Doesn't seem to be an easy way to get to the oil filter from above. It seems like the power steering pump or the belt are always in the way. Do you guys normally take the belt off? Do you drop part of the K member?
I always took the oil filters off my 383 and my 440 from underneath.
Now if could only figure out a way to do it without oil pouring on the K member and making a mess that would be nice!
Quote from: JH27N0B on April 22, 2023, 04:52:16 PM
I always took the oil filters off my 383 and my 440 from underneath.
Now if could only figure out a way to do it without oil pouring on the K member and making a mess that would be nice!
Do a Google search for Harley Davidson oil filter drain funnel. They have a couple different styles/shapes and are used for the same reason. I would think one of those would work.
Sorry I didn't explain clearly. I tried accessing both from above and underneath. Underneath, the belt and the power steering pump is in the way, as well as the k member.
Thanks, I'll look into that!
Quote from: Poolshark314 on April 22, 2023, 07:01:35 PM
Sorry I didn't explain clearly. I tried accessing both from above and underneath. Underneath, the belt and the power steering pump is in the way, as well as the k member.
Power steering pump seems to be mounted pretty low? Got a picture from above? :huh:
above along with better lit below
I suspect something is wrong with your power steering pump mounting? Never seen one mounted that low before? The belt should be above the filter. Google "1970 dodge challenger belt route with a/c " and click on images to see what I mean?
Quote from: Brads70 on April 22, 2023, 07:59:34 PM
I suspect something is wrong with your power steering pump mounting? Never seen one mounted that low before? The belt should be above the filter. Google "1970 dodge challenger belt route with a/c " and click on images to see what I mean?
Yes my belts are routed much differently. The belt that is interfering is the furthest frontward belt and is on the power steering pump, clutch fan, and crankshaft. The rest of the accessories are on 2 matching belts behind it.
I just found other pictures that mirror my setup
The 440 in my car is a '76 and belt routing is similar to poolsharks. However, I just need to deflect the belt with my finger just a bit to slip the filter in there. I don't remove it or loosen it. I do it from above...and with a QA1 K member the oil mess isn't nearly as bad as with a stock K member.
In your picture it looks like the crank pulley and power steering pully are almost parallel as is the belt almost parallel with the ground plane. Which would place the belt right in the way of the oil filter. Hence my confusion.
Quote from: dodj on April 23, 2023, 04:02:08 AM
The 440 in my car is a '76 and belt routing is similar to poolsharks. However, I just need to deflect the belt with my finger just a bit to slip the filter in there. I don't remove it or loosen it. I do it from above...and with a QA1 K member the oil mess isn't nearly as bad as with a stock K member.
Thanks! Does your belt route above or below your oil filter?
What 440 do you have? I have two of them and on both the oil filter points forward, not towards the tire.
Quote from: blown motor on April 23, 2023, 07:10:52 AM
What 440 do you have? I have two of them and on both the oil filter points forward, not towards the tire.
Later 70s RV 440. The oil filter points forward. It is not mounted in the picture, I just cannot get the oil filter out from the engine bay. Sorry for the confusion
Looks like you need to reroute the transmission line to radiator for clearance?
Quote from: Katfish on April 23, 2023, 10:24:56 AM
Looks like you need to reroute the transmission line to radiator for clearance?
I was thinking the same thing.
The bump out radius in the trans line didn't look right to me. It should be more squared off and not as wide/tall.
Here is an image from inline tube
My belt is routed the same as yours. The pics are from the 440 in my Charger but I doubt it should be any different, it's still a 440 with power steering. I have lots of clearance between the belt and filter. The end of the filter extends past the belt. The third picture shows the position of the bolt in the slot on the power steering pump bracket for tightening the belt. Crazy thought but I'd your belt too long? A shorter belt will pivot the pump upwards. Maybe it has something to do with the pulley sizes which will effect the belt length and ultimately the position of the pump.
Quote from: blown motor on April 23, 2023, 10:38:48 AM
My belt is routed the same as yours. The pics are from the 440 in my Charger but I doubt it should be any different, it's still a 440 with power steering. I have lots of clearance between the belt and filter. The end of the filter extends past the belt. The third picture shows the position of the bolt in the slot on the power steering pump bracket for tightening the belt. Crazy thought but I'd your belt too long? A shorter belt will pivot the pump upwards. Maybe it has something to do with the pulley sizes which will effect the belt length and ultimately the position of the pump.
First picture is from below showing the bolt position to the mounting bracket. Second picture shows the bracket in relation to the block from above. I don't see any other mounting holes in the block for that stud to go, so I just don't see how I could get that mounted higher. Am I missing something or using a different pump and bracket than you guys?
Does this help ID your pump bracket?
https://www.manciniracing.com/postbr2.html
Your bracket is definitely different than mine. Mine extends in under the A/C pump. It doesn't show that well in my third picture above. The red arrows in the pictures below point to the location of the top bolt. It's a very different bracket from yours.
I suspect poolshark has the rv style power steering pump brackets. The brackets look different and it appears to sit lower down towards the filter than a standard automotive bracket.
Might need to remove the belt and pivot the pump up to get the filter out. Then you can decide if its easier to replace the PS brackets or trans cooler lines.
OK. Cut that tie strap holding the trans lines together, loosen line nut at rad, and you should twist line enuf to sqeek out filter and squeeze in new. Save up $ to replace that nonsencical trans line!
Quote from: Poolshark314 on April 23, 2023, 07:07:03 AM
Quote from: dodj on April 23, 2023, 04:02:08 AM
The 440 in my car is a '76 and belt routing is similar to poolsharks. However, I just need to deflect the belt with my finger just a bit to slip the filter in there. I don't remove it or loosen it. I do it from above...and with a QA1 K member the oil mess isn't nearly as bad as with a stock K member.
Thanks! Does your belt route above or below your oil filter?
Belt routes above the filter. Sorry for the slow reply.
Forgot about the thread.
We need a software modification where you get notices/indication at the top of the page that a thread you posted in has a reply. Most other forums I'm involved with have it where you get a little red flag/alarm bell/red dot at the top letting you know. 'cudahunter mentioned it previously but didn't get action. Maybe it's a feature forums pay for?