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Title: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: manycj on May 12, 2017, 11:44:04 AM
I need the hole locations (dimensions) for the V8 emblem on SB Challengers. The 70 fenders I used didn't have the holes. thanks Chris


Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: Cuda Cody on May 12, 2017, 12:22:06 PM
I checked my documents and did not see an engineering drawing for it.  I'll look to see if any of my spare fenders have them, but I don't think they do.
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: 70/6chall on May 12, 2017, 02:52:42 PM
I'm not sure if this will help you, but worth a shot. I realize your looking for exact dimensional location on the fender, instead of an eyeball guess. But I searched my info and could'nt locate anything except pics. Hope maybe someway it might help you.       Thanks Al
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: 70/6chall on May 12, 2017, 02:53:43 PM
Here's another
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: 70/6chall on May 12, 2017, 02:54:35 PM
One more
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: 70/6chall on May 12, 2017, 03:33:43 PM
Ok, this information is from my 1970-71 passenger car factory illustrated parts catalogue supplement, for all Dodge, Plymouth and Chrysler cars. Dated May-Sept. 1970 catalogue # 81-690-0897.
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: 70/6chall on May 12, 2017, 03:35:11 PM
One more,
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: Cuda Cody on May 12, 2017, 05:34:36 PM
Nice photos Al.  Better then I could find.   :clapping:
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: 70/6chall on May 12, 2017, 11:46:59 PM
Thanks Cody, but I'm not even sure if my references will help. What is needed is exact factory reference points and measurements. I'm hoping with what I could find with close-up shots it would give him next to an exact location indication. I do have many factory and non-factory reference books and manuals, Motors,Haynes, Chilton and factory material.      Thanks,  Al
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: cataclysm80 on May 13, 2017, 02:18:16 AM
Emblem placement is different for different years.
The V8 emblem is not located in the same place as the R/T emblem.
The R/T emblem is centered under the Challenger script, while the V8 emblem is pretty much even with the rear most end of the Challenger script.   (under the C on the passenger side, and under the R on the driver's side)


To start off with, here's some pics of the R/T emblem placement.
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: cataclysm80 on May 13, 2017, 02:23:15 AM
Now here's some pics of the V8 emblem.
(If you see an R/T emblem in this position, you're probably looking at a clone car that needed to cover up the V8 fender holes.)

I have measurements for this somewhere.  I think it's on a template stored somewhere, not on my computer.  Sorry, they're not handy at the moment.   I hope this helps anyway.

Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: RUNCHARGER on May 13, 2017, 08:23:58 PM
Cars been gone for more than a year so I can't measure for you. These are the original A-66 fenders though with the original mounting holes.
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: manycj on May 15, 2017, 04:59:42 AM
Thanks guys, the pictures will help a lot.  What I will do is take pictures of my Challenger emblems with a ruler to establish the scale. Then I will be able to scale my picture so that the Challenger emblem is the same size as the pictures you guys supplied. Once that is done it is a matter of printing out the pictured to the correct 1:1 scale and use it as a template for placing the emblems.  When I'm all done, I'll take some measurements of the holes and post it on the hole location thread.

thanks
Chris
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: anlauto on May 15, 2017, 05:03:11 AM
Pretty simple to eye-ball it based on all the above pictures. No one will know if you're 1/8" off  :alan2cents:
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: manycj on May 15, 2017, 05:15:37 AM
I guess I'm picky, but with my luck I will park my car next to another one that has the V8 emblems and  they won't match.  Perhaps my pickiness is for nothing.  Here is a factory original example of R/T emblem placement on a 71 that was on the Hemming's website.




Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: anlauto on May 15, 2017, 05:19:30 AM
Quote from: manycj on May 15, 2017, 05:15:37 AM
I guess I'm picky, but with my luck I will park my car next to another one that has the V8 emblems and  they won't match.  Perhaps my pickiness is for nothing.  Here is a factory original example of R/T emblem placement on a 71 that was on the Hemming's website.

Exactly...so the guy you park beside might be wrong not you !
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: Timbbuc2 on May 15, 2017, 07:55:33 AM
My car has the V-8 on it also, I can measure mine Saturday if you can wait. I have not installed mine yet.
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: manycj on May 15, 2017, 07:59:50 AM
Quote from: Timbbuc2 on May 15, 2017, 07:55:33 AM
My car has the V-8 on it also, I can measure mine Saturday if you can wait. I have not installed mine yet.

thanks I can wait. I still have a bunch of things I need to do before installing emblems.

thanks
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on May 15, 2017, 10:31:27 AM
Quote from: Timbbuc2 on May 15, 2017, 07:55:33 AM
My car has the V-8 on it also, I can measure mine Saturday if you can wait. I have not installed mine yet.

Just a suggestion but this works very well..
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: Cuda Cody on May 15, 2017, 10:33:43 AM
 :o  That's factory original?

http://www.e-bodies.org/Resources/Engineering_Illustrations/Decal_Fender_Challenger.pdf

Quote from: manycj on May 15, 2017, 05:15:37 AM
I guess I'm picky, but with my luck I will park my car next to another one that has the V8 emblems and  they won't match.  Perhaps my pickiness is for nothing.  Here is a factory original example of R/T emblem placement on a 71 that was on the Hemming's website.
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: manycj on May 15, 2017, 10:52:44 AM
Yah it's factory original. here's the article. (sorry I thought it was Hemming's, it's actually HotRod)

http://www.hotrod.com/articles/1971-dodge-challenger-mondays-child/

the car had 1970 front seats, one of the tail moldings are from 1970 the other is from 1971. there are a few other 1970 parts on this 71.



Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: anlauto on May 15, 2017, 01:05:16 PM
Most of that article is BS....The "70 seats" were used half way through the 1971 model year, that's pretty common knowledge....if the vinyl pattern was 70, then I could see it, but they only mention the seat backs and release buttons. The tail light housings won't interchange, etc...etc... :thumbdown:
Title: V-8 Emblem location
Post by: Timbbuc2 on May 21, 2017, 04:39:47 PM
I looked for the original post but couldn't find it. The picture is of the drivers side. I need to drill the passenger side. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: manycj on May 22, 2017, 08:41:11 AM
that help a lot. thank you. -Chris
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: Timbbuc2 on May 22, 2017, 10:52:13 AM
Quote from: manycj on May 22, 2017, 08:41:11 AM
that help a lot. thank you. -Chris
Let me clarify, the 6-3/4" and 4-3/4" is from the edge of the fender, the 2-1/2" is from the fender line.
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on May 22, 2017, 12:41:08 PM
Quote from: Timbbuc2 on May 22, 2017, 10:52:13 AM
Quote from: manycj on May 22, 2017, 08:41:11 AM
that help a lot. thank you. -Chris
Let me clarify, the 6-3/4" and 4-3/4" is from the edge of the fender, the 2-1/2" is from the fender line.

I thought that was pretty clear.... :bradsthumb:
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: manycj on May 31, 2017, 05:11:16 AM
UPDATE: Here's my fenders with the V-8 Emblems installed. I used  4-3/4" and 6-3/4"-ish  from the edge of the fender and 2-1/2" from the fender line on both sides of the car.  The repo emblems have the pins on 2-1/16" centers so the 6-3/4"dimension is more like 6-13/16" for me.  Looks pretty correct based on pictures of other cars I've seen with the V-8 emblems.  Thanks for the help. -Chris
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: Cuda Cody on May 31, 2017, 08:53:49 AM
Looks perfect to me!   :twothumbsup:
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: RUNCHARGER on May 31, 2017, 09:01:11 AM
I agree, that looks great.
Title: Re: Hole location for the Challenger V8 emblem needed.
Post by: Timbbuc2 on June 15, 2017, 12:42:05 PM
That looks good