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Title: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cataclysm80 on April 26, 2020, 12:47:50 PM
1970 A93 Challengers and Barracudas both used the same upholstery pattern, which was L6X9 or L6XW.
L6X9 was black everything
L6XW was black flooring, black dash frame and dash pad, black steering column and horn pad, black kick panels, white door panels and rear side panels, white seats with white inserts, & white headliner.
Typically Challengers and Barracudas used different stitching patterns and materials, but the A93 cars shared the same interior.
This interior was only available on A93 cars, which were introduced about 4 months before the end of production, making them fairly rare.


The material used for the A93 seats is the same material used for the Barracuda H6 seats, in either white or black, only the stitching pattern is different for 1970.

The L6 stitching pattern for 1970 is extremely similar to the 1970 Barracuda H6 stitching pattern, only the seat inserts are stitched differently. 
The 1970 H6 Barracuda seats have numerous horizontal stitches in the insert, while the L6 seats are rather plain and flat.  Good pictures of L6 seats are difficult to find, they might have one horizontal stitch on the insert portion of the seat.
For 1970, L6 interior was only available in black or white.



1971 A93 seats worked differently.
1971 A93 Barracudas used the normal 1971 Barracuda H6 seats, and didn't have any special interior at all.  After all, if the idea is to produce a low cost vehicle, it's better not to spend money making a custom interior.
1971 A93 Challengers still used the L6 interior code.  This signified that they did not get the normal 1971 Challenger H6 seats, but instead would get something else.  What they received was the normal 1971 Barracuda H6 upholstery.   
So, 1971 A93 Challengers and Barracudas still both used the same upholstery pattern, despite it being coded differently for each car.  It wasn't a unique upholstery pattern like the previous year though, it was the normal 1971 Barracuda pattern, which saved money and also allowed a wider color selection.
For 1971, any A93 car could have the following interior colors, X9 black, XW white, B5 blue, F7 green, T7 dark saddle brown.  Barracuda A93 cars also had the option of choosing XV orange.


Note: Only the 1970 Challenger A93 was called a Deputy.  That name was dropped for 1971, so all other A93 cars are just called Coupes. 
(not to be confused with Gran Coupe, which is totally different.  Gran Coupe is a luxury car, while an A93 Coupe is an economy car, they're opposites.)


Here's some pictures of 1970 L6 upholstery.
The white seat here is from a 1970 Deputy.  I'm not sure whether the insert in the seat base is just discolored, or has been replaced, but the top portion is original.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cataclysm80 on April 26, 2020, 12:51:08 PM
Here's some normal 1970  H6X9 upholstery just for comparison.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cataclysm80 on April 26, 2020, 12:53:10 PM
Here's a couple pictures of the 1971 upholstery.

For 1971, any A93 car could have the following interior colors, X9 black, XW white, B5 blue, F7 green, T7 dark saddle brown.  Barracuda A93 cars also had the option of choosing XV orange.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cataclysm80 on April 26, 2020, 02:16:30 PM
Here's a photo of a metal window crank plug in a 1970 Deputy Challenger.
You can see a bit of the L6XW seat in the photo.

Here's a few more pics of A93 metal window crank plugs while I'm at it.
Typically the 1970 A93 cars have these metal plugs, while the 1971 A93 cars have plastic plugs.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cuda hunter on April 27, 2020, 06:53:14 PM
My 71 A93 has the metal plugs. 

Thanks for the info. 

Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 198D13 on April 28, 2020, 01:44:13 PM
The newly issued 1970 ones from Legendary, made using an original white A93 set from a Challenger Deputy.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: JS29 on April 28, 2020, 01:47:58 PM
 :cool:
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 198D13 on April 28, 2020, 01:56:08 PM
Front buckets.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 198D13 on April 28, 2020, 02:01:52 PM
1971 original brown interior rear window plug.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 198D13 on April 28, 2020, 02:14:57 PM
1971 original rear quarter window plugs, two brown and one black. Part number is the same on all, regardless of colour:  3509 858, and is cast into the center rear of each plug.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 198D13 on April 28, 2020, 02:17:31 PM
One more, all front side. Awesome detail to match the grain on the rear panel.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cuda hunter on April 28, 2020, 07:23:08 PM
thanks for the pics @198D13 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/198d13_124)
I've not seen those before.  Really is great graining. They appear to match perfectly.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 198D13 on April 29, 2020, 05:47:07 AM
And in 1971 cars they attach to each panel in an "oval" way(see the pattern on the backside of each plug, the 1971 panels being made to receive this special design), rather than the much cruder "circular" way that was used on the 1970 cars with the stainless round plugs.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: JS29 on April 29, 2020, 05:58:45 AM
The plastic plug's would blend in, the stainless would look more obvious. Cheep!  :yes:
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: jeff968 on April 29, 2020, 08:25:11 AM
I had an A93 Challenger car a few years back. Bizarre car. FC7 with a white interior and an R22 8 track, on a deputy!!??? I pulled a build sheet out of it for an EF4 A93 that had absolutely no options.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cuda hunter on April 29, 2020, 01:31:25 PM
Did you happen to scan the build sheet into the data base here? 
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 198D13 on May 02, 2022, 12:22:26 PM
Quote from: cuda hunter on April 27, 2020, 06:53:14 PM
My 71 A93 has the metal plugs. 

Thanks for the info.

Here is the fender tag info from my car:
Maybe you could post yours as well.

R11 EN2
EL5 C A93 B51 C55 M21
EL5 H6T7 000 B12 B44707
E24 D13 BH23 C1B 212535
I bought it from the original owner about twenty years ago, or more.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cuda hunter on May 03, 2022, 09:31:01 AM
Glad to post the info. 

Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cuda hunter on May 03, 2022, 09:33:51 AM
I find it interesting that my car was ordered with bucket seats.  Everything else is the basic.  Everything being M21 sill moldings and R11 am radio. 

The only thing I don't remember is what the U is for.  I understand U codes in the book are for tires sizes. 
Anyone have an answer about the U ? 
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cuda hunter on May 03, 2022, 09:40:06 AM
@198D13 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/198d13_124)
I see that your car also has the bucket seats. sill moldings and am radio.
Cool that someone added on Power brakes.

What I don't understand about your tag, is the C.     Can anyone explain what the C is? 

Both your car and mine have a single letter code.  Very interesting. 
I have looked through all my tags for cars I have owned, ebodies.  None of them have a single letter code.

Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 6bblgt on May 03, 2022, 09:42:58 AM
the "U" is build to USA spec's
bucket seats are STANDARD as is the 225, 3-speed manual  transmission and M21 "drip trough mouldings" - the only OPTION covered by the fender tag is R11, the AM radio
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cuda hunter on May 03, 2022, 10:03:39 AM
Just a few specific coupe option pictures. 
rear quarter windows


I am looking for pics of the stainless plugs.
Also will take a pic of the original seats from the car. 
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 6bblgt on May 03, 2022, 10:09:59 AM
where
1969-'70 cars have: Y05, Y07, Y09 for USA, CANADA, EXPORT spec. builds
1971 & up cars have: U, C, I for USA, CANADA, INTERNATIONAL spec. builds
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 198D13 on May 03, 2022, 10:21:19 AM
Quote from: cuda hunter on May 03, 2022, 09:40:06 AM
@198D13 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/198d13_124)
I see that your car also has the bucket seats. sill moldings and am radio.
Cool that someone added on Power brakes.

What I don't understand about your tag, is the C.     Can anyone explain what the C is? 

Both your car and mine have a single letter code.  Very interesting. 
I have looked through all my tags for cars I have owned, ebodies.  None of them have a single letter code.

"

The "C" is for Canada.
You shouldn't find it interesting that your car was ordered with bucket seats, it HAD to be, you can't and won't find a car with manual transmission and a bench seat. Not an E Body anyways. Manual transmission means that automatically(bad pun), the car gets bucket seats.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 198D13 on May 03, 2022, 10:29:04 AM
Quote from: cuda hunter on May 03, 2022, 09:33:51 AM
I find it interesting that my car was ordered with bucket seats.  Everything else is the basic.  Everything being M21 sill moldings and R11 am radio. 

The only thing I don't remember is what the U is for.  I understand U codes in the book are for tires sizes. 
Anyone have an answer about the U ?

Do you have a broadcast sheet for your car? I can post a picture of the one from my car, that may help you with some questions, etc, that you might have, Also, I can post pictures of any part of it if you want.
Let me know.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cuda hunter on May 03, 2022, 10:56:44 AM
Mine did not come with a build sheet.  I would love to dissect your build sheet! 

Thanks yal, @198D13 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/198d13_124)  and @6bblgt (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/6bblgt_211) for the information.

I had not considered that a manual could not have a bench seat. 
Seems I have seen B bodies with bench seat manuals. 
Did anything come with a bench seat manual in the mopar lines?
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 198D13 on May 03, 2022, 11:01:28 AM
Lots of B Bodies, Satellites, Road Runners, GTX, etc.
They are pretty common. The placement of the transmission on them, with the huge shifter coming out of the floor, is much closer to the dash pad than on an E Body.
You would have to cut out a big chunk in the bench seat on an E Body to make it work!
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 6bblgt on May 03, 2022, 12:33:45 PM
Quote from: cuda hunter on May 03, 2022, 10:56:44 AM
Did anything come with a bench seat manual in the mopar lines?

prior to 1969, Chrysler's product planning did not have OPTIONAL bucket seats for low & mid-level cars - they were STANDARD on high-end cars
for example:
1968 Road Runners & Super Bees are ALL bench seat cars - with floor shifted 4-speed manuals & column shift automatics, PERIOD
   1968 GTX & Coronet R/T are ALL bucket seat cars - it didn't matter which transmission, a console was OPTIONAL
1964 Furys are ALL bench seat cars - it didn't matter which transmission, but all automatics were on the column
   1964 Sport Furys are ALL bucket seat cars - it didn't matter which transmission, a console was STANDARD
etc.

the new for 1970 model year pony cars Barracuda & Challenger were designed with bucket seats STANDARD
  there was an OPTIONAL (at extra cost) bench seat available 1970-'71, but was only available with column shift automatic transmission
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 198D13 on May 03, 2022, 04:44:10 PM
Broadcast sheet.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cuda hunter on May 03, 2022, 07:38:22 PM
Seats
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cuda hunter on May 03, 2022, 07:58:17 PM
My one, crumby window crank plug.

Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 198D13 on May 04, 2022, 09:28:52 AM
I think I have a few of those stainless steel plugs. That is crazy that yours looks the way it does. Stainless usually stands up to all kinds of rust and corrosion. Is your car pretty much complete? Original motor, trans, carb. etc?
Mine has an 8.75 rear end despite being a 225. My 1970 Challenger with 225 and three speed, non A93 has an original 7.25 in it. What is in yours?
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: cuda hunter on May 04, 2022, 08:38:41 PM
No motor or trans. 
The rear is a 7 1/4. 

Had most of the interior.  Sat in Texas for a lot of years.  HOT.  Sometimes Humid. 

No build sheet.  Has had a repaint.  Has a few doodles (not rock). 
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 7E-Bodies on May 07, 2022, 06:27:29 PM
In the electrical world, we called these plugs "push pennies". If they're hard to come by, perhaps check in with a contractors electrical supply facility. They come in all sizes.
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 6bblgt on May 07, 2022, 08:46:17 PM
the plug pictured above appears to be textured - hard to find, but shouldn't be impossible to replicate
Title: Re: A93 Coupe & Deputy Interior L6X9 & L6XW
Post by: 6bblgt on July 24, 2022, 12:00:36 PM
there was a '70 Challenger Deputy L6X9 interior at Carlisle 2022 - here's a scan of the pattern on the insert material  :takealook: