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70 Challenger Lover · March 05, 2019, 06:12:15 PM

I have always wanted one of these cars so I really watch them. Over the past two years, I have seen some real trash sell in the $25k range. I'm talking a lot of metal work too along with the full resto needed.

Assuming it was inspected well, I could see way more than 30k IF...

1) zero rust
2) body nice and straight so that it just needs minor body and paint
3) Engine work was done professionally and recently with verification
4) it was missing no parts and the parts were in good condition

Most of the 71s have been restored so just aren't many projects left. Those that remain are in seriously bad shape. This is a got to pay to play kind of car. Granted 45k seems steep but there isn't a lot to compare it to for sale right now.

JonH · March 05, 2019, 07:26:13 PM

Quote from: anlauto on March 05, 2019, 12:55:16 PM
Quote from: chargerdon on March 05, 2019, 12:53:20 PM
Apples to oranges? I dont even understand that...

You're comparing the value of a 1974 Challenger to a 1971 Barracuda....it's like comparing "apples to oranges" there's no real comparison.

You completely missed his point...He says he has 15k in his car, and it is worth that or more...Just trying to point out that doing it the way he did it, you don't have to be completely upside down in one of these cars when it is done. He was certainly not comparing his car to the other...

ledphoot · March 06, 2019, 12:39:13 PM

Quote from: 70 Challenger Lover on March 05, 2019, 06:12:15 PM
I have always wanted one of these cars so I really watch them. Over the past two years, I have seen some real trash sell in the $25k range. I'm talking a lot of metal work too along with the full resto needed.

Assuming it was inspected well, I could see way more than 30k IF...

1) zero rust
2) body nice and straight so that it just needs minor body and paint
3) Engine work was done professionally and recently with verification
4) it was missing no parts and the parts were in good condition

Most of the 71s have been restored so just aren't many projects left. Those that remain are in seriously bad shape. This is a got to pay to play kind of car. Granted 45k seems steep but there isn't a lot to compare it to for sale right now.

The reason I say $30K is based on my speculation of the true shape of the car based on what I can see in the pictures. The interior panels look ashy and nobody in they right mind would put the car together with a sub-par interior. Having just priced all the components and knowing what kind of time we are talking that alone is a lot of money.

You are correct with regards to the motor, if they have receipts for all the machining etc and you can hear it run / do a compression test etc that is probably good to go.

$30K MAY be a little low.. But I still think $45K is too high. $35K, MAYBE $40K.. But definitely not $45K.. I would wager there are a lot of hidden costs not being considered here.

70 Challenger Lover · March 06, 2019, 12:48:32 PM

To be honest, I didn't examine the ad that hard. I agree that if you see crappy stuff tossed into a car to fill a hole, then it's an indicator of how the rest of the car was put together. 30k could actually be the right price. For 45k, I'd want to drive the car away truly believing that all it needed was paint, interior, chrome, and maybe a few other finish things.

ledphoot · March 06, 2019, 01:00:19 PM

It's a cool car no doubt about it... I can only speak for myself, knowing my limitations and standards. I am learning a ton doing the '73 and I know at some point several years from now I will be going over the '73 again to raise it to a whole new level.. Looking at that ad again I see how much disassembly will be required to get a good paint job on the car, I wonder why the engine is so dirty, I am looking at that shaker unit as a mini-project into itself..

For a lot of you guys, who take on some monumental challenges I probably sound like a B!tch

I just know how little time I have and how much I value my time.. This car will be a lot of work. For the right person it's a GREAT project. For me, I'd be paying somebody to do a lot of the heavy lifting to make sure it is done right.

RUNCHARGER · March 06, 2019, 07:24:31 PM

I do all of my own work. From building the transmission to spraying the paint. I would be upside down building this car just in parts and materials, no labour costs..

BIGSHCLUNK · March 06, 2019, 07:54:09 PM

$45k.... bill of sale? End of conversation.....

Crocha617 · March 07, 2019, 04:52:15 AM

Quote from: BIGSHCLUNK on March 06, 2019, 07:54:09 PM
$45k.... bill of sale? End of conversation.....

It says it comes with GA registration also

anlauto · March 07, 2019, 05:02:21 AM

Quote from: Crocha617 on March 07, 2019, 04:52:15 AM
Quote from: BIGSHCLUNK on March 06, 2019, 07:54:09 PM
$45k.... bill of sale? End of conversation.....

It says it comes with GA registration also

That's how I read it too...
I have up for sale my 1971 Baracuda. I have owned this car for 15 years. Car runs and drives, car has a 451 stoker motor, 4 speed transmission, 391 gear, comes with shaker hood, front and rear spoilers, road lamps, 17 inch rally wheels with new nito tires. Rim blow steering wheel and rally gauages, car was original AC car. Car is almost ready for paint shop. Can finish paint work for the right price. Many new parts, to much to list. Only serious buyers call Terry @ 678///72 five/253 one for more information. Car is being sold with Bill of Sale and Ga registration.

scf100 · March 11, 2019, 02:25:18 PM

boys I live maybe 20 minutes from the car...

Georgia will NOT issue a title on a car this old unless you got one when you bought it......................we are backwards here but that's how we roll....

you could get a bonded title elsewhere if you need one.....

never been a problem for me selling a car on bill of sale out of state or out of the country for that matter.

HP_Cuda · March 11, 2019, 02:27:02 PM

This would be a massive pain in the @@@ if you wanted to register it in Calif. As I'm sure other states are the same.

So this must cut down a bit on folks who bid on it.

70 Challenger Lover · March 11, 2019, 04:01:57 PM

Actually it's easier in Ca without a title. Most of the old cars I've registered in CA didn't have a title and it was just a couple extra forms and a VIN verification. Never had an issue with any of them.

BIGSHCLUNK · March 11, 2019, 04:12:23 PM

You'd get nowhere quick here

6pack · March 11, 2019, 05:36:40 PM

For states that do not issue new titles for old cars a bill of sale and a registration is all you need. I have done it plenty of times. My state issues a title no matter how old a car is but when buying an out of state car they honor the title system used in the state you purchased it from . The registration sometimes has a seller signature line to transfer ownership. The registration can be old and out of date but still works. The most strangest one was a 1966 Chevelle SS project I bought in Tennesee with an Ohio state paperwork 20 some years signed to the guy I bought it from. He never signed it to himself. Some states may not know what to do at each place they transfer the paperwork. Best is to call in to the department of trans to figure it out from their expert.

BFM_Cuda · March 11, 2019, 06:13:11 PM

Quote from: anlauto on March 05, 2019, 07:15:12 AM
It's called "Mopar restoration math" maybe you haven't experienced it yet ...

omg... that's hilarious....