AAR's are not growing on trees...
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340challconvert

Jacob; welcome to the site

I periodically like to run the numbers on actual auction sales for ebody Mopars
I collected AAR Cuda sales from the Mecum Auctions over the last several years
Thought you would find the data interesting

:takemymoney:

Mecum 1970 AAR Cuda Sales/top bids December 2013 through 2017 current auctions
-   70 AAR  340-4sp, matching numbers K5 burnt orange  PS, PB w broadcast sheet   2017     81K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, matching numbers Y1 yellow, w 4700 original miles, high docs   2017     110K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, FE5 red, w date code correct engine, PS, PB elasto bumpers           2017     76K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, Y1 yellow PS, PB elasto bumpers, 25K original miles              2017     75K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, FE5 red, PS, PB elasto bumpers, was in Chandler/Welborn col.
                          Described as most highly optioned AAR Cuda in existance         2017     195K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, FE5 red, w correct date coded engine, PS, PB                 2017     77K
-   70 AAR 340-5sp?, FE5 red, matching numbers,                                2016     80K
-   70 AAR 340-auto, sassy grass green, matching numbers, not sold bid to:      2016     80K
-   70 AAR 340-auto, Y1 yellow, numbers matching, 68K miles, not sold, bid to:           2016     57K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, Y1 yellow, PB                                                       2016     91K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, green, rotisserie resto 2008- claimed 300k resto?  PB              2016     75K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, FE5 red, PB from Schmeeckle collection                    2016     90K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, Y1 yellow, rotisserie resto, PB                               2015     72.5K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, Y1 yellow, rotisserie resto, 96K miles                            2015     65K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, green,                                                2015     60K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp FE 5 red, was in Wellborn collection, elasto bumpers              2015    140K
-   70 AAR 340-auto, FC7 plum crazy, bench seat, not sold bid to:                 2015     40K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, black, rotisserie resto, PS, PB                               2014    68K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, green, rotisserie resto 2008- claimed 300k resto?              2014  65K
             *** This car was sold in 2014 and resold in 2016 for 10K more
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, Y1 yellow, 2013 resto, PB                                       2013   72.5K

It looks like more 4sp cars go through the auctions then automatics!
Also keep in mind, these prices are for the Mecum auctions only; obviously there are other auctions and sources for purchasing cars.
It gives you a window as what is being put up for sale.  Some these cars did not meet the sellers minimum price.


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Husk Challenger

I suppose you have already seen this one for sale in Holland?

http://www.pedaltothemetal.nl/cars/2089/Plymouth/Cuda%20AAR%20!

The good color, the good transmission...what's wrong with it?
Challenger 73' 383ci 4spd ---> SOLD
Challenger 71' 318 904 RT clone ---> Stroker 318/392 Tf 727!

anlauto

That looks perfect for him :alan2cents: :banana:
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kdcarman

Quote from: 340challconvert on May 07, 2018, 04:08:09 PM
Jacob; welcome to the site

I periodically like to run the numbers on actual auction sales for ebody Mopars
I collected AAR Cuda sales from the Mecum Auctions over the last several years
Thought you would find the data interesting

:takemymoney:

Mecum 1970 AAR Cuda Sales/top bids December 2013 through 2017 current auctions
-   70 AAR  340-4sp, matching numbers K5 burnt orange  PS, PB w broadcast sheet   2017     81K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, matching numbers Y1 yellow, w 4700 original miles, high docs   2017     110K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, FE5 red, w date code correct engine, PS, PB elasto bumpers           2017     76K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, Y1 yellow PS, PB elasto bumpers, 25K original miles              2017     75K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, FE5 red, PS, PB elasto bumpers, was in Chandler/Welborn col.
                          Described as most highly optioned AAR Cuda in existance         2017     195K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, FE5 red, w correct date coded engine, PS, PB                 2017     77K
-   70 AAR 340-5sp?, FE5 red, matching numbers,                                2016     80K
-   70 AAR 340-auto, sassy grass green, matching numbers, not sold bid to:      2016     80K
-   70 AAR 340-auto, Y1 yellow, numbers matching, 68K miles, not sold, bid to:           2016     57K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, Y1 yellow, PB                                                       2016     91K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, green, rotisserie resto 2008- claimed 300k resto?  PB              2016     75K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, FE5 red, PB from Schmeeckle collection                    2016     90K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, Y1 yellow, rotisserie resto, PB                               2015     72.5K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, Y1 yellow, rotisserie resto, 96K miles                            2015     65K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, green,                                                2015     60K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp FE 5 red, was in Wellborn collection, elasto bumpers              2015    140K
-   70 AAR 340-auto, FC7 plum crazy, bench seat, not sold bid to:                 2015     40K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, black, rotisserie resto, PS, PB                               2014    68K
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, green, rotisserie resto 2008- claimed 300k resto?              2014  65K
             *** This car was sold in 2014 and resold in 2016 for 10K more
-   70 AAR 340-4sp, Y1 yellow, 2013 resto, PB                                       2013   72.5K

It looks like more 4sp cars go through the auctions then automatics!
Also keep in mind, these prices are for the Mecum auctions only; obviously there are other auctions and sources for purchasing cars.
It gives you a window as what is being put up for sale.  Some these cars did not meet the sellers minimum price.

Thanks for collecting and posting this information.
It puts into perspective what price an AAR actually transfer hands at.
From the list AAR's (with a few exceptional cases) are transferring at less then 100k.

anlauto

Cars auctioned off are not always the best quality though :thinking:
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
Check out my web site ....  Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration


JS29

Quote from: anlauto on May 08, 2018, 04:15:51 AM
Cars auctioned off are not always the best quality though :thinking:
:iagree: now ask me how I Know!!!!!  :foul:

kdcarman

Attempting fair market value for AAR's.

Definition of FMV: 
Probable price at which a willing buyer will buy from a willing seller when (1) both are unrelated, (2) know the relevant facts, (3) neither is under any compulsion to buy or sell

Here is an example of AAR that has been for sale a "long time".  Over one year.  Would this be considered a high end quality restoration?  @anlauto

https://www.rkmotors.com/vehicles/2559/1970-plymouth-cuda-aar

anlauto

Quote from: kdcarman on May 09, 2018, 04:23:45 AM
Attempting fair market value for AAR's.

Definition of FMV: 
Probable price at which a willing buyer will buy from a willing seller when (1) both are unrelated, (2) know the relevant facts, (3) neither is under any compulsion to buy or sell

Here is an example of AAR that has been for sale a "long time".  Over one year.  Would this be considered a high end quality restoration?  @anlauto

https://www.rkmotors.com/vehicles/2559/1970-plymouth-cuda-aar

I can't find too many faults....The restoration is nice, documentation is great....
I think the asking price is on the high side of optimistic..., but it should at least be a six figure car  :alan2cents:

P.S. It's not black... ;)
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
Check out my web site ....  Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration

kdcarman

Quote from: anlauto on May 09, 2018, 04:35:05 AM
Quote from: kdcarman on May 09, 2018, 04:23:45 AM
Attempting fair market value for AAR's.

Definition of FMV: 
Probable price at which a willing buyer will buy from a willing seller when (1) both are unrelated, (2) know the relevant facts, (3) neither is under any compulsion to buy or sell

Here is an example of AAR that has been for sale a "long time".  Over one year.  Would this be considered a high end quality restoration?  @anlauto

https://www.rkmotors.com/vehicles/2559/1970-plymouth-cuda-aar

I can't find too many faults....The restoration is nice, documentation is great....
I think the asking price is on the high side of optimistic..., but it should at least be a six figure car  :alan2cents:

P.S. It's not black... ;)

So you know what I am trying to do - how do accurately assess the value.
I am thinking this is standup, higher AAR.  Clearly the market
does not value this car at 130k.  I suspect it would get sold at 100k all day.
Then if it were black, same quality restoration, same document, add a black premium.


303 Mopar

Quote from: kdcarman on May 09, 2018, 04:23:45 AM
Attempting fair market value for AAR's.

Definition of FMV: 
Probable price at which a willing buyer will buy from a willing seller when (1) both are unrelated, (2) know the relevant facts, (3) neither is under any compulsion to buy or sell

Here is an example of AAR that has been for sale a "long time".  Over one year.  Would this be considered a high end quality restoration?  @anlauto

https://www.rkmotors.com/vehicles/2559/1970-plymouth-cuda-aar

RK Motors and Vanguard always overprice their cars, buy a lot.  But somehow they stay in business, so I guess there is a sucker out there for everything. Or they drop the asking price by 20%.   :notsure:

anlauto

Quote from: kdcarman on May 09, 2018, 05:25:22 AM
Quote from: anlauto on May 09, 2018, 04:35:05 AM
Quote from: kdcarman on May 09, 2018, 04:23:45 AM
Attempting fair market value for AAR's.

Definition of FMV: 
Probable price at which a willing buyer will buy from a willing seller when (1) both are unrelated, (2) know the relevant facts, (3) neither is under any compulsion to buy or sell

Here is an example of AAR that has been for sale a "long time".  Over one year.  Would this be considered a high end quality restoration?  @anlauto

https://www.rkmotors.com/vehicles/2559/1970-plymouth-cuda-aar

I can't find too many faults....The restoration is nice, documentation is great....
I think the asking price is on the high side of optimistic..., but it should at least be a six figure car  :alan2cents:

P.S. It's not black... ;)

So you know what I am trying to do - how do accurately assess the value.
I am thinking this is standup, higher AAR.  Clearly the market
does not value this car at 130k.  I suspect it would get sold at 100k all day.
Then if it were black, same quality restoration, same document, add a black premium.

I would agree with that.....$95K -$105K being a four speed, if it was an auto likely $85K-$95K
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Check out my web site ....  Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration

kathyscuda


anlauto

It may be CRAZY, but it today's reality.....we're no longer living in the 80's...... :looney: :bigmoney:
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
Check out my web site ....  Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration