At the pizza party Saturday night,
@Spikedog08 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/4cruzin_11) started discussing ideas for the 2020 Carlisle Chrysler Nationals, during which we'll be celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the E-body. Now as usual when Dave talks, no one really listened... But eventually @Cuda Cody (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cuda-cody_1) sat down and suddenly we were all ears... :)
Carlisle 2020 is a huge opportunity for E-Bodies.org to shine, and we all think it's a year we should make unforgettable. There's a lot of details that we need to iron out, and some of these are items that my wife and I try to organize, like dinner reservations and hang-out spots. I'm also going to try to make sure that the Facebook page, which can sometimes operate as a separate entity from the forums - is better aware of what is happening and when.
So let's discuss the big points of our usual schedule and see what we can come up with!
1) Hotel:
This year we tried a new hotel for the group, and there were some pros and some notable cons. First, a lot of folks had less-than-satisfactory rooms, myself included. Our clothing and bedding that we brought home all wreaks of cigarettes and mold. Our room was frankly disgusting. Some folks had nicer rooms with more modern features, but ours was definitely on the older side of things. The staff was very disorganized, with many folks being told their reservations had been lost or deleted, and while everyone did eventually get a room, some folks had to wait as the housekeeping staff was still cleaning rooms on Thursday as late as 7pm!! When a hand-vote was taken to revisit the hotel in 2020, not a single person chose to revisit the Park Inn in 2020. Now, if that's the case, we have to decide where we want to stay, which of course means deciding on a comfortable, average rate for everyone. And of course I realize some folks are just going to keep doing what they normally do on their own and that's fine, but if you're not hanging out with the club in the evenings, you're really missing out on a lot of fun!!
2) Dinner:
This year we also tried a new restaurant. It wasn't as far off the beaten path as I thought it would be, and it was actually a pretty pleasant experience, I thought. Our food came out fairly quick, with one table being served slightly sooner than the other. Still, I felt everything was served hot and in a timely fashion overall, with two members (that I know of) a little disappointed in the quality of the steak they ordered - one had a lot of gristle and inedible portions, while another ordered medium-well and definitely got medium-rare. That I know of however, no one else was disappointed in the service or speed of the restaurant. The food quality however was B-grade. Not bad, but also not quite as nice as the Dodge City restaurant we normally visit.
The Harrisburg area however is exploding with new restaurants, breweries, and all sorts of eating venues, so there's no shortage of options here. Dodge City is one of our favorite places to visit but can't host much more than 36 people in a dedicated party. The Roadhouse Cafe we went to this year can seat 50-60, easily. Some breweries in the area have private rooms we can book, but they usually require an additional cost, which I was never willing to push to the club members.
Another idea that was tossed around Saturday was revisiting the venue my wife and I utilized for our personal, "Decade of Carlisle" dinner in 2017. We booked the AACA Museum in Hershey and had a catered dinner with a free, well-stocked (because I stocked it myself!) bar. It was pretty pricey however, at close to $100 a person if I recall, $70 of which I personally covered. Cody has mentioned that there is some funding available, but obviously we have to know our limits going in. To do something like this also requires a VERY accurate head-count, at least a few weeks in advance - since we have to pre-pay by the person. That could mean that last-minute attendees may not be able to join in the festivities.
3) Lunch
Now the Saturday lunch has pretty much always been chosen by my wife and I, as we present it at no-cost to the club. Some folks usually contribute to help cover costs though and we have always appreciated it. My ONLY concern for 2020 is that we'll be moving our family in June of that year, so getting ourselves organized and ready to cater in July might be tricky, but I'm sure we can pull it off. Assuming we have a huge crowd though, we might want to do something easier/lighter anyways to keep costs down, but we can worry about that later. I think what'll be most important to us is getting an accurate head-count - we might need something a little more advanced than the poll feature that EBO has available. If anyone has any suggestions or requests for food though, post here!
4) Tent
We had a super-large tent this year, thanks to SpikeDog and Cuda Cody. We had a TON of space to spread out and enjoy ourselves, serve and eat lunch, and just socialize. We had a lot of visitors stop by, and definitely got plenty of attention. Hopefully we can do that again next year, but the best way to make sure that happens is to select "E-bodies.org" as your club affiliation when registering your car(s) for the event. Even if it isn't an E-body (my family had a '56 Coronet and a '19 Durango registered to the club!), every car counts, and it's those numbers that Carlisle Events looks at to determine what size tent we're eligible for.
5) What else?!
The 50th anniversary of the e-body could really bring about some exciting options and events for our club. SpikeDog08 has already been talking to Ed of Carlisle Events to find out where we can support the show and be an integral part of it, so stay tuned to this forum for updates and information, and perhaps even invitations to participate in displays or what-not. But in the meantime, if you have any ideas of how to make 2020 a year to remember, post them below!! Let's make this the Carlisle Chrysler Nationals that puts EBO on the map for good!
:happybday: E-BODIES!
How about name tags ? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
How about something to take with? Some sot of anniversary swag?
Free give-away, but then a purchaseable item? I loved the A12 banners for the Bees and Runners. What does a one-sided banner cost? $45/$50 each, pre-ordered and picked up at Carlisle?
Quote from: anlauto on July 15, 2019, 10:15:15 AM
How about name tags ? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I bought 100 name tags and I think 3 got used . . . :crying:
Quote from: Spikedog08 on July 15, 2019, 11:33:49 AM
Quote from: anlauto on July 15, 2019, 10:15:15 AM
How about name tags ? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I bought 100 name tags and I think 3 got used . . . :crying:
So we have 97 for next year :banana:
Quote from: anlauto on July 15, 2019, 11:37:31 AM
Quote from: Spikedog08 on July 15, 2019, 11:33:49 AM
Quote from: anlauto on July 15, 2019, 10:15:15 AM
How about name tags ? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I bought 100 name tags and I think 3 got used . . . :crying:
So we have 97 for next year :banana:
HAHAH!! Now that was funny...
Of course, those 97 name tags wound up at MY house, so now I have to either remember to bring them next year, or find clever ways to put all of SpikeDog's nicknames on them and paper his house... :)
Spikedog Drools!! :D
As a newbie visiting the tent this year and attending the dinner and the pizza night, I want to thank everyone for making me feel welcome. Keith Millers auto storage (where I store my 70 CUDA and 67 GTX) may be an idea for visiting next year. Keith has his own personal museum there with a mixture of autos. It is really nice and Keith loves showing them.
Guys, having never been to Carlisle, I am making a commitment right now to attend the 2020 show!
Thank you all in advance for all that you do to make that happen and please feel free to call on me for show duty as long as I get time to look around!
Well since I have been thrown under the bus in the thread a couple times thanks to diperboy . . . I guess I will add my :alan2cents: . . .
1). HOTEL: The hotel we stayed at this year had positive and negative aspects to it, rooms were average with some being nicer than others . . The parking area was huge with plenty of room for trailers and all the cars. Also plenty of space for gathering after the show and the pool was decent with a deep and and shallow end . . Not typical for a hotel. I had an issue when returning from the show on Friday discovering that the door to my room was left open by the maids. Nothing was missing but . . . Still that fact remains. When we compare the new hotel to the old Capital Inn (Comfort Inn), they are similar and I could get rooms way cheaper at the old motel . . . $79 for Thursday and $89 for Friday and Saturday if booked in Advance. Now if you are looking for something a little nicer, there are more hotels within walking distance that are newer and nicer. Holiday InnExpress and Fairfield Inn is right there and although more money, certainly nicer than the Capital Inn.
2). DINNER: The problem next year is that since it is the 50 year of the ebody, I expect we will have more than average attendance . . So I assume that Dodge City is out. I think booking a private room somewhere is not out of the question as long as the cost is not exorbitant. The venue we had this year was fine and certainly auto related with car parts mounted on the walls . . . But as stated, food was average. This topic will need to be researched more . . .
3) LUNCH: Many years ago, I started bringing a small grill and offering lunch to all in the tent that I supplied for the group. Viperboy and Ashley have done a wonderful job supplying lunch for all and the pulled pork this year was very delicious . . Maybe next year peanut butter and jelly will be appropriate . . . I’m sure we can come up with something that will work.
4) TENT: This year we had 36 members registered under the ebodies.org club name, certainly the most we have ever had. I assume we will beat that number this year . . . back in 2002 or something like that, Lemonboy69 was the first to mention we could get a club tent but no one was willing to flip for the cost. I contacted Carlisle Events and covered the cost so we all would have a place to camp and get out of the sun. This year we did get enough members sign up to get a free tent but the upgrade to the extra large tent was $260. Seems like a lot for a tent but sure did give us some space and we used it all.
5). Other activities . . We try to plan fun activities for the group but sometimes everyone is so tired from then heat and the show, all they want to do is go to the hotel and chill in the pool or sit in the lot and relax. I worry that a large schedule may be too much?
I am certainly open to assist with whatever so let’s plan a great weekend for all. I have also noticed that it appear that the show is now Thursday, Friday and Saturday so I may come in on Wednesday next year and leave Sunday with everyone else.
1) I'm really not picky about what Hotel location we choose. As you said, there is the good and the bad. The Park Inn parking lot was HUGENORMOUS. We did find a spot to hang out, so that was good.
The old location that we always stayed at worked too, but I would not stay at the Capital Inn again(just use the back parking lot for our get togethers). That place needs a major reno. The Holiday Inn Express across the street was real nice in my opinion.
2) Dinner. I would cool my heels on that one a while. We might have a big turn out, then maybe a repeat of this year. The Roadhouse Cafe was nice. It didn't take 3 hours to eat dinner. Just make a mental note not to order steak. It might come to you still mooing. :rolleyes:
4) Tent. It was definitely worth paying for the upgrade. Even with the bigger tent, I'm not sure how many more people we could fit under there. If we can get the widebody tent again, then go for it.
Quote from: MEK-Dangerous on July 17, 2019, 01:14:22 PM
1) I'm really not picky about what Hotel location we choose. As you said, there is the good and the bad. The Park Inn parking lot was HUGENORMOUS. We did find a spot to hang out, so that was good.
The old location that we always stayed at worked too, but I would not stay at the Capital Inn again(just use the back parking lot for our get togethers). That place needs a major reno. The Holiday Inn Express across the street was real nice in my opinion.
2) Dinner. I would cool my heels on that one a while. We might have a big turn out, then maybe a repeat of this year. The Roadhouse Cafe was nice. It didn't take 3 hours to eat dinner. Just make a mental note not to order steak. It might come to you still mooing. :rolleyes: Apparently you aren't a fan?.. I prefer less vs more.... At least if it's undercooked you can have it thrown back of the fire for a few minutes... Once it's over done it's done...
4) Tent. It was definitely worth paying for the upgrade. Even with the bigger tent, I'm not sure how many more people we could fit under there. If we can get the widebody tent again, then go for it.
Oh, what town are these hotels in? Carlisle? Harrisburg?
It'd be a dream to have my 70 RT done by then, even tough it's a goal. I'd be lucky if my vinyl top from SMS shows up by then. I'd still love to go as I missed it the last two years.
1) I agree that there will be a bigger turnout next year being the 50th anniversary. We are planning a group trip from Ontario which could bump next year's numbers by 5-10. I don't know if anyone from Ontario was there this year. I'll have a better idea after Moparfest.
2) Other activities: I'm not sure how necessary this is. For me the weekend is about hanging out with group members. Also, I did 2 days of a 4 day cruise in June and by late afternoon people just wanted to veg at the hotel. Most, if any, didn't go to the evening car show that was planned each day.
3) Tent: Once we get an idea of numbers next year we can decide how big of a tent we need. I'm sure if you pass the hat at Saturday lunch, when most people are present, you'll get enough to cover the tent cost.
4) I question the value of doing a meal somewhere. In that setting, you get two hours of conversation with those in your immediate setting area. A parking lot party is much more conducive to mingling. Perhaps we should get a meal catered in. :dunno: The only potential issue is rain.
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on July 17, 2019, 02:48:56 PM
Quote from: MEK-Dangerous on July 17, 2019, 01:14:22 PM
1) I'm really not picky about what Hotel location we choose. As you said, there is the good and the bad. The Park Inn parking lot was HUGENORMOUS. We did find a spot to hang out, so that was good.
The old location that we always stayed at worked too, but I would not stay at the Capital Inn again(just use the back parking lot for our get togethers). That place needs a major reno. The Holiday Inn Express across the street was real nice in my opinion.
2) Dinner. I would cool my heels on that one a while. We might have a big turn out, then maybe a repeat of this year. The Roadhouse Cafe was nice. It didn't take 3 hours to eat dinner. Just make a mental note not to order steak. It might come to you still mooing. :rolleyes: Apparently you aren't a fan?.. I prefer less vs more.... At least if it's undercooked you can have it thrown back of the fire for a few minutes... Once it's over done it's done...
4) Tent. It was definitely worth paying for the upgrade. Even with the bigger tent, I'm not sure how many more people we could fit under there. If we can get the widebody tent again, then go for it.
Oh, what town are these hotels in? Carlisle? Harrisburg?
The Park Inn is in Mechanicsburg and the other hotels are in New Cumberland . . I think the Park Inn was about 10 min closer and no toll road . .
Cody we need a countdown clock....I'm having withdrawals :crazytalk:
I've never attended Carlisle, but I am making it a priority for 2020! How about we hire a professional Videographer & Photographer to capture the weekend for us to provide a professional photo AND video history of the event for the e-bodies.org event at Carlisle!?
And those who are attending who wish to obtain a copy of both could put up a few bucks to contribute towards the Videographer and Photographers fee...
I've used a professional Videographer & Photographer numerous times for the Bay Area Classic Mopar Cruises events I coordinate here in California, and all the participants absolutely love it!
That way, we can enjoy the event and not worry about if we got enough pictures or videos; it will be done for us and professionally edited!
I'll attach 2 of the most recent videos we had created for our Mopar cruises/events, just to give you all an idea of what could be created for us at Carlisle!
Quote from: blown motor on July 17, 2019, 07:45:46 PM
1) I agree that there will be a bigger turnout next year being the 50th anniversary. We are planning a group trip from Ontario which could bump next year's numbers by 5-10. I don't know if anyone from Ontario was there this year. I'll have a better idea after Moparfest.
2) Other activities: I'm not sure how necessary this is. For me the weekend is about hanging out with group members. Also, I did 2 days of a 4 day cruise in June and by late afternoon people just wanted to veg at the hotel. Most, if any, didn't go to the evening car show that was planned each day.
3) Tent: Once we get an idea of numbers next year we can decide how big of a tent we need. I'm sure if you pass the hat at Saturday lunch, when most people are present, you'll get enough to cover the tent cost.
4) I question the value of doing a meal somewhere. In that setting, you get two hours of conversation with those in your immediate setting area. A parking lot party is much more conducive to mingling. Perhaps we should get a meal catered in. :dunno: The only potential issue is rain.
Hi Murray! :wave:
I don't think we're looking to add more "events" for the club to the Carlisle weekend - just making sure that the things we DO decide to do are the BEST things we can do and are things the members will enjoy the most. If, for example, everyone agrees they want to return to the car museum we rented out in 2017, then I think Cody, Dave and I can put together a plan to make it work. If people decide they'd rather do their own dinners so they can spend more time in the hotel parking lot, then by all means, we can make that adjustment.
I agree that the club dinner can be reorganized a million different ways - things have changed a good bit in that area and there are lots of options now. I've even considered having a catered dinner at a hotel, such as in a conference room (trying to cater outside is tricky at best, especially in a lot that we don't have 100% control of). My original idea in 2017 was to cater a dinner at the museum in the parking lot, until they said, "Oh no - you can just have your dinner inside by all the cars!" Well WORKS FOR ME!!! :D
The ONLY issue we've frequently seen with the hotel festivities is that some folks just want to stick with what they know - they don't book where everyone else does because they've found a hotel they're comfortable with and they book it year after year. Those folks rarely come to the "main" hotel to hang out with everyone (that used to happen, but not so much anymore for some reason.) That's been the best thing about the club lunch on Saturday - it tends to get a HUGE crowd under that tent for about an hour. We love it.
e-body70 - the videographer is a cool idea but I have to imagine it's kinda pricey, and since Carlisle is SO huge and members kinda tend to wander off on their own frequently, I dunno how well that would work for this particular show...
Anyways, keep the ideas coming!
The Videographer fee is surprisingly not too expensive, especially if we get a group of us interested and pay towards the fee! I'm sure it depends on what Videographer is contacted, as everyone has their own prices. But, the guy I used charges only $350 (this includes a day of filming and all the editing).
For example, lets say we get 25 people interested for a videographer, that's just $14 per person, and you get a professionally edited video of the e-body section and whatever else the group wants into the video.
Just a thought to float around for the group
Awesome, now I have something to look at every day... :yes:
Let's see how long it takes Alan to notice... :D :popcorn:
Quote from: anlauto on July 18, 2019, 11:37:01 AM
Awesome, now I have something to look at every day... :yes:
Yeah although they say the show is Friday, Saturday and Sunday, it appears that a lot of spectators are going on Thursday as well . . Sunday is more of a travel day . .
I've always wanted to attend this show but being on the wrong side of the country makes it tough. In talking with the wife just now, I learned that one of her best friends just moved to Carlisle last year and bought a house. She's now trying to talk me into the trip next year so I can do all the cool show stuff every day while she hangs out with her friend. How's that for good luck?
You gotta do it!!!! :banana: You will have a blast!
Quote from: 70 Challenger Lover on July 18, 2019, 04:45:44 PM
I've always wanted to attend this show but being on the wrong side of the country makes it tough. In talking with the wife just now, I learned that one of her best friends just moved to Carlisle last year and bought a house. She's now trying to talk me into the trip next year so I can do all the cool show stuff every day while she hangs out with her friend. How's that for good luck?
As mentioned earlier this was my first time making it to Carlisle and before lunch on Saturday I had already registered for next year!
I like the idea of having a collectible to sell or giveaway. I would love a 50 years of E Body banner to hang in the garage or bar!
As far as a fit crew goes thats a cool way to make a keepsake for the group and makes for a great marketing tool. Next year I am going to being all of my equipment and will try and put something together. I have been thinking about how to capture the entire show in a video since I got there on Friday.
Also I am trying to figure out how to drive my 'cuda over next year and I think have a solution I just need someone to buy a kidney and the Hellephant to go back on sale! Just kidding unless someone wants to buy a kidney. I have found a multipoint EFI system for BB Chryslers that I plan on trying out, it should make a fun winter project.
Thanks to everyone for making my first to so AWEOME and I am looking forward to seeing everyone in a year!
Quote from: Yourpar on July 21, 2019, 02:27:37 PM
As mentioned earlier this was my first time making it to Carlisle and before lunch on Saturday I had already registered for next year!
I like the idea of having a collectible to sell or giveaway. I would love a 50 years of E Body banner to hang in the garage or bar!
As far as a fit crew goes thats a cool way to make a keepsake for the group and makes for a great marketing tool. Next year I am going to being all of my equipment and will try and put something together. I have been thinking about how to capture the entire show in a video since I got there on Friday.
Also I am trying to figure out how to drive my 'cuda over next year and I think have a solution I just need someone to buy a kidney and the Hellephant to go back on sale! Just kidding unless someone wants to buy a kidney. I have found a multipoint EFI system for BB Chryslers that I plan on trying out, it should make a fun winter project.
Thanks to everyone for making my first to so AWEOME and I am looking forward to seeing everyone in a year!
Heck yeah,
@Yourpar (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/yourpar_1080) !!!! Then we gotta work on your whole "5 posts" thing... ;)
I think you've got a tremendous wealth of information that would benefit this club in a big way. We'd all love to see you around here more often! :)
Sorry though I don't need a kidney yet, but I'm brewing 5 gallons of beer this weekend so I might call dibs on a liver!! :D
Hotel should Probably be figured out soon. Many are already full. I think that should be top priority to sort out ASAP.
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Quote from: ClarkWGrizwald on August 15, 2019, 10:55:01 AM
Hotel should Probably be figured out soon. Many are already full. I think that should be top priority to sort out ASAP.
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They're not full - it's just too early to book reservations for next July. I don't however disagree with you - we need to make a decision here pretty soon.
A club video would be awesome! I'd pitch in on it.
Where we stayin?
Some of you may follow Nick from Nick's Garage on YouTube... We are trying to arrange for him to be at Carlisle with his Kowalski Challenger, and should be doing an episode from this!
I'd love for him to be part of the E-bodies group, and the people from the show are considering a spot inside, but I know Nick would rather be with us in the field...
We should have at least 6-7 E-bodies from Quebec traveling together!
Ben
That's awesome! We used to have caravans to the show . . Many years ago!
There is now a mention on the website about a 50-year Challenger anniversary display:
Dodge Challenger Celebrates 50 Years
Iconic E-Body Hits the Half Century Mark!
Be a part of the 50th anniversary celebration of the Dodge Challenger by bringing yours to the show. We will feature all years of Challengers from 1970 to 2020 in a special indoor display as well as on the Showfield. Classes will be available for all years and we want to see them all at the show! We want to see all available engine options, body styles and colors.
We're looking for some great Challengers restored to O.E. specs but we also want to showcase some with cool stories. We also encourage applications for cars with Old School paint, Day 2 mods and race cars. If you know us, then you know that we love original cars. That includes Survivors as well as cars in "as found" condition. And we're not looking for a building full of Hemi Challengers or even just R/Ts and Rallyes. We want to see some 318s and Slant Sixes in addition to the performance models.
If you have a Challenger that you think should be part of the Featured Vehicle Display...CLICK HERE.
There is also another section on AAR - T/A's
The AAR 'Cuda and Challenger T/A Turn 50 in 2020
Celebrate the 50th anniversary of Mopar's Trans Am cars!
Yes, we have celebrated the AAR & T/A in the past, but this one is going to be huge! This is 50 years of these iconic E-Bodies (and 50 years of the E-Body...and 50 years of the Challenger) and there is only ONE 50th anniversary so we're going to do it big. We'll have an indoor display, outdoor display, tent display, seminars, guests and more. We're even working on some special surprises, too.
An anniversary of this magnitude needs cars...lots of cars! We are looking for AARs and T/As of all colors and options. Of course, we're always looking for cars that are truly unique in some way. If you have an AAR or T/A, you are encouraged to go to www.CarlisleFeatures.com to submit an application. As always, we'll consider any car in any condition – they don't all have to be perfectly restored cars, especially if it has a cool story. We love 'em all; Survivors, race cars, Day 2 cars, Barn Finds, etc.
Even if you're not interested in participating in one of the special displays, you can always participate by registering for the Showfield. We want to make this the largest gathering of Mopar's Trans Am cars EVER but we need your help to do it!
Ben
Ben
This coming year will be amazing! All members should find a way to make it for the ebodies.org club annual meet! We should have a great turnout and certainly a lot of fun!
:bigthumb:
that's great! Glad they are finally pushing the Ebody!