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Started by cuda hunter, September 15, 2019, 08:01:18 AM

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cuda hunter

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Cuda Cody

Parts book say (page 19-23)

19-54-196 COOLER, Pump Oil

W/318 and 340 Eng.,
W/3.54, 3.55 and 3.91 Axle Ratio #2891 241

W/383 and 440 Eng.,
W/3.54, 3.55 and 3.91, 4.10 Axle Ratio #2891 162

Floyd

Here's what the small block cooler bracket looks like.


Cuda Cody

This is from a 340 T/A.  Might help determine what it is or is not.

6bblgt

the originally posted cooler is for a SAGINAW pump as used on 383 & 440

@Floyd  & @Cuda Cody  :twothumbsup: pictured the correct 340 & HEMI FEDERAL unit

the numbers stamped on the brackets are 4-digit dates - 3-digit day of 1-digit year (012th day of '70, 021st day of '70, 040th day of '70, etc.) & a 5-digit vendor number * 21042

mccannix

I never knew that 383's could come with a power steering cooler.

71383bee

Quote from: 6bblgt on September 15, 2019, 10:57:56 AM
the originally posted cooler is for a SAGINAW pump as used on 383 & 440

@Floyd  & @Cuda Cody  :twothumbsup: pictured the correct 340 & HEMI FEDERAL unit

the numbers stamped on the brackets are 4-digit dates - 3-digit day of 1-digit year (012th day of '70, 021st day of '70, 040th day of '70, etc.) & a 5-digit vendor number * 21042

My car also has a stock PS cooler.  I had it out last year.  It comes with the A36 Performance axle package which mine has with the 3.55 SG.  For 73 whoever ordered my chally they weren't giving up yet on the emissions era!   :burnout:

Does anyone know what power steering hose is supposed to be used for this?  I have tried 3 different types and none of them work for this application.  It seems like the federal pump with the cooler was a rare option. 

73 Challenger Rallye - 340 4 speed - K6 w/ White Top
70 Challenger Convertible - 318 Auto - K5 w/ White Top


Topcat

Federal Track Pak & Super Track pak
Yup pretty rare now.


This is proven hose.

Won't swell and come off.

Currently using this myself.
Cut to length needed.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-MOPAR-Power-Steering-RETURN-HOSE-Plymouth-Dodge-Chry-67-79-383-440-340-Hemi/323796953490?hash=item4b63cd6992:g:NCoAAOSwTgJcnpvz

71383bee

Quote from: Topcat on September 20, 2019, 08:52:51 PM
Federal Track Pak & Super Track pak
Yup pretty rare now.


This is proven hose.

Won't swell and come off.

Currently using this myself.
Cut to length needed.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-MOPAR-Power-Steering-RETURN-HOSE-Plymouth-Dodge-Chry-67-79-383-440-340-Hemi/323796953490?hash=item4b63cd6992:g:NCoAAOSwTgJcnpvz

Thanks Topcat.  Unfortunately that's not the one I'm after.  I'm looking for the pressure feed hose. 
73 Challenger Rallye - 340 4 speed - K6 w/ White Top
70 Challenger Convertible - 318 Auto - K5 w/ White Top

Topcat

Quote from: 71383bee on September 23, 2019, 09:12:01 AM
Quote from: Topcat on September 20, 2019, 08:52:51 PM
Federal Track Pak & Super Track pak
Yup pretty rare now.


This is proven hose.

Won't swell and come off.

Currently using this myself.
Cut to length needed.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-MOPAR-Power-Steering-RETURN-HOSE-Plymouth-Dodge-Chry-67-79-383-440-340-Hemi/323796953490?hash=item4b63cd6992:g:NCoAAOSwTgJcnpvz

Thanks Topcat.  Unfortunately that's not the one I'm after.  I'm looking for the pressure feed hose.





Unobtanium... Been looking for eons it seems.

There is no accurate repro I've ever come across...yet.

71383bee

Quote from: Topcat on September 23, 2019, 09:07:12 PM
Quote from: 71383bee on September 23, 2019, 09:12:01 AM
Quote from: Topcat on September 20, 2019, 08:52:51 PM
Federal Track Pak & Super Track pak
Yup pretty rare now.


This is proven hose.

Won't swell and come off.

Currently using this myself.
Cut to length needed.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-MOPAR-Power-Steering-RETURN-HOSE-Plymouth-Dodge-Chry-67-79-383-440-340-Hemi/323796953490?hash=item4b63cd6992:g:NCoAAOSwTgJcnpvz

Thanks Topcat.  Unfortunately that's not the one I'm after.  I'm looking for the pressure feed hose.





Unobtanium... Been looking for eons it seems.

There is no accurate repro I've ever come across...yet.

Yeah that is what I'm afraid of.  mine is pretty worn! 
73 Challenger Rallye - 340 4 speed - K6 w/ White Top
70 Challenger Convertible - 318 Auto - K5 w/ White Top


Cuda_mark

Quote from: 71383bee on September 24, 2019, 08:10:18 AM
Quote from: Topcat on September 23, 2019, 09:07:12 PM
Quote from: 71383bee on September 23, 2019, 09:12:01 AM
Quote from: Topcat on September 20, 2019, 08:52:51 PM
Federal Track Pak & Super Track pak
Yup pretty rare now.


This is proven hose.

Won't swell and come off.

Currently using this myself.
Cut to length needed.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-MOPAR-Power-Steering-RETURN-HOSE-Plymouth-Dodge-Chry-67-79-383-440-340-Hemi/323796953490?hash=item4b63cd6992:g:NCoAAOSwTgJcnpvz

Thanks Topcat.  Unfortunately that's not the one I'm after.  I'm looking for the pressure feed hose.





Unobtanium... Been looking for eons it seems.

There is no accurate repro I've ever come across...yet.

Yeah that is what I'm afraid of.  mine is pretty worn!

I've been looking for a pressure hose for my HEMI recreation with federal pump and power steering cooler for over a year now. No luck yet.

71383bee

I have the stock one I believe.  I'd be happy to donate it to someone if they can make a new one!
73 Challenger Rallye - 340 4 speed - K6 w/ White Top
70 Challenger Convertible - 318 Auto - K5 w/ White Top

Burdar

Any hydraulic shop should be able to crimp new hose onto the original ends.  The hose may not look like a factory hose but you'd at least have a new hose that fits.

Topcat

Quote from: Cuda_mark on September 24, 2019, 12:12:33 PM
Quote from: 71383bee on September 24, 2019, 08:10:18 AM
Quote from: Topcat on September 23, 2019, 09:07:12 PM
Quote from: 71383bee on September 23, 2019, 09:12:01 AM
Quote from: Topcat on September 20, 2019, 08:52:51 PM
Federal Track Pak & Super Track pak
Yup pretty rare now.


This is proven hose.

Won't swell and come off.

Currently using this myself.
Cut to length needed.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-MOPAR-Power-Steering-RETURN-HOSE-Plymouth-Dodge-Chry-67-79-383-440-340-Hemi/323796953490?hash=item4b63cd6992:g:NCoAAOSwTgJcnpvz

Thanks Topcat.  Unfortunately that's not the one I'm after.  I'm looking for the pressure feed hose.





Unobtanium... Been looking for eons it seems.

There is no accurate repro I've ever come across...yet.

Yeah that is what I'm afraid of.  mine is pretty worn!

I've been looking for a pressure hose for my HEMI recreation with federal pump and power steering cooler for over a year now. No luck yet.





This is the one in particular I'm referencing about.