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Technical Shop => Electrical & Audio => Topic started by: Mrbill426 on September 26, 2020, 03:39:24 PM

Title: Parts indentification please
Post by: Mrbill426 on September 26, 2020, 03:39:24 PM
If I could get some help identifying a couple items that would be great  :)

First is a relay attached to the dash frame on the passenger sided.  The second is blocked off cable of some kind coming out of the back of the radio.
Thanks!

Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: YYZ on September 26, 2020, 03:52:58 PM
 So for the second, that appears to be the cable that comes out of the back of the radio to connect the cassette player.

It is a standard 6 pin DIN configuration.

In the end of it, the small black plastic plug with the exposed wires, it is removable.  That is a jumper that ensures that the radio will work, even without a cassette player attached.   The exposed wires should be covered with a black plastic button, which appears to be missing.

Tip for anyone bench testing a '71-4 radio with the cassette pigtail: make sure
you have the cassette attached, or one of the jumper/shorting plugs.   Without it, you may think the radio is dead, when it actually might be perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: Mrbill426 on September 26, 2020, 04:03:12 PM
@YYZ (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/yyz_291) perfect; thanks!  :bigthumb:  And I have the black plastic cap that was on it; I just removed it for the photo.



Quote from: YYZ on September 26, 2020, 03:52:58 PM
So for the second, that appears to be the cable that comes out of the back of the radio to connect the cassette player.

It is a standard 6 pin DIN configuration.

In the end of it, the small black plastic plug with the exposed wires, it is removable.  That is a jumper that ensures that the radio will work, even without a cassette player attached.   The exposed wires should be covered with a black plastic button, which appears to be missing.

Tip for anyone bench testing a '71-4 radio with the cassette pigtail: make sure
you have the cassette attached, or one of the jumper/shorting plugs.   Without it, you may think the radio is dead, when it actually might be perfectly fine.
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: Mrbill426 on September 27, 2020, 07:32:04 AM
Anyone know what that relay is for?
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: anlauto on September 27, 2020, 07:46:06 AM
Looks like an aftermarket version of the door buzzer mounted on the far side of the dash on the passenger side.
Does it have a Chrysler part number ?
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: Mrbill426 on September 27, 2020, 08:07:38 AM
@anlauto (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/anlauto_19)  The buzzer is there; a thin black plastic box with only two connections and it works with voltage applied.  I will look for numbers and get back to you; thanks

Quote from: anlauto on September 27, 2020, 07:46:06 AM
Looks like an aftermarket version of the door buzzer mounted on the far side of the dash on the passenger side.
Does it have a Chrysler part number ?
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: anlauto on September 27, 2020, 09:58:49 AM
I have no idea what it is then, doesn't look like a factory E Body part that I'm aware of :dunno:
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: mccannix on September 27, 2020, 03:42:53 PM
Looks possibly to be a 0312 number on the side of the relay, if in fact a Mopar would be a 1972 item
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: YYZ on September 27, 2020, 03:51:19 PM
Later seat belt buzzer?  I'm almost certain I have removed these before
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: Mrbill426 on September 27, 2020, 07:06:34 PM
#3588587
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: tparker on September 27, 2020, 07:15:05 PM
My 1970 western sport special Challenger has one on the passenger side as well. I am not totally sure what it is, but I have electrical diagrams so we can figure it out.  It isn't a seatbelt buzzard as my seatbelts didn't have any electrical connections. I think I figured it out at one point but have since forgot. I'll look at my electrical drawings.
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: Jay Bee on September 27, 2020, 07:42:48 PM
According to JS Restorations via a Google search that part number is " Seat belt relay".
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: tparker on September 27, 2020, 08:27:07 PM
I'm doubting my ability to read the schematics. They arn't very clear. I don't see any wiring info about seatbelts for the 1970 challenger. The dash diagram seems to label it as a Timer Delay Relay but doesn't give any description. The only thing I see similar in the wiring diagrams is the Key Buzzer. My second thought is something with the blower or AC. Just a guess. I'll look tomorrow to see if I hooked it up and trace it back to figure it out if no one answers it.
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: Jay Bee on September 28, 2020, 06:11:53 AM
In his profile the OP has 1972 Cuda as "Current E-bodies Owned", which would have a seat belt warning system. Whether the location he found it in is where it's suppose to be mounted, I don't know.
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: Mrbill426 on September 28, 2020, 09:58:20 AM
@Jay Bee (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/jay-bee_351) yes it is a '72.  I found a parts list that says for earlier (pre Nov 71) it's a low fuel relay and for after Nov it's a seat belt relay :huh:; mine is Apr '72.  Not sure what it actually does though; just energizes a buzzer?  :dunno:

Thanks guys!


Quote from: Jay Bee on September 28, 2020, 06:11:53 AM
In his profile the OP has 1972 Cuda as "Current E-bodies Owned", which would have a seat belt warning system. Whether the location he found it in is where it's suppose to be mounted, I don't know.
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: Mrbill426 on September 28, 2020, 10:45:21 AM
I looked (or tried) up JS Restorations and came upon a website under construction that seems to have been that way for a while.  Does JS Restorations exist anymore?




Quote from: Jay Bee on September 27, 2020, 07:42:48 PM
According to JS Restorations via a Google search that part number is " Seat belt relay".
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: JS29 on September 28, 2020, 12:13:24 PM
Yes, but he does not come here anymore!  :no:
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: Mrbill426 on September 28, 2020, 01:39:39 PM
So no current website and cataloging then?
https://jsrestorations.com/


Quote from: JS29 on September 28, 2020, 12:13:24 PM
Yes, but he does not come here anymore!  :no:
Title: Re: Parts indentification please
Post by: tparker on September 28, 2020, 01:43:52 PM
The wiring diagram for 70 says the fuel relay is 4 pin. I labeled mine when I put the dash in as key buzzard