Hi
Found this tag from a old parts car I had a few years ago.
Kept this around as I think this was a very unique car back in the day.
If you decode it I think you'll see what I mean.
While now a hemi or anything high performance, cool anyway.
Dave
Cool tag Dave. I wouldn't mind having that car with all the options. It would be a great daily driver. :woohoo:
I'm sure there are other ,but the only 318 car I've seen with ralley gauges.
This is also a power sunroof car.
Dave
I know of an EV2, 4 speed, 318 with rallye gauges.
What's the deal with the K in the VON? Isn't that special order paint? :notsure:
Quote from: Cuda Cody on March 02, 2017, 10:54:46 AM
What's the deal with the K in the VON? Isn't that special order paint? :notsure:
I will have to check to be sure, but it is like an exec car or similar.
Quote from: Cuda Cody on March 02, 2017, 10:54:46 AM
What's the deal with the K in the VON? Isn't that special order paint? :notsure:
It was used for power sunroof also.
Dave
Learned something new today! :clapping:
Quote from: farmboy70 on March 02, 2017, 11:34:47 AM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on March 02, 2017, 10:54:46 AM
What's the deal with the K in the VON? Isn't that special order paint? :notsure:
It was used for power sunroof also.
Dave
hi-style not hi-performance 8)
Found this on another site, did not copy completely
K***** Y39 SPECIAL ORDER
K***** Y35 Y39 SPECIAL ORDER/POLICE
the '70 sunroof Challengers are a bit "ODD" - NO "sunroof" M51 fender tag code (need a b'cast sheet for "proof")
it looks like:
Chrysler spec'd "sales bank" cars got a "K" VON
Dealer spec'd "SOLD" cars received a normal 6-digit VON
& I know of two that were dealer spec'd with a sunroof & special order paint - they have "J" VONs
Just incase anyone was having trouble with the very first code. It is P-31 Power windows.
Dave
P31 is really rare! :yes: I've never owned a P31 car.
Quote from: farmboy70 on March 02, 2017, 04:51:35 PM
Just incase anyone was having trouble with the very first code. It is P-31 Power windows.
Dave
is it K00138 or K00188?
Quote from: Cuda Cody on March 02, 2017, 05:11:27 PM
P31 is really rare! :yes: I've never owned a P31 car.
Quote from: farmboy70 on March 02, 2017, 04:51:35 PM
Just incase anyone was having trouble with the very first code. It is P-31 Power windows.
Dave
P31 = PITA :alan2cents:
I've restored several now... :pullinghair:
I wrecked out a 383-2, P31 car back in the 80's. i kept that stuff a long time and finally almost gave it away. I always thought it was a cool option. My 69 Hemi GTX had it.
When I purchased that car all that was left of it was the sunroof and power windows.
The car was picked clean of everything else.
But the good news was it was perfect for my challenger.
Sunroof with all its parts intact and windows that were a piece of cake to install.
No wore out parts and worked perfectly.
Was glad to get them.
Dave
pics of what you added the options to? still have it?
Quote from: anlauto on March 02, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
P31 = PITA :alan2cents:
I've restored several now... :pullinghair:
What aspects of power windows did you find difficult Alan?
Quote from: cataclysm80 on March 02, 2017, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: anlauto on March 02, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
P31 = PITA :alan2cents:
I've restored several now... :pullinghair:
What aspects of power windows did you find difficult Alan?
Installation and adjustment. Using a battery with jumper wires, you have to hook up the wires to make the window go up, then unhook and reverse to make it go down etc.....much easier with crank windows.
Quote from: farmboy70 on March 02, 2017, 10:14:30 PM
When I purchased that car all that was left of it was the sunroof and power windows.
The car was picked clean of everything else.
But the good news was it was perfect for my challenger.
Sunroof with all its parts intact and windows that were a piece of cake to install.
No wore out parts and worked perfectly.
Was glad to get them.
Dave
Glad you were able to make good use of the remaining parts on the car. :bigthumb:
Quote from: 6bblgt on March 02, 2017, 11:04:31 PM
pics of what you added the options to? still have it?
I added them to this car about three years ago.
Still have it.
Dave
I bought the PW parts car because I wanted to add them to this car. When I seen the complexity of the wiring and the holes that had to be drilled I stopped thankfully. Not my photo, this is a photo by the current owner.
Power Windows kinda scare me for that reason. If I had an original car that had them, I would make it work and figure it out. But it does seem like a lot of work. :alan2cents:
Quote from: anlauto on March 03, 2017, 04:03:33 AM
Quote from: cataclysm80 on March 02, 2017, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: anlauto on March 02, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
P31 = PITA :alan2cents:
I've restored several now... :pullinghair:
What aspects of power windows did you find difficult Alan?
Installation and adjustment. Using a battery with jumper wires, you have to hook up the wires to make the window go up, then unhook and reverse to make it go down etc.....much easier with crank windows.
Quote from: farmboy70 on March 03, 2017, 05:30:45 AM
I added them to this car about three years ago.
Still have it.
Dave
I spy "
GATOR GRAIN"!! :cheers:
http://s640.photobucket.com/user/huffy70/media/1970%20Hemi%20custom/PICT9642_zps1157f379.mp4.html?sort=3&o=0
Opps, that didn't work. :looney:
Video link fixed. :banana:
That's just plain cool.
Gator Grain Sun Roof! :wowzers: Wozzers!!! :lookatthat:
Quote from: Cuda Cody on March 03, 2017, 01:04:09 PM
Gator Grain Sun Roof! :wowzers: Wozzers!!! :lookatthat:
one of none. LOL Sunroof, gator grain ,se window plug.
Dave
That's too bad about that car - it was on eBay in 2013 as a more complete car - definitely had potential. So Dave - is car K00188 officially crushed and gone to the great scrap yard in the sky?
Quote from: 6bblgt on March 02, 2017, 01:02:32 PM
the '70 sunroof Challengers are a bit "ODD" - NO "sunroof" M51 fender tag code (need a b'cast sheet for "proof")
it looks like:
Chrysler spec'd "sales bank" cars got a "K" VON
Dealer spec'd "SOLD" cars received a normal 6-digit VON
& I know of two that were dealer spec'd with a sunroof & special order paint - they have "J" VONs
@6bblgt (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/6bblgt_211) - you sent me one of those J Von cars - but not the other. Are you not able to share the 2nd one? Thanks, Scott.
Quote from: sdweatherman on March 29, 2017, 02:38:09 AM
That's too bad about that car - it was on eBay in 2013 as a more complete car - definitely had potential. So Dave - is car K00188 officially crushed and gone to the great scrap yard in the sky?
The car is gone. I cut it to pieces.
I have the fender tag and title, no vin tag as dash assembly was gone.
Dave
I love my P31 car. They still worked after 25 years of sitting in a barn
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I've owned a couple P31 cars, current car I added relays which helped allot, and currently I'm swapping out the motors, I had one that even with relays was still sluggish, I'd seen Dorman was offering replacement motors, about 25% smaller than the OE motors & I had doubts but someone else tried them & posted that they worked well.... I bought one just to try it & it works faster & stronger that the old design motors ever did..... So I bought the other three & currently I'm swapping them out.... All four are in, just doing adjustments on the window then clean & reinstall the panels...
Heck yeah!!
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Quote from: anlauto on March 02, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on March 02, 2017, 05:11:27 PM
P31 is really rare! :yes: I've never owned a P31 car.
Quote from: farmboy70 on March 02, 2017, 04:51:35 PM
Just incase anyone was having trouble with the very first code. It is P-31 Power windows.
Dave
P31 = PITA :alan2cents:
I've restored several now... :pullinghair:
Gee Alan! I didn't know you felt that way about P31? Do you still want the FJ5 sunroof car then.... :console:
I wish I had a P31 car! Not sure how many they made with Power Windows, but it's a pretty rare option.
I think the N88 code might be rarer than the P31... Add C62, M91 along with all the more common options & this car is very interesting...
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on March 30, 2017, 11:22:04 PM
I think the N88 code might be rarer than the P31... Add C62, M91 along with all the more common options & this car is very interesting...
Man, that's making me want to work on my Challenger! N88, P31, & C62. No luggage rack here though.
What's the value of a complete E body power window setup these days? All 4 regulators with working motors and good complete wiring harness with grommets. I don't recall whether it has the switches.
I've had afew P31 cars, great when they work. PITA when they don't. :alan2cents:
Quote from: bpsmopar on March 30, 2017, 09:49:16 PM
Gee Alan! I didn't know you felt that way about P31? Do you still want the FJ5 sunroof car then.... :console:
Obviously the more options there are the more difficult the restoration. Power windows are a pain to install.
Makes it more Challenging when customers bring me basket cases that nobody el;se wants to do....
I look forward to yet another sunroof car
@bpsmopar (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/bpsmopar_242) almost as much as I look forward to Christmas. :drunk:
I've never seen a complete set up for sale. I would guess if someone needs it they would pay a pretty penny for it. :bigmoney:
Quote from: cataclysm80 on March 31, 2017, 01:10:06 AM
What's the value of a complete E body power window setup these days? All 4 regulators with working motors and good complete wiring harness with grommets. I don't recall whether it has the switches.
Just let it float, hasn't been a problem, it's what the OE's have been doing for thirty years now... I'll bet the bracket is more about supporting the heavy OE motor preventing it banging or rattling on a bumpy road than controlling torque... The new motors are smaller & lighter...