Hi all. Time to start a new build thread, this is my personal ride, purchased it about 6 years ago from Sacramento CA. Originally 318 car F8/F8 with white top. Car was a roller, so I decided to change the whole drivetrain. 383+727+83/4 was an option for GC´s so my choice was pretty easy. Car was extremely solid, we changed driver side quarter panel and trunk extension because of old collision damage. We also repaired trunk floor which is still mostly original. Paint job was done about a year ago and car is going slowly together at the moment.
Nice
Wow, very nice. :twothumbsup: Finland? I think I need to see that one in person some day. 8)
Nice so far! Is it going to look like a stock GC when done? That's the way I like them.
Very nice. How hard is it to find parts there?
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on February 03, 2018, 07:56:22 AM
Nice so far! Is it going to look like a stock GC when done? That's the way I like them.
Thanks - yes, it will look like a stock when done.
Quote from: Cuda_mark on February 03, 2018, 08:16:45 AM
Very nice. How hard is it to find parts there?
Thanks - It´s hard for us living far away, basically all stuff comes from U.S and Canada.
Cowl black out. No tape line here.
Quote from: GCragtop on February 03, 2018, 08:42:59 AM
Cowl black out. No tape line here.
Not meaning to be to critical but F8 shouldn't receive the blackout treatment....
I believe F8 does, and that's a fantastic job ! I just did the B7 car in my shop with the fenders and hood on....not as easy....
Vey nice car! Love F8. According to engineer drawings F8 and B7 did not receive the blackout treatment.
Yes, it was there originally.
Yes I read that sometimes assembly line workers simply forgot or did not know and applied the blackout. As long as you have original pics which you have you are good to go with the blackout. :bigthumb:
Car has grille black out and pinch weld black out as well. This is early built car, perhaps that´s the reason.
the drawing was created 2/5/69
the note #1 (omitting the requirement for black paint on TX9, EB7, EF8) was added 8/14/69 - it took some time for changes to get implemented on the line & there are employees/cars known to not follow directions/norm
how early is the GC? can you share the fender tag info?
Quote from: GCragtop on February 03, 2018, 12:55:35 PM
Yes, it was there originally.
That's enough proof for me :worship: :bravo:
Quote from: 6bblgt on February 03, 2018, 07:18:00 PM
the drawing was created 2/5/69
the note #1 (omitting the requirement for black paint on TX9, EB7, EF8) was added 8/14/69 - it took some time for changes to get implemented on the line & there are employees/cars known to not follow directions/norm
how early is the GC? can you share the fender tag info?
Original tag is long gone, but I have a BS. Do you know when they actually started production?
IMO your car was the 3,436th "job" started on assembly Line #1 for the 1970 model year at the Hamtramck, MI assembly plant.
I've seen a document for the '71 model year that the first job completed off the line was planned for ~8/11 - I'll "ASSUME" 1970 model year was similar :dunno:
Did the GC still have its original door sticker? if so, what's the date - how about the date off the k-frame or wiper motor
I don't have a specific unit number split between August/September assembly Line #1 - I have a large 2,000 car gap between 3263 & 5206
https://forum.e-bodies.org/vin-fender-tag-build-sheet-and-date-codes/13/actual-production-date-vs-scheduled-production-date/810/
the "P6" premium vinyl '70 Gran Coupe interiors are my favorite e-body interiors :yes:
Quote from: 6bblgt on February 03, 2018, 11:46:43 PM
IMO your car was the 3,436th "job" started on assembly Line #1 for the 1970 model year at the Hamtramck, MI assembly plant.
I've seen a document for the '71 model year that the first job completed off the line was planned for ~8/11 - I'll "ASSUME" 1970 model year was similar :dunno:
Did the GC still have its original door sticker? if so, what's the date - how about the date off the k-frame or wiper motor
I don't have a specific unit number split between August/September assembly Line #1 - I have a large 2,000 car gap between 3263 & 5206
https://forum.e-bodies.org/vin-fender-tag-build-sheet-and-date-codes/13/actual-production-date-vs-scheduled-production-date/810/
Yep, sticker is still there. 8-1969
Quote from: 6bblgt on February 03, 2018, 11:51:46 PM
the "P6" premium vinyl '70 Gran Coupe interiors are my favorite e-body interiors :yes:
I like it too, but sad that no green panels available/extremely hard to find.
Quote from: GCragtop on February 04, 2018, 03:12:24 AM
Quote from: 6bblgt on February 03, 2018, 11:51:46 PM
the "P6" premium vinyl '70 Gran Coupe interiors are my favorite e-body interiors :yes:
I like it too, but sad that no green panels available/extremely hard to find.
How are your rear interior panels? Are they usable?
Production of the 1970 e-bodies started in Aug 1969.
IIRC some of the pilot and cars used for promo/photo shoots or body in white cars were built very early August (1st week). I'm sure Dan (6bblgt) can confirm this.
Another note, Many of the early production e-bodies from Aug & Sept 1969 have buildsheets printed on the 1969 buildsheet and NOT the revised version for the 1970 model.
Interesting that this car uses the 1970 builsheet considering it's build date of Aug 29th
"pilot" cars = PRE-PRODUCTION built months/weeks before model year production started at the assembly plants
"promo" cars = dealer announcement meeting show cars, scheduled 801 for CAN. & 802 for US. but built mid-August
the use of "left over" 1969 broadcast sheet forms occurred mid-September '69 production thru the third week of October
Sweet GC. That will be a different and beautiful car :bigthumb:
Quote from: Cuda_mark on February 04, 2018, 07:12:30 AM
Quote from: GCragtop on February 04, 2018, 03:12:24 AM
Quote from: 6bblgt on February 03, 2018, 11:51:46 PM
the "P6" premium vinyl '70 Gran Coupe interiors are my favorite e-body interiors :yes:
I like it too, but sad that no green panels available/extremely hard to find.
How are your rear interior panels? Are they usable?
They are not usable. I have one pair of white ones too, but not good enough for this car.
Doors, fenders, etc assembled, looks like a car again.
Grille black out done too, turned out pretty nice.
You are doing a great job! I love your car....unique and very cool! :bravo:
Not so often flat hoods on these cars anymore.
Quote from: GCragtop on February 09, 2018, 07:52:27 AM
Not so often flat hoods on these cars anymore.
I'm restoring Erik's 70 Barracuda convertible and his will have the A22 front and rear elastomeric bumpers which I think would look fantastic with the original flat hood....and that was the plan, up until last week when he decided to ditch the flat hood in favour of the two scoop hood and a shaker hood to hang on the wall for a raining day....Erik just couldn't find it to paint all three hoods...
I sold my Rallye hood and was able to locate flat one from here, its w/o crumple zones.
Here w/o paint - flat hoods rocks :)
Looks really clean; nice job stripping the paint off. :bradsthumb:
Quote from: ErikR on February 14, 2018, 09:27:52 AM
So many 70 only details to obsess over
So true...when I started my restoration, I had no idea just how many one year details there were. Rear shock holes, crumple zones, mirror bases, the list goes on and on.
I love bare metal shots.
That's looking awesome, nice work.
What's the difference with a '70 only flat hood?
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Quote from: Kewl_Wheels on February 22, 2018, 02:40:50 PM
That's looking awesome, nice work.
What's the difference with a '70 only flat hood?
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1970 hoods have no crumple zones like the newer hoods.
Interesting, so I will guess that's something you can tell by looking at the underside
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Quote from: Kewl_Wheels on February 22, 2018, 03:04:44 PM
Interesting, so I will guess that's something you can tell by looking at the underside
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Yes and it holds true with ALL 1970 E Body hoods, flat/rally/shaker you name it.
Undercoating done on both wheel wells. Taillights and emblems installed as well as original re-anodized quarter trim.
Almost ready for engine.
Very nice! Great job on a great car.
Finally some update - heater box rebuilt and installed. All metal parts acid dipped and RPM coated for natural look. Box was in good shape so I just washed it. Gasket set came from DMT and Stephan Fournier restored the motor.
Some before and after pics.
Rechromed factory bumper installed too.
F60-15 Polyglas tires arrived from Rusty.
Do you have any pics of rocker mouldings ?
I love the look of the PolyGlas tires regardless of the size. :bigthumb: The rims.....I'm on the fence, But I will wait until I see the complete car :alan2cents: They usually more suited for a B Body.
That's really coming together nicely.
Quote from: GY3R/T on April 15, 2018, 08:17:12 AM
Do you have any pics of rocker mouldings ?
Sorry, no pics on my laptop but I can take a few next week.
Quote from: anlauto on April 15, 2018, 08:21:39 AM
I love the look of the PolyGlas tires regardless of the size. :bigthumb: The rims.....I'm on the fence, But I will wait until I see the complete car :alan2cents: They usually more suited for a B Body.
Alan, I know you like Rallye wheels. I like them too, but after this pic my choice was done.
8) I put a set on my GF3 Challenger for a while. I didn't think it would look good but i was pleasantly surprised. :twothumbsup:
Stephan did a great work for my power top motor! Pics before and after. :banana:
I have also purchased new cylinders and hoses from Dave at Roseville.
I didn't know Stephan did those :twothumbsup:
Not much done lately for my own car, but atleast got engine pretty much ready for the dyno.
Trans is also done, hopefully I have enough time to install them next summer.
One more -71 showed up to my shop some time ago. :burnout:
Nice job on your 70 vert!
Whats the story with the 71 vert? It looks sweet!
Came from Florida about 3 years ago. My customer bought it last summer. Nice looking driver quality car with 472 Hemi, 4 speed and Dana. Owner want 5 speed trans and some other updates/repairs.
Finally got the engine dynoed about a month ago. All went well, after break in the cam we made a few pulls.
351 hp @ 5500 and 393 lbft @ 3500.
Need to continue work with a yellow ragtop...
Sorry to be a tad biased, but I think F8 is the best mopar color out there. :yes:
Quote from: 7E-Bodies on August 28, 2020, 10:38:31 AM
...... my 70 Challenger RT had an SPD of 11/04/69 and both build sheets are on the blue/white style of paper. That'd mean they were using it into November? .......
there were actual 1969 (E-SERIES) broadcast sheets used during the 1970 model year
- I'll ASSUME by mistake or error & the color highlight '70 version was created because of this error, it didn't show up until ~January ??
:crazytalk:
I just ran across this thread and know the previous owner and took a look at the car a few times when it was in town. Nice to see it is coming along nicely in the restoration.
Quote from: E74cuda on August 29, 2020, 09:04:22 AM
I just ran across this thread and know the previous owner and took a look at the car a few times when it was in town. Nice to see it is coming along nicely in the restoration.
Say hi to Marlon if you see him!
UUH, almost a year since last update... Got a yellow ragtop finally finished today, took a waay longer than I thought, anyways some pics here.