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1970 Dodge Challenger R/T SE 383 3 speed

Started by MasonDaniel7, December 10, 2021, 11:15:21 PM

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JH27N0B

Too bad the picture of the tag is not sharp, but it looks like JH23N0B.
So not an R/T or an SE. But what an unusual car, well optioned triple black 383 with 3 speed trans!
I sure hope someone buys it and finishes the restoration.

CudaJim

Pics could be better but it looks like JH29 to me, so not an R/T, but it is an SE...


JS29

I see a code C26, overhead consolet  So that could be A JH29 and not a 3.   :takealook:

JH27N0B

Now that I squint at the picture a little more I think you guys are correct. JH29N0B.
The E body that may well have got the most "buzz" at MCACN a few weeks ago was a FK5 JH23N0B car with D13 and gator grain top.  After attending that show for awhile you start to think you've seen every hemi car ever built, and then a non hemi car with a totally unique configuration shows up and drops everyone's jaws for being more exciting than the hemis.  :unbelievable:
This SE project is just as unusual, I wish I was in a position to take on a project but can't. Someone please save it!

70 Challenger Lover

This is the tag from my JH car. Mine is a HP 383 / four speed car but not in the cool triple black unfortunately. Just burnt orange in and out. While I may keep the orange interior, I seriously doubt I'd keep the original exterior color. Maybe white or Go Mango?

I thought my car was unusual but this one in the ad may be even more so if it's a three speed manual and an SE. Hope someone in here buys it and gets it out to the shows.

JH27N0B

My convertible that I named myself after in the forum is a burnt orange with burnt orange interior car.
When I found the car I wasn't too excited about the color, or the flat hood for that matter.
But the color grew on me over the years, and the flat hood is what sets it apart from the raisen bran and shaker hoods crowd, so I wouldn't change a thing now.
The only thing I consider a negative about the color now, is that along with FC7, FK5 was one of the most common 1970 Challenger colors.  The more unusual the better is how my tastes run.
One interesting factoid about JH N code cars is that one's with automatics got corporate blue painted engines, but manuals get hemi orange engines.
I get people from time to time informing me my engine should be orange...


6bblgt

per GG's "white book" the JH29 w/383HP & 3-speed manual is one of 12 built to US specs.

& it is black/black/black/black (exterior paint, vinyl top, leather interior, body-side mouldings) with A/C  :yes:

power steering , power brakes , dual chrome mirrors , power windows , 8-track - numbers & a sheet doesn't suck either  :banana:

70 Challenger Lover

That's really interesting. I hadn't heard that factoid before but it makes sense. My 383 came orange with the Holley carburetor and twin scoop performance air cleaner, HP manifolds and dual exhaust turned down at the rear valance. I have heard that all 383s equipped with engine code E63 were like this. It's also consistent with other 383 Mopars I've had with the E63 engine.

I've heard there is another 383 four barrel engine option that came painted blue but had a different carb rather than a Holley (Carter perhaps?). Is this the engine your car has? What's the engine code on your fender tag or broadcast sheet state? And are there other differences with exhaust, cam, etc? I seem to recall these blue 383s were rated at 330hp while the orange ones were rated at 335hp. I geek out over learning subtle little factory facts like this. 

6bblgt

#9
for 1970 -
ALL Challenger R/T (JS23/JS27/JS29) with N-code (E63) 383 were 335hp orange engines with a HOLLEY 4bbl carburetor
ALL Challenger & Challenger SE (JH23/JH27/JH29) with N-code (E63) 383 & manual transmission (3 & 4-speeds) were 335hp orange engines with a HOLLEY 4bbl carburetor
&
ALL Challenger & Challenger SE (JH23/JH27/JH29) with N-code 383 (E63) & automatic transmission were 330hp blue engines with a CARTER 4bbl carburetor

both engines had the same air cleaner, intake, exhaust manifolds, valve covers, etc. (from the outside the color, pie tin & carburetor are the only differences)
(on the inside: cam, valve springs & windage tray are the only differences)

1970

383 manual - E & B-body - with ECS (N95)
orange HP engine 335hp
---------- Holley R4217-A ---------- part number 3418 537 on b'cast 37
383 manual - E & B-body - w/o ECS
orange HP engine 335hp engine on b'cast 084 with A/C & 087
---------- Holley R4367-A ---------- part number 3418 536 on b'cast 36
383 manual - E & B-body - w/o ECS & with "fresh air" (N96).
orange HP engine 335hp
---------- Holley R4736-1A ---------- part number 3512 964 on b'cast 64
383 manual - E & B-body - with ECS (N95) & with "fresh air" (N96).
orange HP engine 335hp
---------- Holley R4738-1A ---------- part number 3512 974 on b'cast 74

383 automatic - E, C & B-body - w/o A/C & w/o ECS
blue engine 330hp
---------- Carter 4736S ---------- part number 3418 538 on b'cast 38
383 automatic - E, C & B-body - with A/C (H51) & w/o ECS
blue engine 330hp
---------- Carter 4732S ---------- part number 3418 540 on b'cast 40
383 automatic - E, C & B-body - with ECS (N95)
blue engine 330hp
---------- Carter 4734S ---------- part number 3418 541 on b'cast 41

383 automatic - E & B-body - w/o A/C & w/o ECS
orange HP engine 335hp engine on b'cast 088
---------- Holley R4368-A ---------- part number 3418 542 on b'cast 42
383 automatic - E & B-body - w/o A/C & with "fresh air" (N96).
orange HP engine 335hp engine on b'cast 088
---------- Holley R4737-1A ---------- part number 3512 965 on b'cast 65     
383 automatic - E & B-body - with ECS (N95)
orange HP engine 335hp
---------- Holley R4218-A ---------- part number 3418 543 on b'cast 43
383 automatic - E & B-body - with A/C (H51) & w/o ECS
orange HP engine 335hp engine on b'cast 089
---------- Holley R4369-A ---------- part number 3418 562 on b'cast 62
383 automatic - E & B-body - with ECS (N95) & with "fresh air" (N96).
orange HP engine 335hp
---------- Holley R4739-1A ---------- part number 3512 975 on b'cast 75

RUNCHARGER

This really looks like an interesting project. It's in a good state right now to see what it needs and would be a great car restored to original.
Sheldon


anlauto

Chrysler made so many unique and different cars back in the day that would be very cool to see restored back to original...but restoration costs are just crazy... this car would cost the same to restore and a six pack car, but not quite the same return on investment  :'(
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
Check out my web site ....  Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration

JH27N0B

From a purely financial standpoint, I think you are correct Alan.
But for a "wow" factor, this car would likely bring more bang for the buck.  I truly got the impression that the FK5 JH23NOB 3 speed car on display at MCACN last month got more attention than any of the R code E bodies (or J0B cars there for that matter) on display there.
As I recall, the JH23N0B car at MCACN was restored from a rusty basket case, so hopefully someone will appreciate this car on eBay and devote a similar passion to resurrecting it.

anlauto

I'm with you 100% as far as attracting attention....but a proper ground up restoration (whether you do everything yourself or not) takes deep pockets....most "deep pocket" people are looking to restore more rare and desirable cars unfortunately...You don't see too many people wanting to throw money at a car like this, although I wish more people would. :bigmoney:
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
Check out my web site ....  Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration

MKA

I know everyone here got excited on the 383 3 speed SE but here is another flat hood 383 Auto needs restoration but doesn't look bad for the price 8K.   Devil in the details of course. 

https://scottsbluff.craigslist.org/pts/d/potter-1970-dodge-challenger/7414313240.html