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Started by cuda hunter, June 12, 2022, 08:16:25 AM

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Skid Row

 ::) right...nothing to see here....move along...

torredcuda

I think this has been pretty well debunked - no arson and only a fraction of the 36,000 plants have burned.
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70 Challenger Lover

Seems like a reasonable question/concern to me. Even if it is well within statistical probabilities and not part of something larger, it's always fair to bring something up for honest discussion. Not all conspiracy theories are BS. Some are actually legitimate issues that need further examination. Not taking people seriously when serious questions are posed actually serves to divide us even more as a nation. And some do benefit from this separation.

What I find alarming more than the fires themselves is how many people in our country are quick to accept whatever their favorite news source tells them. Lately, if anyone dares go against the grain and and question authority, they are immediately branded as conspiracy theory whack jobs and dismissed without being heard. That's not to say there are "Spectre" like people plotting to destroy civilization as we know it but it's naive to think there aren't people, corporations and politicians who move public opinion in certain directions for their own financial or political gain. History is filled with examples of this.

This is a very harsh comparison but think about the propaganda German people were told by their trusted leaders  through the 1930s and 40s. An entire civilian populace stuck their heads in the sand and chose to believe there was nothing wrong as their neighbors, friends and colleagues were rounded up and sent away "for their own protection."


7E-Bodies

@FSHTAIL i couldn't have said it better.
1970 Challenger R/T Numbers Matching 440 Auto in F8 Quad Green

FSHTAIL

Quote from: 70vert on June 12, 2022, 11:19:16 AM
First, where did this list come from? I don't see a source.
Assuming it is all factual it is certainly a surprising number but as you ask we don't know the average annual factory fires and/or animal deaths. So maybe it is just typical. And I try to avoid making up background stories of possible reason without all the facts. It seems the primary "winner" in these kind of things are the conspiracy theorists.

Google is your friend.     
Only took about 2 minutes to confirm all of these. 
Discrediting something without doing the research is propaganda in and of itself.   

Facts.      Your reply is just lazy..    no source needed. 

This list is a little outdated as well, there have been 12 more instances since the last on the list.   

What I find odd is left-leaning news outlets don't seem to be covering these things, just a little stations locally where it happens.

You can almost place a bet once you see a fact check on anything that there is some truth behind it nowadays, and what's funny is that's not a conspiracy theory, nine times out of ten it seems like it's factual and they just sidestep it to make it partly true or partly false with that verbiage

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-processing-fire/fact-check-food-processing-plant-fires-in-2022-are-not-part-of-a-conspiracy-to-trigger-u-s-food-shortages-idUSL2N2WW2CY
1973 BS23H Cuda' 340/TKX 5 speed (70 AAR clone-ish)

7E-Bodies

@FSHTAIL we are on fairly identical wavelengths. Hence my "liking" your comments. I'd only differ in that google is not our friend. It's heavily filtered, tracked and rearranged in my findings. I've switched to using Brave as a search tool. Also, I don't listen to ANY MSM even at the local news level. Your research on these fires is spot on. The rabbit hole runs deep. As a newly retired power grid protection guy (look up Protective Relay Technician or Power Grid Relay Tech), I could drop a few hints that would have your naysayers digging bunkers and stockpiling candles. Stay awake, brother...and keep rolling with the punches.
1970 Challenger R/T Numbers Matching 440 Auto in F8 Quad Green

JH27N0B

Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of forwarding around stories they see on social media or online.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mob-lynches-man-sets-him-on-fire-over-social-media-accusations/ar-AAYpoe4?li=BBnbfcL


70 Challenger Lover

Quote from: JH27N0B on June 13, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of forwarding around stories they see on social media or online.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mob-lynches-man-sets-him-on-fire-over-social-media-accusations/ar-AAYpoe4?li=BBnbfcL

Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of looking the other way and pretending all is fine even when something doesn't seem quite right.

FSHTAIL

#23
I just call any search "Google" because everybody knows what that is, duck duck go is my usual go to when searching for things, although that's somewhat changing, there are others.
I know exactly what google is..

Our grid can hardly handle what we have, if just 5% of our vehicles went electric, imagine a warm summer night, everyones a/c is spinning/pumping away..     EV charging as well...
We will soon have new excuses for not being able to get to work.....     sorry, power went out, have no charge..
Electricity prices will skyrocket..   

Quote from: 7E-Bodies on June 13, 2022, 11:48:09 AM
@FSHTAIL we are on fairly identical wavelengths. Hence my "liking" your comments. I'd only differ in that google is not our friend. It's heavily filtered, tracked and rearranged in my findings. I've switched to using Brave as a search tool. Also, I don't listen to ANY MSM even at the local news level. Your research on these fires is spot on. The rabbit hole runs deep. As a newly retired power grid protection guy (look up Protective Relay Technician or Power Grid Relay Tech), I could drop a few hints that would have your naysayers digging bunkers and stockpiling candles. Stay awake, brother...and keep rolling with the punches.
1973 BS23H Cuda' 340/TKX 5 speed (70 AAR clone-ish)


MKA

Quote from: JH27N0B on June 13, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of forwarding around stories they see on social media or online.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mob-lynches-man-sets-him-on-fire-over-social-media-accusations/ar-AAYpoe4?li=BBnbfcL

Let's not forget pizzagate and the kid who "got some bad intel" after entering a pizza store with an ar15 to save the kids

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689/pizzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison


70 Challenger Lover

Quote from: MKA on June 13, 2022, 05:12:20 PM
Quote from: JH27N0B on June 13, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of forwarding around stories they see on social media or online.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mob-lynches-man-sets-him-on-fire-over-social-media-accusations/ar-AAYpoe4?li=BBnbfcL

Let's not forget pizzagate and the kid who "got some bad intel" after entering a pizza store with an ar15 to save the kids


https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/22/533941689/pizzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-4-years-in-prison

I don't think anyone is suggesting folks run off half cocked based on things they hear or read. But to turn a blind eye to things you hear because it wasn't vetted by cable news is equally dangerous. Media sources are just corporations like any other. Their sole purpose is to turn a profit.

If Exxon bought and became the parent company of CNN, would you still trust them as your news source? Exxon at least has government oversight and regulation. Media does not. They can ignore the stories they want, cover things in greater detail if they choose, leave out relevant information to paint a different picture. And of course they bring in "experts" to discuss their personal opinions.

Remember this laughable moment?

MKA

Quote from: 70 Challenger Lover on June 13, 2022, 12:43:04 PM
Quote from: JH27N0B on June 13, 2022, 11:54:09 AM
Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of forwarding around stories they see on social media or online.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/mob-lynches-man-sets-him-on-fire-over-social-media-accusations/ar-AAYpoe4?li=BBnbfcL

Here is an extreme example of what can happen when people do the "public service" of looking the other way and pretending all is fine even when something doesn't seem quite right.

You mean the people that blindly follow a nationalistic leader or movement who plays to their fears of other people and their differences?   A leader that tells white nationalists to stand down and stand by?    That repeats the lies until they become truths?   

This country has problems and if we focus on our core values and elect officials that share those values  and talk policy then we can make better choices.   I happen to like Trumps largest (arguable)  policy decision on China.  We need more tariffs and less business in China.  Not sure about the bromance with Putin but when he started making cat calls to white nationalistic and nazi parties, forget it.  I don't care about his policies.   The man has no values.  Only what gets him elected.  Kind of like these stories.  They have no value.  Only what gets you to listen.

John McCain was a war hero remind me again why Trump didn't like him?

FSHTAIL

MKA,

I'm guessing your talking about the Proud Boys?   What does race have so do with anything?   Not everyone in the Proud Boys is white last I saw..
What's wrong with being a nationalist?   Do you know what being a Nationalist is?   You say that as if it's a bad thing?
1973 BS23H Cuda' 340/TKX 5 speed (70 AAR clone-ish)

cuda hunter

I was trying to get some insight into food factories burning. 
Really didn't figure on politics getting into it.

So, I'll just steer this back in the correct direction.  We are not allowed to talk politics here. My purpose was not that. 

Can we talk about the list of 100 food processors that have burnt up? 
My family needs to eat three meals a day in order to not be stunted little kids that eat nothing but rice. 

Have there been as many burnings or closures in the past that anyone can recall?
Something like 9 a month or 2 a week for the past year? 

Food....

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