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Title: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: Yobie on November 15, 2018, 08:25:26 AM
In regards to the lug studs do they need to be pressed/hammered into the axle shaft?  I suspect there shouldn't be any play in them.  The ridges on mine seem to be worn down, would the axle shaft need to be replaced?

Those studs aren't correct I know was just seeing the sizes of some extra I had on hand.
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: Cuda Cody on November 15, 2018, 08:30:41 AM
If you are looking for stock wheel lug studs, @MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10)  can get them for you.  If you have a 1970 and want to go back to 100% stock he can even get the LH and RH threads too.
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: MoparDave on November 15, 2018, 08:39:02 AM
http://www.rosevillemoparts.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=WHEEL+STUD&search_in_description=1&imageField.x=0&imageField.y=0

We also have the right and left thread lug nuts also.
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: Cuda Cody on November 15, 2018, 08:51:09 AM
And welcome to the site @Yobie (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/yobie_3127)   :welcome:    What are you working on?  Let's see some photos!    :twothumbsup:   :takepicture:
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: anlauto on November 15, 2018, 09:05:31 AM
The correct studs will fit tight, no need to replace the axles. the studs in your picture look similar to front disc brake studs.
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: Yobie on November 15, 2018, 12:23:44 PM
Thanks for the replies. I know those are not the correct studs I was just wondering how some extra front ones fit. As you can see the axel shaft hole is stripped so even the correct size doesn't fit snug it has some slop and falls back when putting the drum/wheel on.

I just want to make sure there is no issues I should be worrying about in regards to saftey with the ridges being stripped.

Thanks and I'll get some pics up shortly. It's a project 72 Cuda 340
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: anlauto on November 15, 2018, 12:57:41 PM
I'm a little confused...you're trying the wrong studs, that's why they're loose, the correct size studs will be tight. The spline sizes are not all the same. :alan2cents:
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: Rich G. on November 15, 2018, 01:12:40 PM
If you have the correct wheel studs and it still loose in the axle you might want to replace the axle or weld the studs in otherwise you might never get the lug nuts off if the studs start spinning on you.
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: JS29 on November 15, 2018, 01:39:30 PM
Quote from: Rich G. on November 15, 2018, 01:12:40 PM
If you have the correct wheel studs and it still loose in the axle you might want to replace the axle or weld the studs in otherwise you might never get the lug nuts off if the studs start spinning on you.
:iagree: I would replace it, A recipe for disaster! welding could effect the balance and if the weld brakes you will ether be cutting or drilling to get the wheel off.     
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: DAYLEY/CHALLENGER on November 15, 2018, 04:04:47 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on November 15, 2018, 08:30:41 AM
If you are looking for stock wheel lug studs, @MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10)  can get them for you.  If you have a 1970 and want to go back to 100% stock he can even get the LH and RH threads too.

Well, brings me to another question, when did the 1970 hubs go to all RH threads?
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: Brads70 on November 15, 2018, 06:26:39 PM
Quote from: Yobie on November 15, 2018, 08:25:26 AM
In regards to the lug studs do they need to be pressed/hammered into the axle shaft?  I suspect there shouldn't be any play in them.  The ridges on mine seem to be worn down, would the axle shaft need to be replaced?

Those studs aren't correct I know was just seeing the sizes of some extra I had on hand.

You could use a lug nut and a spacer to pull them into the hole, just make really sure they are fully seated as the wheel could come loose otherwise. If the splines are loose you could  find another stud slightly larger and drill the axel accordingly.
I've used a chart like this one to use a stock stud that are slightly longer  to use a spacer.
https://www.dormanproducts.com/pages/products/wheel-hardware/index.aspx
click on view as PDF or View Chart
Welcome to the site, hope that helps?  :wave:
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: RUNCHARGER on November 15, 2018, 07:04:32 PM
If the hole is wallowed out you really should try to find another axle.
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: Chryco Psycho on November 15, 2018, 07:07:56 PM
Welcome to the site  :wave:
It take 5 bolts to slide the axle out , then you can hammer the studs in & get them fully seated  doesn't hurt to lube the brg & the same time as it is not lubricated but the diff fluid
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: Yobie on November 16, 2018, 11:01:33 AM
LOL, I know those are not the correct studs.  I think I will weld the correct ones in and look to replace the axle shaft when I start driving the car.



What happend was I was towing the car on a tow dolly and the rear wheel fell off.  Brand new kuhmo tires and the inner belt broke causing the tire to wobble.  Being unaware it vibrated and wiggled till it sheered the bolts and I lost the wheel/drum down the road.  Thankfully it was at night and no one was around to get hurt!



Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: Yobie on November 16, 2018, 11:06:04 AM
Quote from: DAYLEY/CHALLENGER on November 15, 2018, 04:04:47 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on November 15, 2018, 08:30:41 AM
If you are looking for stock wheel lug studs, @MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10)  can get them for you.  If you have a 1970 and want to go back to 100% stock he can even get the LH and RH threads too.

Well, brings me to another question, when did the 1970 hubs go to all RH threads?

Just saw this post, maybe I wont weld it then!

Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: Cuda Cody on November 16, 2018, 11:17:24 AM
Quote from: DAYLEY/CHALLENGER on November 15, 2018, 04:04:47 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on November 15, 2018, 08:30:41 AM
If you are looking for stock wheel lug studs, @MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10)  can get them for you.  If you have a 1970 and want to go back to 100% stock he can even get the LH and RH threads too.

Well, brings me to another question, when did the 1970 hubs go to all RH threads?

1971 it was changed.  All 1970 were original RH and LH lugs.
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: CudaMoparRay on November 17, 2018, 12:06:15 AM
 :welcome: from Sylmar, CA
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: DAYLEY/CHALLENGER on November 19, 2018, 07:46:54 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on November 16, 2018, 11:17:24 AM
Quote from: DAYLEY/CHALLENGER on November 15, 2018, 04:04:47 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on November 15, 2018, 08:30:41 AM
If you are looking for stock wheel lug studs, @MoparDave (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/mopardave_10)  can get them for you.  If you have a 1970 and want to go back to 100% stock he can even get the LH and RH threads too.

Well, brings me to another question, when did the 1970 hubs go to all RH threads?

1971 it was changed.  All 1970 were original RH and LH lugs.

My 70 has a build date , Oct, 69, it has all RH studs!
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: RJChallenger on November 20, 2018, 06:15:27 AM
My 5-70 A66 , Still had left hand threads in 81 when I bought the car. I was 20 years old at the time. Strong like bull, dumb like ox.  I had snapped 4 of 5 lug nuts off, on the drivers side before some old guy told me about left hand threads. I didn't know why mopar put a 7 on the end of the studs until I turned it upside down a saw a L.
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: RUNCHARGER on November 20, 2018, 07:00:04 AM
Ha, ha: Yep, my friend in Chrysler parts told me to just always loosen them to the back of the car. It was actually good engineering but unfortunately the public didn't get it and GM and Chrysler both ended up changing to all rights.
Title: Re: Probably a stupid question - lug studs
Post by: redgum78 on November 20, 2018, 02:00:52 PM
Quote from: RJChallenger on November 20, 2018, 06:15:27 AM
My 5-70 A66 , Still had left hand threads in 81 when I bought the car. I was 20 years old at the time. Strong like bull, dumb like ox.  I had snapped 4 of 5 lug nuts off, on the drivers side before some old guy told me about left hand threads. I didn't know why mopar put a 7 on the end of the studs until I turned it upside down a saw a L.

:haha: you recount the story well......I can laugh because I know someone that did something similar..... :-[.


Welcome Yobi- Don't weld them, it may work but its not a long term fix. I am all for doing what it takes to get it going but you don't want to skimp on the bit that holds the wheels onto the car!