I've had a headlight fail and since I have to replace I thought about LED's. Is there any negatives to switching? Confirmed with seller that it has the 3 prong connector.
:popcorn:
:pixiepop:
:popcorn:
There are a couple of other threads on this .
My take is do it , brighter & better light quality , lower power draw , I have had LED headlights in my Vans for a couple of years now
Do they plug into the existing harness plugs? Any modifications needed? Physical or electrical
Seller advised they would plug into existing 3 prong harness. Waiting for reply if any modifications are needed.
They likely come with a pigtail adapter to allow them to plug into the oem connector. The oe connector will not go directly to the bulb. Also you may have to modify your headlight buckets by opening up the hole in the rear slightly..
I agree , 3 prong pigtail to plug into the existing plug
Following too, please post how it worlds out.
I got four headlamps with H4 halogen bulbs off EBay, glass over metal can. I kept the high beam halogen but bought H4 LEDs for the low beam. Not all LEDs are equal so read the reviews. I also got the headlamp relay harness from Crackedback (member on this site). It is very bright and seems to have a good light pattern. However, I have not driven the car at night. The LED bulbs have tiny build in fans so you hear it standing next to it when it is on but engine not running.
I was looking at these lights, Similar to the op's lights.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/FOUR-5-75-5-3-4-Round-H4-Clear-Projector-Headlights-w-36W-LED-H4-Bulbs-Chevy/333049077797?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144
They look fine, but I just don't know the quality of lamps you get for $69. I want headlights I can depend on.
Also a little confusing seeing as it lists them as 36w led bulbs and 55w quartz bulbs.
:popcorn: curious as to others experiences as I'm considering something like this for the Javelin? These would also work for a Cuda
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Pair-7-Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-Halo-Angle-Eyes-For-Jeep-Wrangler-JK-LJ-TJ-CJ/263372193221?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
or without the halo feature....
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/2PCS-Black-7Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-High-Low-Dual-Beam-Slim-For-Truck-Car-SUV/292932988902?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
an issue that concerns me is are they " really" dot approved? they may have the letters "DOT" on the plastic lenses but are they really ? I assume they are made offshore....
For me, I am looking for:
1) improvement over stock bulb
2) no significant modifications
3) must look original
I ordered them today. Seller advised that I might have to make slight modifications to the bucket. We'll see how they work out. Should have them by next week and I'll post before and after.
Quote from: Brads70 on October 02, 2019, 07:37:01 AM
:popcorn: curious as to others experiences as I'm considering something like this for the Javelin? These would also work for a Cuda
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Pair-7-Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-Halo-Angle-Eyes-For-Jeep-Wrangler-JK-LJ-TJ-CJ/263372193221?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
or without the halo feature....
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/2PCS-Black-7Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-High-Low-Dual-Beam-Slim-For-Truck-Car-SUV/292932988902?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
an issue that concerns me is are they " really" dot approved? they may have the letters "DOT" on the plastic lenses but are they really ? I assume they are made offshore....
ohhh I like those...good price too!!!!
I may have to get a pair of those for my Cuda.
Jason
In for update as well.
Please provide feedback.
Thanks.
I have LEDs in my car. The pattern isn't great, but they are quite bright. I've not yet been flashed by oncoming traffic :banana:
When I rewired my car I did -not- install headlight relays for this very reason. Low current draw LEDs don't need the added trouble.
Quote from: Cudajason on October 02, 2019, 01:27:18 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on October 02, 2019, 07:37:01 AM
:popcorn: curious as to others experiences as I'm considering something like this for the Javelin? These would also work for a Cuda
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Pair-7-Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-Halo-Angle-Eyes-For-Jeep-Wrangler-JK-LJ-TJ-CJ/263372193221?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
or without the halo feature....
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/2PCS-Black-7Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-High-Low-Dual-Beam-Slim-For-Truck-Car-SUV/292932988902?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
an issue that concerns me is are they " really" dot approved? they may have the letters "DOT" on the plastic lenses but are they really ? I assume they are made offshore....
ohhh I like those...good price too!!!!
I may have to get a pair of those for my Cuda.
Jason
Hurry up and get them and let me know how they work out! :rofl:
Quote from: Brads70 on October 02, 2019, 04:37:49 PM
Quote from: Cudajason on October 02, 2019, 01:27:18 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on October 02, 2019, 07:37:01 AM
:popcorn: curious as to others experiences as I'm considering something like this for the Javelin? These would also work for a Cuda
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Pair-7-Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-Halo-Angle-Eyes-For-Jeep-Wrangler-JK-LJ-TJ-CJ/263372193221?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
or without the halo feature....
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/2PCS-Black-7Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-High-Low-Dual-Beam-Slim-For-Truck-Car-SUV/292932988902?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
an issue that concerns me is are they " really" dot approved? they may have the letters "DOT" on the plastic lenses but are they really ? I assume they are made offshore....
ohhh I like those...good price too!!!!
I may have to get a pair of those for my Cuda.
Jason
Hurry up and get them and let me know how they work out! :rofl:
LOL yeah she
@Brads70 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/brads70_12) ...my car is down for the year so at best it will be next spring!
So you go first!!! :rofl:
Jason
Quote from: Cudajason on October 03, 2019, 05:12:33 AM
Quote from: Brads70 on October 02, 2019, 04:37:49 PM
Quote from: Cudajason on October 02, 2019, 01:27:18 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on October 02, 2019, 07:37:01 AM
:popcorn: curious as to others experiences as I'm considering something like this for the Javelin? These would also work for a Cuda
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Pair-7-Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-Halo-Angle-Eyes-For-Jeep-Wrangler-JK-LJ-TJ-CJ/263372193221?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
or without the halo feature....
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/2PCS-Black-7Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-High-Low-Dual-Beam-Slim-For-Truck-Car-SUV/292932988902?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
an issue that concerns me is are they " really" dot approved? they may have the letters "DOT" on the plastic lenses but are they really ? I assume they are made offshore....
ohhh I like those...good price too!!!!
I may have to get a pair of those for my Cuda.
Jason
Hurry up and get them and let me know how they work out! :rofl:
LOL yeah she @Brads70 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/brads70_12) ...my car is down for the year so at best it will be next spring!
So you go first!!! :rofl:
Jason
Same here, I have lots of work to do on the Javelin I'm hoping it's drive-able at some point next summer. :slapme5:
Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on October 02, 2019, 03:27:45 PM
I have LEDs in my car. The pattern isn't great, but they are quite bright. I've not yet been flashed by oncoming traffic :banana:
When I rewired my car I did -not- install headlight relays for this very reason. Low current draw LEDs don't need the added trouble.
What bothers you about the pattern? Is it like 'fingers' of light or something? Or is it too concentrated?
Quote from: dodj on October 03, 2019, 04:17:43 PM
Quote from: GoodysGotaCuda on October 02, 2019, 03:27:45 PM
I have LEDs in my car. The pattern isn't great, but they are quite bright. I've not yet been flashed by oncoming traffic :banana:
When I rewired my car I did -not- install headlight relays for this very reason. Low current draw LEDs don't need the added trouble.
What bothers you about the pattern? Is it like 'fingers' of light or something? Or is it too concentrated?
It does finger out some, but it doesn't have that sharp line like you see with more modern headlights. I can't fault the LEDs for that too much, it's just not as crisp as people have become accustom to. Overall they'll stay on the car, for sure. :banana:
mine are probably made by a different company but it only lights the top emitter os it has a clean cut off line on low beam
Quote from: Brads70 on October 02, 2019, 07:37:01 AM
:popcorn: curious as to others experiences as I'm considering something like this for the Javelin? These would also work for a Cuda
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Pair-7-Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-Halo-Angle-Eyes-For-Jeep-Wrangler-JK-LJ-TJ-CJ/263372193221?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
or without the halo feature....
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/2PCS-Black-7Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-High-Low-Dual-Beam-Slim-For-Truck-Car-SUV/292932988902?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
an issue that concerns me is are they " really" dot approved? they may have the letters "DOT" on the plastic lenses but are they really ? I assume they are made offshore....
Those lamps have the turn signals built into them like a motorcycle lamp it looks like?
The halo ones look to have that capability. Will need add a jumper into the front harness for the DRL/turn signal lead.
Quote from: dodj on October 04, 2019, 01:36:57 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on October 02, 2019, 07:37:01 AM
:popcorn: curious as to others experiences as I'm considering something like this for the Javelin? These would also work for a Cuda
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Pair-7-Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-Halo-Angle-Eyes-For-Jeep-Wrangler-JK-LJ-TJ-CJ/263372193221?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
or without the halo feature....
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/2PCS-Black-7Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-High-Low-Dual-Beam-Slim-For-Truck-Car-SUV/292932988902?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
an issue that concerns me is are they " really" dot approved? they may have the letters "DOT" on the plastic lenses but are they really ? I assume they are made offshore....
Those lamps have the turn signals built into them like a motorcycle lamp it looks like?
Yes they do! :bradsthumb:
Quote from: shawge on October 04, 2019, 02:25:28 PM
The halo ones look to have that capability. Will need add a jumper into the front harness for the DRL/turn signal lead.
I was considering something like those so I can remove existing blinker lights and housings for cold air intake.
These are the ones I'm looking at getting for my Challenger. Just can't decide if I want just the outters with the halo, or all 4. I'm leaning towards just the outters and then some without the halo for the inners. I'm planning on running driving lights in the stock turn signal holes.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-3-4-Switchback-White-DRL-Halo-Amber-Turn-Signal-Angel-Eye-LED-Headlight-EACH/253898627529?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Corey
Not a fan of angel eyes on classic cars. More a modern car thing I think.
Has anyone tried the Hella 002395801? This seems like the perfect option to get more light and plugs right into the factory harness? Reviews are pretty good. Its still halogen.
http://www.myhellalights.com/index.php/products/auxiliary-lamps/sealed-beam-conversion-headlamps/vision-plus-7in-conversion-headlamp/
https://www.amazon.com/HELLA-002395801-Halogen-Conversion-Headlamp/dp/B001G72SKQ/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=h6024&qid=1570622975&sr=8-2
I'm waiting for my Hella 9003/H4 bulbs to arrive. I plan on using IPCW CWC-7003 reflectors that I already own. I tried LEDs in two different H4 reflector housings and couldn't align the headlights with either one. The LEDs are definitely bright and consume little power, but with the scatter and unable to align, I took them out. There are some articles online that suggest the light pattern emanating from a LED is not compatible within a reflector designed for the 9003/H4 bulb's light pattern. I don't know about that, other than I totally ran out of adjustment on the headlight buckets to move the LED pattern down and it still wasn't over enough. Against my garage door the LEDs were all over the place. Always looking for suggestions.
Correct on the "scattering" of light for LED. Their is zero directional beam from them compared to old school.
I was part of manufacturing injection tools to produce the housings for airline headlights being converted to LED.
Each one of the ring insert diameters mold lens faces that direct the emitted light to differing directions to control it.
Each step farther out channels the captured light to a central beam. This bulb (4 LED) when tested on a plane would shine a direct beam that could be seen for 40 miles. Bulb is similar in diameter to my Challenger.
This is zero help for thread but is interesting.
There are many LED headlight designs and price ranges from less than $50 to several hundreds. Lots of reviews on web and Youtube videos that demonstrate the light pattern testing. The minimal light scatter bulbs usually seems to have two LEDs at opposite ends per bulb. The ones I purchased off Amazon was around $80. I have not tested on the road at night and was not planning to drive much at all after dark. So not spending too much on it. I mainly did it for brighter headlight that don't easily burned out and draw less amps.
I got 2 of the LED's installed. No modifications to the buckets and they fit nice. Only issue was the inner bulbs need to be H7 as mentioned by jordan. I ordered the H7 bulbs and they should be here tomorrow.
Wow big difference! :bradsthumb:
Got a link to the Ebay ones you bought?
Light pattern looks nice.
Any pics of the install?
Thx
Night & day difference , I love them in my vehicles :twothumbsup:
Anyone familiar with this brand: Optix?
https://www.amazon.com/Optix-Round-Sealed-Headlight-Conversion/dp/B01J4GG6L2
They have the glass Hella 7" listed at the bottom of the same ad with H4 bulbs , you can get H4 Led easily
:rubeyes:
Wow
Remember that the H7 bulb won't fit into the H4 lens assembly. The lenses I got came with a plug in the lens opening for shipping. I was able to remove the center material from the plug so that the H7 bulb would fit into to the plastic plug that fits into the H4 lens opening.
To say it another way: Put the H4 plug back into the lens opening. Use a dremel and remove material so that the H7 bulb will slip into the now modified plug. You can now mount the H7 bulb into the H4 lens opening. You may need to glue the modified H4 plug to the H7 bulb mount to make it permanent. I was able to make my hole just a little tight so that if for some reason I need to replace the H7 bulb in the future, I can reuse the H4 mount.
It is not as complicated as it may seem.
Quote from: Tantster on October 13, 2019, 02:53:30 PM
I got 2 of the LED's installed. No modifications to the buckets and they fit nice. Only issue was the inner bulbs need to be H7 as mentioned by jordan. I ordered the H7 bulbs and they should be here tomorrow.
Any pics of the headlights installed in the car? Which ones did you end up going with ?
Thanks!
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Would there be anything wrong with using the H4 in the inner headlight position. You would only be using one led connection, but.....
Would the H7 be a higher lumens?
Quote from: Cudajason on October 03, 2019, 05:12:33 AM
Quote from: Brads70 on October 02, 2019, 04:37:49 PM
Quote from: Cudajason on October 02, 2019, 01:27:18 PM
Quote from: Brads70 on October 02, 2019, 07:37:01 AM
:popcorn: curious as to others experiences as I'm considering something like this for the Javelin? These would also work for a Cuda
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Pair-7-Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-Halo-Angle-Eyes-For-Jeep-Wrangler-JK-LJ-TJ-CJ/263372193221?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
or without the halo feature....
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/2PCS-Black-7Inch-Round-LED-Headlights-High-Low-Dual-Beam-Slim-For-Truck-Car-SUV/292932988902?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
an issue that concerns me is are they " really" dot approved? they may have the letters "DOT" on the plastic lenses but are they really ? I assume they are made offshore....
ohhh I like those...good price too!!!!
I may have to get a pair of those for my Cuda.
Jason
Hurry up and get them and let me know how they work out! :rofl:
LOL yeah she @Brads70 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/brads70_12) ...my car is down for the year so at best it will be next spring!
So you go first!!! :rofl:
Jason
Found these on a Javelin if it helps you decide at all?
Apparently it's a holiday today and mail didn't run, so no bulbs. The H7's are the same manufacturer as the H4's, so hopefully I'll be able to get one of them to work without to much pain, either way I'll take pics. :)
Quote from: dodj on October 14, 2019, 10:00:51 AM
Would there be anything wrong with using the H4 in the inner headlight position. You would only be using one led connection, but.....
Would the H7 be a higher lumens?
The reflector has to be unique to sit the the bucket correctly so it would have a different part # ,
You can buy Led bulbs in almost any output you desire , I am running 160 watt equivalent vs 55 watt factory for example , really you do not need the dual bulbs low or high beam from the single bulb is beyond adequate .
The H7 bulbs were smaller as mentioned but I didn't count on the harness being smaller as well. To overcome that I made jumpers and since I had to do that I used the the H4 bulbs. All 4 are installed and I'm pretty happy with the outcome.
That looks like a standard 110AC wall plug?
Is the H7 that much brighter compared to the H4 LED?
Looks great !!
I believe you want a LED with 2 emitters , 1 one top. low beam & one on the bottom , high beam
Those have 3 emitters , not sure how that would work , probably why you are not getting a clean cut off line .
Quote from: Chryco Psycho on November 26, 2019, 07:03:31 PM
I believe you want a LED with 2 emitters , 1 one top. low beam & one on the bottom , high beam
Those have 3 emitters , not sure how that would work , probably why you are not getting a clean cut off line .
I have the same LED's as the OP with 2 emitters.
I would go LED if they had a Jeweling pattern that closely resembled like the originals.
I like to keep the Old School look.
Halos ETC. Not for me.
I went with the octane lighting H4 led kit. World of difference and I don't think it takes too much of the classic look away. No modification needed. All plug and play.
looks great :twothumbsup:
that looks nice, exactly what I want for my '70. You said they are "octane", do you have a link? How much?
Quote from: 70vert on April 07, 2020, 07:00:31 PM
that looks nice, exactly what I want for my '70. You said they are "octane", do you have a link? How much?
Octane lighting is the company. I bought them off Amazon. Kit was 199.99 and it came with 4 glass housings, 4 H4 led bulbs and two female H4 to male H7 adapters. The lights that came with them were OK, I just didn't like that they had fans on them. So I bought 4 beamtech H4 led's as they were fanless. I'll keep the ones that came with the kit as back-ups.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07L45VCT7?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image
Quote from: 918Muscle on April 07, 2020, 07:30:47 PM
Quote from: 70vert on April 07, 2020, 07:00:31 PM
that looks nice, exactly what I want for my '70. You said they are "octane", do you have a link? How much?
Octane lighting is the company. I bought them off Amazon. Kit was 199.99 and it came with 4 glass housings, 4 H4 led bulbs and two female H4 to male H7 adapters. The lights that came with them were OK, I just didn't like that they had fans on them. So I bought 4 beamtech H4 led's as they were fanless. I'll keep the ones that came with the kit as back-ups.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07L45VCT7?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image
Circling back to my LED's... I might replace them with the same setup you are using. Can you toss up a link to the beamtech H4's you used?
thx
-s
^^^ Good info.. notice on their website they seem to call all the LED bulbs they sell as"Fog Light Bulbs"... wonder if there is something to that?
So the takeaway is you want your replacement LED emitter in a form factor as similar to the original halogen as possible with sound waterproof connectors and active cooling. Wonder if putting one of the better LED's they recommend in the housing I already have would do the trick to focus the beam?
I have been running LED headlights with great results for at least 2 years now , Maybe I got lucky with a decent light ?