With AG BackEast out of commission until at least April/May 2022, I was please to find another company that can reproduce the fender tags....
I can't speak to their quality yet, but I have ordered two sets to try them out....
I can post pictures once they arrive ... :)
http://www.tagmyclassic.com/FoxsetStudioPage.aspx?pgid=tagmyclass0
Hi Alan. Good to know Will they decode 71 build sheet.
Would be good to have even if I'm not keeping G code or gold color.
Look forward to seeing how they look. Thx
Most places that make the tags won't do the "decode" unless you go through a service like MMC Detroit or Galen Govier. There are PLENTY of guys on here that can help you with the lay-out, and having the broadcast sheet makes it possible to have an accurate tag reproduced.
Once you have the lay-out, just send in that and have the tag made, or they will copy an rusty original if you have one.
Definitely post up a picture of your reproduction tag when you get it so we can tell you what's wrong with it. If it's not a copy of an original I can, almost, guarantee there will be issues, so why do one. :dunno:
Does a company have to register or be certified to do the reproductions? I hope so!
Quote from: FE5CUDA on November 24, 2021, 07:13:40 AM
Definitely post up a picture of your reproduction tag when you get it so we can tell you what's wrong with it. If it's not a copy of an original I can, almost, guarantee there will be issues, so why do one. :dunno:
Here are the pictures I promised, I think they look great....I'm sure the experts on this forum may be able to tell me what's wrong with them, so have at it....PLEASE point out everything that's wrong with my reproduction tags... :brainiac:
Here's the other set I had made...full of mistakes :crazytalk: :crazytalk:
I'm having a hard time finding aclone in the code book....
Kind of funny.
Ya, definitely no 4-speeds came w/318s in 1971.
Quality looks good.
Quote from: JS29 on November 24, 2021, 11:44:58 AM
@cuda hunter (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cuda-hunter_176) I think it shoud say ACLOWN, It's just an attempt for one to draw attention to them selves. ::)
I hope you don't mean FE5CUDA, he's just simply stating that he and others on here can find "mistakes" in any reproduction tag, and it looks as if Cuda Hunter has already proven that by finding one.... :worship:
...and I know you don't mean me because I'm simply promoting a new(to me) company that I found that can reproduce tags while the major player "AG Backeast" is out of commission http://www.tagmyclassic.com/FoxsetStudioPage.aspx?pgid=tagmyclass0 :twothumbsup:
Quote from: ragtopdodge on November 24, 2021, 11:46:41 AM
Kind of funny.
Ya, definitely no 4-speeds came w/318s in 1971.
Quality looks good.
That's interesting, I did not know that...
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :rofl:
PRXW not available in 71 either.
(https://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/colorAndTrim/1971/71_Barracuda0004.jpg)
The tags do look pretty good. But I'm not an expert and I am still learning. Definitely new to the mopar compared to most folk here.
So i could get a 318 with a d21 in 70, but I couldn't get it in 71? I've not noticed that yet. Interesting.
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I just can't get over ASSCLOWN :haha: :haha: :haha: Crackin me up!
J54 and N96?.. :foul:
I'm glad you guys are picking up on all these "mistakes" I wouldn't want people to think I was trying to "FOOL" anybody... :haha: :haha:
Quote from: Skdmark on November 24, 2021, 05:27:15 PM
PRXW not available in 71 either.
Is that even a code ? I just made that one up ;) White leather in 71 should be SRXW right ?
See the image I posted above.
No SRXW either
PR.. was for Gran Coupes and SR.. was for 'Cudas
Quote from: Skdmark on November 24, 2021, 08:44:56 PM
See the image I posted above.
No SRXW either
PR.. was for Gran Coupes and SR.. was for 'Cudas
So what's the code for white leather seats in a 71 Cuda ?
Well, so much for teaching what others know, but not what you know! :console:
Quote from: 6bblgt on November 26, 2021, 11:50:32 AM
Quote from: Skdmark on November 25, 2021, 08:05:37 PM
@anlauto (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/anlauto_19)
White leather wasn't an available option in 71.
& white leather was never a Challenger OPTION
It's amazing to think the amount of 71 Cudas with white leather were all added afterwards, :looney: looks great in white in my opinion....oh a JS, you're never too old to learn something new :drinkingbud:
Quote from: anlauto on November 24, 2021, 07:03:30 PM
I'm glad you guys are picking up on all these "mistakes" I wouldn't want people to think I was trying to "FOOL" anybody... :haha: :haha:
So you paid how much for a complete fake tag? Just curious, my bother?
Quote from: FE5CUDA on December 02, 2021, 09:06:20 AM
Quote from: anlauto on November 24, 2021, 07:03:30 PM
I'm glad you guys are picking up on all these "mistakes" I wouldn't want people to think I was trying to "FOOL" anybody... :haha: :haha:
So you paid how much for a complete fake tag? Just curious, my bother?
Thanks for asking...For the two tags plus postage I paid $325.00 CDN, that's roughly $265USD according to on on line calculator.
You can contact him directly through his website for a quote, he's a great guy to deal with. http://www.tagmyclassic.com/
I just ordered a third set for the AAR Cuda I'm restoring, I'll post pictures of them once they arrive :banana:
The quality looks good and the font size etc..
On a more serious note....I just had these tags made for the AAR Cuda I'm restoring...I think they look great :banana:
They look pretty good.
I'm curious to know just how close they are to the original tags.
Quote from: cuda hunter on December 14, 2021, 06:56:02 PM
They look pretty good.
I'm curious to know just how close they are to the original tags.
Feel free to compare them
That does look good. Every letter lines up with original locations!
They only difference I can spot is the bottom line of numbers is not as close to the rib along the bottom as it is on the original :dunno:
I see that now. The margins on the top and the sides look to be correct.
What is causing that? spacing between the lines? Is the size of the tag the exact size as the original?
331...the "1" seems slightly further apart than the preceding "3".
Other than that, looks good!
Good eye.
The "rib" on the top and bottom appear to be narrower than the original. The numbers are closer to the rib than original. But really, a 1000 times better than it was before. So you could tell it from an original but maybe that was the makers intention to avoid fakes being passed for originals./font]
Must be the way I'm looking at the picture but looks like the last number of the vin is 3 on the old tag...
Are they made of steel or aluminum....
They look good
Quote from: mccannix on December 15, 2021, 03:22:11 PM
Must be the way I'm looking at the picture but looks like the last number of the vin is 3 on the old tag...
Are they made of steel or aluminum....
They look good
How's this view Terry....you made my heart stop for a second...metal
A little compilation of what was wrong with the AAR repro tag and an original tag with a unique factory error in the fifth row, first code placement.
On this tag, the Y07 code is one character to the left (closer to the left screw hole) instead of being lined up with the third character of the first code in the fourth row. I looked through all of my saved AAR and T/A fender tag pictures and only found one original tag with this error. Your tag makes it two. BS23J0B287513 also has this factory error and is also a March 1970 SPD. Could be a tag stamping machine setup mistake which makes it very, uncommon.
Also, the last picture is to assist you in the future. :ohyeah:
I just like it because it doesn't have a big rust hole in it....and the fact that I found another company here in Canada that makes tags so I don't have to depend on AG Backeast :twothumbsup:
If someone points out that the "1" is 1mil out of place at a car show...then the owner can whip out the original tags :whiteflag: :haha:
Quote from: MoparCarGuy on December 15, 2021, 06:13:12 PM
A little compilation of what was wrong with the AAR repro tag and an original tag with a unique factory error in the fifth row, first code placement.
On this tag, the Y07 code is one character to the left (closer to the left screw hole) instead of being lined up with the third character of the first code in the fourth row. I looked through all of my saved AAR and T/A fender tag pictures and only found one original tag with this error. Your tag makes it two. BS23J0B287513 also has this factory error and is also a March 1970 SPD. Could be a tag stamping machine setup mistake which makes it very, uncommon.
Also, the last picture is to assist you in the future. :ohyeah:
Thanks for the information. So rarely do I ever see actual comparison's and mistake comparison's at that!
Really appreciate the knowledge! Thanks again!
Quote from: MoparCarGuy on December 15, 2021, 06:13:12 PM
A little compilation of what was wrong with the AAR repro tag and an original tag with a unique factory error in the fifth row, first code placement.
On this tag, the Y07 code is one character to the left (closer to the left screw hole) instead of being lined up with the third character of the first code in the fourth row. I looked through all of my saved AAR and T/A fender tag pictures and only found one original tag with this error. Your tag makes it two. BS23J0B287513 also has this factory error and is also a March 1970 SPD. Could be a tag stamping machine setup mistake which makes it very, uncommon.
Also, the last picture is to assist you in the future. :ohyeah:
Another tag, also an AAR within this timeframe for SPD (324-401), with the fifth line, first code starting too early on the second character of the fourth row. This makes three AAR tags with this stamping error.
Note the N85 code's N is almost absent when punched into the left screw hole area.
Does anyone know how the stamping machine works? Is it like a typewriter and a human is punching in the option codes using a space bar between codes? That would explain the error of not hitting two spaces (spacebar) before typing the code.
So if I had of posted a picture of the new reproduction tag without posting the picture of the original tag would you say the "Y07" was in the wrong location ?
Quote from: anlauto on December 17, 2021, 02:02:08 PM
So if I had of posted a picture of the new reproduction tag without posting the picture of the original tag would you say the "Y07" was in the wrong location ?
I would like to say I would have searched through my folder of fender tags just to check what was correct but, yes, I probably would have thought it was stamped wrong. Technically, it is stamped wrong. At least three times by the factory and now duplicated by your vendor.
Now the real question, if the factory makes a mistake and your car came with that mistake, is it really "wrong" if you duplicate that mistake? I say no, if you document it. We see this all the time with Mopar. Different parts installed on one side of car than the other, emblems placed incorrectly, items missing, various suppliers providing different versions of the same part number, etc.
Never say never with Mopar as they installed what they had on the assembly line and were in a hurry!
Question for the OP . Are these tags tied to a customer car...or your own?
Quote from: TA/Z06/GSXR1100 on December 17, 2021, 06:13:43 PM
Question for the OP . Are these tags tied to a customer car...or your own?
The AAR tags belong to a customer's car that I'm restoring...the earlier tags I posted of the FC7 Hemi clone convertible are also for a customer...the resto-mod tags are for my convertible :tool:
Quote from: anlauto on December 17, 2021, 07:22:56 PM
Quote from: TA/Z06/GSXR1100 on December 17, 2021, 06:13:43 PM
Question for the OP . Are these tags tied to a customer car...or your own?
The AAR tags belong to a customer's car that I'm restoring...the earlier tags I posted of the FC7 Hemi clone convertible are also for a customer...the resto-mod tags are for my convertible :tool:
In case if you haven't, you might want to obtain consent from the AAR's owner for the use of his tags as a basis for this thread ....or at least let him know about the upload. Just a suggestion.
Quote from: MoparLeo on December 15, 2021, 01:18:54 PM
The "rib" on the top and bottom appear to be narrower than the original. The numbers are closer to the rib than original. But really, a 1000 times better than it was before. So you could tell it from an original but maybe that was the makers intention to avoid fakes being passed for originals./font]
I totally agree with that statement , on SAAC forum we are not tearing apart the SFM plate number repro on public forum, to keep the détails that are wrong on repro staying there on next version but now they got it so good that sometime it's realy hard to say... i would say it's more important than the mopar fender tag ,because it's the Shelby VIN , but still , for an E-BODY i would prefer being able to always distinct a real one from a fake ...let's say it's no more possible to see differences then the cars with the broadcast sheet will be the highest valued car , hey wait !! they are reproducing those one too !!!! :help:
Quote from: TA/Z06/GSXR1100 on December 17, 2021, 08:36:04 PM
Quote from: anlauto on December 17, 2021, 07:22:56 PM
Quote from: TA/Z06/GSXR1100 on December 17, 2021, 06:13:43 PM
Question for the OP . Are these tags tied to a customer car...or your own?
The AAR tags belong to a customer's car that I'm restoring...the earlier tags I posted of the FC7 Hemi clone convertible are also for a customer...the resto-mod tags are for my convertible :tool:
In case if you haven't, you might want to obtain consent from the AAR's owner for the use of his tags as a basis for this thread ....or at least let him know about the upload. Just a suggestion.
.and how do you know I haven't ? :yes:
Quote from: anlauto on December 18, 2021, 04:03:27 AM
Quote from: TA/Z06/GSXR1100 on December 17, 2021, 08:36:04 PM
Quote from: anlauto on December 17, 2021, 07:22:56 PM
Quote from: TA/Z06/GSXR1100 on December 17, 2021, 06:13:43 PM
Question for the OP . Are these tags tied to a customer car...or your own?
The AAR tags belong to a customer's car that I'm restoring...the earlier tags I posted of the FC7 Hemi clone convertible are also for a customer...the resto-mod tags are for my convertible :tool:
In case if you haven't, you might want to obtain consent from the AAR's owner for the use of his tags as a basis for this thread ....or at least let him know about the upload. Just a suggestion.
.and how do you know I haven't ? :yes:
excerpt from my first sentence : " In case if you haven't" : )
I wasn't trying to derail your thread.