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Started by blown motor, September 05, 2021, 04:45:11 PM

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blown motor

Challenger 340 auto. I started the car today, drove it out of the shop and shut it off. Fifteen minutes later it wouldn't start. Nothing. Blower fan did run but starter wouldn't even click. I put the charger on at 40 amps and got a steady stream of clicking when I tried to start it. At 200 amps the clicking was louder. I loosened and retightened the battery cables. Strange thing is that with the charger on when I tried to start it the rad fan turned really slowly. Is this a starter solenoid issue. It has a mini starter. This happened once or twice recently but then it did start.
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Brads70

How old are the battery cables?  I ask as I learned that lesson the hard way....

blown motor

They were on the car when I bought it 9 years ago. The battery is in the trunk.
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Brads70

Maybe try boosting it from another known/good battery right on the starter solenoid and see what happens?  Eliminate battery cable issue?   

dodj

Does not appear to be a solenoid issue. Battery, battery cable, or starter issue.
Is the solenoid in the trunk or engine compartment?
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Chryco Psycho

So what is clicking , the starer solinoid or the relay on the inner fender , if the starter is clicking it is either not enough amps getting to the starter on the main cable or the contact ring inside the starter .
if the relay is clicking the relay or solinoid is bad .

blown motor

Are the relays readily available? Like maybe at Napa?
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Brads70

Quote from: blown motor on September 05, 2021, 07:37:14 PM
Are the relays readily available? Like maybe at Napa?

Yes, I would think so. You could try jumping the relay?


cudamadd

Very good video thanks for sharing  :australia:

dodj

#9
Relay's (solenoids) click when they are operating properly.
If it is chattering, it could be bad, or poorly grounded, or insufficient 12v.
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blown motor

I checked out the relay as per the above video and all was good. There's 12V at the battery (in the trunk) and 12V where the cable connects to the starter. The attached video shows what happens when I try to start. You can hear it. The click that I refer to is from the car, not a key click.

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Bullitt-

  Your video or perhaps the youtube account is set to private so we cannot view it. 
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blown motor

Thanks Wade, it's public now.
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Bullitt-

  Video working.... Makes me think of bad battery connection or cable (I've never had to replace a cable) Guess you've checked connection on the starter? 
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dodj

Bad connection, bad battery, bad cables, or bad starter.
I'd check connections first. At the battery, the firewall negative connections, at the starter. If they all check out (take them apart and ensure they are clean), then I would flex the cables. Check it all the way from the trunk. See if they are soft and pliable. Bad cables often get stiff from corrosion.
While doing the above put the battery charger on an isolated battery. See if the charger has an issue with the battery.
If all this checking looks good, try to start after you have it all back together. If it doesn't start...it's your starter.

My wild ass guess is a bad cable.



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