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Started by Aar1064, April 18, 2017, 05:13:37 PM

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Aar1064

This is a fairly new build. Total runtime is maybe an hour. Engine just all of a sudden decided that it didn't want to start. Fuel is good. Original dual point distributor, points are set correctly, new rotor and cap.

Coil and resistor are hot to the touch.

Video of number three plug. https://forum.e-bodies.org/gallery/;sa=view;id=348

Thanks for the help.....

Cuda Cody


Cuda Cody

Watch the spark.  It does not look like it's firing all the time?   :thinking:  Fires, Fires, skips, Fires, skips, skips...  I think that might be your answer.  Issue with the distributor?   :huh:


Cuda Cody


Cuda Cody

In the video that @Aar1064 posted it's a little easier to see the spark.  But when I converted it to MP4 to play in the post it lost some of the ease of seeing the spark.  But I'm still thinking this might be a spark issue?   :thinking:

1 Wild R/T

I see the spark is very weak... I hear that theres no compression on one cylinder.....

HP_Cuda


First off you are running rich, that may be because you are not getting spark.

Check the resistance on the coil, ballast resistor and wires. This should point at the culprit.

8)
1970 Cuda Yellow 440 4 speed (Sold)
1970 Cuda clone 440 4 speed FJ5
1975 Dodge Power Wagon W200


Aar1064

Quote from: Cuda Cody on April 18, 2017, 05:20:47 PM
What's the timing set at?

Timing isn't set yet. We worked a while back with trying to set distributor to where it wouldn't hit the oil pressure switch (remember?) and then I had issues with carbs leaking so sent them for repair and  I just put them on again today and tried to start.  Distributor has been out, and gear shaft was moved around a bit.

Aar1064

Quote from: Cuda Cody on April 18, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
Watch the spark.  It does not look like it's firing all the time?   :thinking:  Fires, Fires, skips, Fires, skips, skips...  I think that might be your answer.  Issue with the distributor?   :huh:

I rebuilt distributor and it's been on a machine for adjustments. That's not really saying much but they are pretty simple to tear down and rebuild unless I'm missing something.

Aar1064

Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on April 18, 2017, 05:57:41 PM
I see the spark is very weak... I hear that theres no compression on one cylinder.....

Could that be because the plug is out?

Aar1064

Quote from: HP_Cuda on April 18, 2017, 05:59:01 PM

First off you are running rich, that may be because you are not getting spark.

Check the resistance on the coil, ballast resistor and wires. This should point at the culprit.

8)

Just to be sure  :thinking: resistance between positive and negative on the coil? I've checked wires and they are good?


1 Wild R/T

Quote from: Aar1064 on April 18, 2017, 06:18:37 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on April 18, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
Watch the spark.  It does not look like it's firing all the time?   :thinking:  Fires, Fires, skips, Fires, skips, skips...  I think that might be your answer.  Issue with the distributor?   :huh:

I rebuilt distributor and it's been on a machine for adjustments. That's not really saying much but they are pretty simple to tear down and rebuild unless I'm missing something.

Yeah, unfortunately quality parts.... In the past five years I've seen an awful lot of bad condensers brand new right out of the box......

And you still have no compression on one cylinder.....  That could be a problem.... Unless it's missing it's spark plug...

Cuda Cody

I think you're on to it.  You need to get the timing set. I'm thinking that might be the issue.....  but it might be more then one thing?   :notsure: 

Quote from: Aar1064 on April 18, 2017, 06:14:07 PM
Timing isn't set yet. We worked a while back with trying to set distributor to where it wouldn't hit the oil pressure switch (remember?) and then I had issues with carbs leaking so sent them for repair and  I just put them on again today and tried to start.  Distributor has been out, and gear shaft was moved around a bit.

HP_Cuda


Correct.

The coil should be around 1.3 to 1.7 ohms
The ballast should be at 1.2 ohms
You stated your wires are correct to manufacturers specs.

B

Quote from: Aar1064 on April 18, 2017, 06:22:55 PM
Quote from: HP_Cuda on April 18, 2017, 05:59:01 PM

First off you are running rich, that may be because you are not getting spark.

Check the resistance on the coil, ballast resistor and wires. This should point at the culprit.

8)

Just to be sure  :thinking: resistance between positive and negative on the coil? I've checked wires and they are good?
1970 Cuda Yellow 440 4 speed (Sold)
1970 Cuda clone 440 4 speed FJ5
1975 Dodge Power Wagon W200

mopar jack

Got to  ask, when you re-installed  the distributor did you put in correctly. Maybe 180 degrees off?