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Here's a picture of the harness Tommy White, aka The Parts Hound, made for me.  :banana: Connectors may not be 100% correct, but he used all that was available. :worship:

Wow, very nice !!! :twothumbsup: Will he make additional harnesses ??? And is there any contact info for him ??? Looks like he has a quicker turn-around time than M&H has...And knowing he has the ability to make these is a huge plus in the future...

I'm really enjoying this thread, and not to misdirect it but do you know if the Stewart Warner lettering is correct on these?  I have several NOS that are 36".  I wish I knew you were looking for one, I'd be happy to part with these.

Thanks
Tom

Close up

Tom, I'll check my original speedo cable to see if there's any evidence of the script in the area of your pics...To be honest the servo end looks good enough to pass the engine bay inspection...Those cables will be perfect for 99% of anyone needing one...

  Looking at your pic leads to the next set of questions for anyone that can shed some light...The other servo{throttle} cables you have there {cable 14-2-34 in the parts book breakdown} are engine specific for the needed throttle linkage spacing it's calling for 318,383 2bbl and 440, and a 383 4bbl to all have their own part numbers...I know my original is for the 318...So I can provide the measurement/specs for this particular cable...It sure would be nice to know what the differences are between the cables for anyone retrofitting their project...

    Tom, I'm not seeing any evidence of the script or any id markings for that matter on this set of cables...

   I did have time to measure the servo throttle cable here's the specs for the small block 70 cable hopefully this will help someone out in the future..The 8 1/4 "  carb end measurement is fully extended:

Does anyone have a better pic of the carburetor lost motion link ??? I have a pic of the part itself and an old pic of one installed on a 6bbl but it's not the best to see exactly what's going on with these parts...

Here's one from a 440-4 car, and also the cable clamp which is different from small block to big block.

Nice pics.... :bigthumb:...Interesting arrangement on the 440-4 ...Seeing that makes me wonder if the retrofit on the 6bbl I posted actually worked as it should...
   I forgot about the cable clamp being specific to BB and SBs nice addition to the thread...

You know what, after looking further, I think the 440-4 car has the link on backwards.

Backwards & attached to the wrong place.... It's attached to the stud the throttle cable attaches to... It should be on the front edge of the throttle lever like in the picture of the sixpack....

I've made some significant progress with research,details, and the Carlisle parts hunt for the speed control system..
  First up a big thanks to fc7cuda for bringing all the NOS pieces of the puzzle for my system completion ..Thanks a bunch Tom and it was a pleasure meeting you in person..You definitely made the hunt much easier...

   I've spoken with Tommy White {he now offers a 2 pc speed control harness on Ebay} and Bill Evans {Evans wiring} and the general consensus is the early 70 two piece harness{which I've pictured in detail} was at some point superseded to a one piece harness..Considering the rarity of  these harnesses Bill Evans stated he's never held one, but would consider offering them if he could make a pattern from an original...I will be using the original harnesses that I've shown for my project they're just too nice not to use them but I want to make sure others will have the ability to buy them from someone if needed..

   Speaking of the early harnesses I've made what I consider to be a great find for detailing...And for me it's all in the details...
  Thinking initially the tags were too far degraded to serve any useful info I figured I'd give it give it a try and carefully unwrap the original harness tags not knowing what exactly I'd find...
     As luck would have it the two sets of original harnesses yielded the correct part numbers and vendor codes !!!! I had to use a light solvent to get the tags unwrapped from themselves but the procedure paid off...
    I'm in contact with ECS to get these tags made for an offering with their already vast list of great products...
   

   I'll post some pics of the lever's barrel disassembly...I won't be doing a complete tear-down of the lever I'm only taking the barrel off for chroming to bring it up to 100%..
  Speaking of chroming..The chrome plating on the barrel as far as I can tell is just that..Chrome plating..I guess the factory wanted to make sure the finish was durable enough to withstand the constant hand contact...Don't confuse this with other interior parts..Most of the E body interior plastic "chrome" was actually a vacuum metalized finish that was sealed with a clear lacquer{AC dash vents,70 cuda and challenger dash script, etc...}..So even when new all it took was a few cleanings with a harsh chemical and your shiny "chrome" finish was either dull or gone completely...
      Fast forward to 2018, it's a little tougher to find a company that's willing to chrome plate a plastic part...I've sent some info to Paul's chrome plating plastics department to see if they can handle the job...
    If anyone has suggestions on a company doing quality plastic chroming post your suggestions please...

   Anyhow here's the proper way to get the selector barrel off the stalk :
  There's a C clip in a groove under the barrel.. The C clip needs to slide off the plastic body evenly so you don't distort or apply pressure to the selector barrel and crack it...
How that's done is to make sure the open ends of the C clip are facing towards the levers script before removal...This puts the ends 180* from the rear access slot in the plastic body...
     The rear slot gives access to the C clip so you can hook it and pull evenly from front and back working the C clip out under the barrel...I wrapped the plastic body of the lever with scotch tape so the C clip didn't scratch the surface on the way off...
    Once the C clip is off there's another metal spacer directly behind it slide that off as well...
Don't pull the barrel just yet...There's a metal spacer with a spring under it you need to note the orientation of that spring as you take the barrel off in the event that spacer goes with it..
And that will get the selector barrel off the plastic body...If you're going deeper the next step would be to remove the plastic body from the metal stalk requiring you to take the Lever's wiring connector off so the wires will pass through the stalk{which you need to do to get the barrel off anyhow}...
  Take your time and don't think " I'm never finding another one if I break this" while you're doing it like me.. :haha:
 
   

Great thread guys, I look forward to participating when I have some time.

Can you edit the first post to include "N88" in the thread title to help people find it?

Sometime before 2009, I had Tom at M&H make reproduction cruise harnesses for me.
I just dug out an original harness tonight along with the M&H reproduction.
I snapped a pic, but for some reason my phone pics are HUGE and the forum doesn't like them, so I'll have to resize the pic on a computer and post it later.

I think the part numbers were legible on my harness originally, but they might not be anymore.

I'm the person with all the exploded view pics from disassembling a cruise lever.

I still have the NOS box for the cruise throttle cable, and it came with both styles of clamps.
I'm accustomed to looking at small block stuff, and someone originally told me that one of the clamps looked like a big block clamp because they're different, and I believed them, but I've become suspicious that the different style might just be for 1969 and older cars.

I do have a lost motion link around here somewhere.
I've also installed cruise without one and it still worked great.

I've been ordering my cruise speedometer cables through Year One, and they work just fine.  They're probably not OE correct like NOS, but I don't have my cars judged.

We also need to include where the firewall hole gets drilled for cruise on each model, and what the correct bracket screws look like.

I have some nice comparison pics of the different brackets also.

Tav

Hey Tav
  I'll change the title to contain "N88" for an easier search function in the future..

   I know we've discussed the "big block,small block" throttle cable adapter before...Here's something interesting I found at Carlisle this year...70 challenger convertible,383, coded for N88...It had the "big block" adapter...I couldn't catch up with the owner to confirm what parts were original...Obviously some were reconditioned...

Thanks everyone.