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help needed - made a mess priming oil on 340

Started by Dakota, October 29, 2017, 06:55:07 AM

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Dakota

So I put oil in my 340 for the first time since it was rebuilt at a local engine shop.  With the distributor out, I used one of the hex shaped priming tools in a portable drill and spun the pump clockwise (based on the firing order) while slowly rotating the crankshaft.   Things seems to go ok for the first couple of minutes, but then I had oil backing up out of the distributor hole.   I think I was spinning the priming tool a little faster when the oil came out but it didn't seem to be unreasonable given how fast the distributor shaft has to turn when the engine would be running.   The engine is sitting on piano mover carts.  The valve covers are in place and I hadn't hooked up an oil pressure gauge yet.   I was mostly trying to make sure there was some lubricant in the engine before it goes for a winter nap.  What am I doing wrong?   

1 Wild R/T

The machine shop forgot to install a gallery plug under the intake manifold.... What else did they miss?

Dakota

Thanks for the reply Wild.   I just checked for the galley plug.  It may not show well in this picture, but it was in place when I was spinning the pump.  Any other places to check?


Cuda Cody

Can you take the valve covers off and see if the oil is making it to the rockers?

VCODE

Quote from: Cuda Cody on October 29, 2017, 07:58:27 AM
Can you take the valve covers off and see if the oil is making it to the rockers?

Every engine I primed with the drill always stopped the drill when primed.
Bob

Dakota

Well crap.  After running the drill again, the oil was actually coming from the threaded hole below the spot for the distributor hold down clamp (roughly the center of the pic below) which I now realize is where the sending unit for the temperature sensor was supposed to be. I dug it out of a parts box and surprise surprise there were no more leaks once it was installed.   Now all I have to do is replace the quart of oil that dumped on the floor during this learning process. 

I think the time lag when I first started spinning the pump was from filling up the oil filter. 

Cody: I checked the driver side rockers through the breather hole (I added the oil through the driver side, so that side would already be wet).  The oil hasn't reached the passenger side rockers yet, but I'll make a point of checking them when I get back to the the engine tonight.

Funny how just having to write about this (combined with coming across the temp sensor while looking for something else) combined with your questions helped lead to an answer.  I would be totally  with boards like this.

Dakota



Chryco Psycho

As you found out it is good to have all the oil system ports plugged !! :bigthumb:

Cuda Cody

 :veryexcited:  Nice job!  Glad you got it solved.  And yes a lot of oil will come out of that hole it it's not plugged. 

https://forum.e-bodies.org/engine-transmission-and-rear-end/4/please-tell-me-im-not-the-only-to-make-this-mistake/3431/

FYI, you have the standard gauge oil sending unit.  If you go with a rallye gauge dash you will need a different oil sending unit.   :alan2cents:

Dakota

Good eyes Cody!   I have a non-Rallye gauge cluster so no worries there. 

Racer57

Quote from: Cuda Cody on October 29, 2017, 09:31:11 AM
:veryexcited:  Nice job!  Glad you got it solved.  And yes a lot of oil will come out of that hole it it's not plugged. 

https://forum.e-bodies.org/engine-transmission-and-rear-end/4/please-tell-me-im-not-the-only-to-make-this-mistake/3431/

FYI, you have the standard gauge oil sending unit.  If you go with a rallye gauge dash you will need a different oil sending unit.   :alan2cents:
What happens if you use standard unit with rallye gauge ? Not work or not accurate ?


1 Wild R/T

Quote from: Racer57 on October 29, 2017, 10:51:48 AM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on October 29, 2017, 09:31:11 AM
:veryexcited:  Nice job!  Glad you got it solved.  And yes a lot of oil will come out of that hole it it's not plugged. 

https://forum.e-bodies.org/engine-transmission-and-rear-end/4/please-tell-me-im-not-the-only-to-make-this-mistake/3431/

FYI, you have the standard gauge oil sending unit.  If you go with a rallye gauge dash you will need a different oil sending unit.   :alan2cents:
What happens if you use standard unit with rallye gauge ? Not work or not accurate ?

std unit is an on/off path to ground.... gauge unit is a variable path to ground... Use a std unit & the gauge goes straight to max pressure


BTW Dakota, the machine shop has been cleared...What else did you miss?   :pokeeye:  Glad you found it & it was an easy fix.... Well other than the cleanup...

RUNCHARGER

I was going to ask but... Glad you found it.
Sheldon

Dakota

Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on October 29, 2017, 11:04:36 AM

BTW Dakota, the machine shop has been cleared...What else did you miss?   :pokeeye:  Glad you found it & it was an easy fix.... Well other than the cleanup...

Wild, I certainly deserve the poke.   The challenge will be keeping the damage to a minimum when (not if) my other "misses" appear.

I was able to get oil pumped up to the rocker arms, so I'm a happy dude (except maybe for that pile of oil dry I still have to sweep up).

1 Wild R/T

Quote from: Dakota on October 29, 2017, 05:24:01 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on October 29, 2017, 11:04:36 AM

BTW Dakota, the machine shop has been cleared...What else did you miss?   :pokeeye:  Glad you found it & it was an easy fix.... Well other than the cleanup...

Wild, I certainly deserve the poke.   The challenge will be keeping the damage to a minimum when (not if) my other "misses" appear.

I was able to get oil pumped up to the rocker arms, so I'm a happy dude (except maybe for that pile of oil dry I still have to sweep up).

We all make mistakes, learn from it & move on..... But we still get to  :pokeeye: :rofl: :drinkingbud: