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N88 E body Speed/Cruise Control System

Started by screamindriver, July 04, 2018, 06:55:41 PM

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screamindriver

I had time to pull and measure some original components..First up is the two cables...

screamindriver

Next up is the stalk/lever....

screamindriver

I'll post a pic of the servo bracket and brake switch I have on file..Next pic is what I have to work with in it's "pulled from the box" condition...This one obviously has some black paint added at some point...But the interesting thing is the bottom didn't get the recoat and the original black paint on the bracket is quite shiny..More shiny than even the pic would suggest...


1 Wild R/T

Quote from: screamindriver on July 07, 2018, 03:27:31 PM
Next up is the stalk/lever....

I see yours has a white connector, my two real ones did to...

screamindriver

#19
Yes, and the discoloration on the connector isn't from being overheated it's actually the black dye from the harness connector...

  Alan, I'm not sure which cable you need but knowing my original is 36" I found this speedo cable...I snagged one and I'll post some pics comparing the original to this NOS piece when it arrives...It looks like all it needs to be 100% is a firewall grommet change...  https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-1969-73-CHRYSLER-DODGE-PLYMOUTH-UPPER-SPEEDOMETER-CRUISE-CONTROL-CABLE/252512657414?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D52971%26meid%3Df61345cd3e16441f83bf65292b6bd611%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D252512657414%26itm%3D252512657414&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A5842132a-825b-11e8-a2e9-74dbd1801e17%7Cparentrq%3A77d729451640aa1245559663ffed129a%7Ciid%3A1      UPDATE : One of the superseded part numbers for the 36" upper cable is 3592370... I pulled quite a few of these up using that number here's an example and it's got the correct grommet..https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Mopar-1970-73-Chrysler-Imperial-w-cruise-control-upper-speedometer-cable/232767041002?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D52861%26meid%3Dadb860440ab64acb9ca41848a256e755%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D252512657414%26itm%3D232767041002&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

  Here's something interesting I pulled from an NOS cable description about 69-73 "upper" speedo cables :A-bodies used a cable 25" in length; all other cars including full size used one 36" overall in length. The ends are the same all cars.

anlauto

Here's a picture of the harness Tommy White, aka The Parts Hound, made for me.  :banana: Connectors may not be 100% correct, but he used all that was available. :worship:
I've taught you everything you know....but I haven't taught you everything I know....
Check out my web site ....  Alan Gallant Automotive Restoration

screamindriver

Wow, very nice !!! :twothumbsup: Will he make additional harnesses ??? And is there any contact info for him ??? Looks like he has a quicker turn-around time than M&H has...And knowing he has the ability to make these is a huge plus in the future...


fc7cuda

I'm really enjoying this thread, and not to misdirect it but do you know if the Stewart Warner lettering is correct on these?  I have several NOS that are 36".  I wish I knew you were looking for one, I'd be happy to part with these.

Thanks
Tom

fc7cuda


screamindriver

Tom, I'll check my original speedo cable to see if there's any evidence of the script in the area of your pics...To be honest the servo end looks good enough to pass the engine bay inspection...Those cables will be perfect for 99% of anyone needing one...

  Looking at your pic leads to the next set of questions for anyone that can shed some light...The other servo{throttle} cables you have there {cable 14-2-34 in the parts book breakdown} are engine specific for the needed throttle linkage spacing it's calling for 318,383 2bbl and 440, and a 383 4bbl to all have their own part numbers...I know my original is for the 318...So I can provide the measurement/specs for this particular cable...It sure would be nice to know what the differences are between the cables for anyone retrofitting their project...

screamindriver

    Tom, I'm not seeing any evidence of the script or any id markings for that matter on this set of cables...

   I did have time to measure the servo throttle cable here's the specs for the small block 70 cable hopefully this will help someone out in the future..The 8 1/4 "  carb end measurement is fully extended:


screamindriver

Does anyone have a better pic of the carburetor lost motion link ??? I have a pic of the part itself and an old pic of one installed on a 6bbl but it's not the best to see exactly what's going on with these parts...

EV2RTSE

Here's one from a 440-4 car, and also the cable clamp which is different from small block to big block.

screamindriver

Nice pics.... :bigthumb:...Interesting arrangement on the 440-4 ...Seeing that makes me wonder if the retrofit on the 6bbl I posted actually worked as it should...
   I forgot about the cable clamp being specific to BB and SBs nice addition to the thread...

EV2RTSE

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You know what, after looking further, I think the 440-4 car has the link on backwards.