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Title: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: Wedg2Go on September 27, 2017, 12:55:35 PM
Goggle is not nice to me so I'll ask here.

The newer 17" rallye wheels...Anyone have knowledge what the torque specs might be? I need to approach this with caution since I don't need to warp the rotors.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Torque Spec For Newer Ralley Wheels
Post by: Cuda Cody on September 27, 2017, 01:33:48 PM
These are the ones that Year One sells, right?  I think @Shane Kelley (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/shane-kelley_440)  is running those.  My thought is if you are using the same studs as factory, then they should be the same torque?  Right?   :notsure:
Title: Re: Torque Spec For Newer Ralley Wheels
Post by: Wedg2Go on September 27, 2017, 01:40:30 PM
Cody

Yes, the same wheels. My concern would be a different alloy over the factory wheels of yesterday. There some worry, as well, that I could enlarge the hole in the wheel by over-tighting.

Title: Re: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: Shane Kelley on September 27, 2017, 02:26:46 PM
I hate to say it. But I never check torque on wheels. As far as I know these wheels didn't come with instructions listing any torque specs. I have been doing it so long I just go by feel and check them every now and then just to make sure nothing has loosened up. But in general aluminum wheels with 1/2 studs are 100 ft lbs. Since they are new wheels with paint on them be sure and recheck after driving it some. The paint might try and move under the lug nuts.
Title: Re: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: anlauto on September 27, 2017, 02:37:06 PM
Did you find you needed longer studs ? I know the Wilwood front studs are long enough, but wondering about the stock rear studs. :thinking:
Title: Re: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: 61K T/A on September 27, 2017, 02:46:43 PM
I torque mine to 95 ft/lbs. No problem here. Make sure you have at least 7 full turns on the lug nuts.
Title: Re: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: anlauto on September 27, 2017, 02:48:58 PM
Tight ;)
Title: Re: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: Shane Kelley on September 27, 2017, 03:17:48 PM
Quote from: anlauto on September 27, 2017, 02:37:06 PM
Did you find you needed longer studs ? I know the Wilwood front studs are long enough, but wondering about the stock rear studs. :thinking:
Actually no. With the lugs nuts that come with them they have a big wide conical mating area. So where the stud comes through the wheel it' a little over twice as thick as a steel wheel. Leaves about 3/4 inch of threads exposed. All the clamping force is spread over a bigger area. Instead of right where the stud comes through.
Title: Re: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: 61K T/A on September 28, 2017, 02:39:42 AM
I drive hard so I use 95 instead of the factory spec. Also I have new rotors and studs. Replacing your 47 year old studs might make sense. Make sure you tighten the lugs with the tire off the ground so you dont warp your rotors. I'm also running Hotchkis' TVS and Dr. Diff brakes and sticky tires.
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: cataclysm80 on September 28, 2017, 10:35:03 AM
Thanks for looking up the correct answer and sharing it with us.
I know I'll be saving this info.   :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: Chryco Psycho on September 30, 2017, 01:28:24 PM
I thought I reqd where 70 was max torque for the 1/2 " studs so I would be scared to stretch the stud too far at 90
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: RUNCHARGER on September 30, 2017, 03:02:29 PM
90 ft lbs for grade 8 according to this: In another dig for my Chrysler is superior to GM argument I always wondered about 7/16" wheel studs used in GM products, kind of matched their small brakes, 10 and 12 bolt rear axles and such.

https://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/bolts/US-Recommended-Torque.aspx
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: Tantster on October 16, 2017, 06:36:55 AM
Just put mine on. No specs sent so we went 90 lbs.
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: Chryco Psycho on October 16, 2017, 07:00:42 AM
Welcome @Tantster (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/tantster_1022)
the wheels look great !!
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: Cuda Cody on October 16, 2017, 07:06:36 AM
Looks great @Tantster (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/tantster_1022)  and Welcome to the site!   :welcome:
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: Tantster on November 01, 2017, 06:34:19 PM
New shoes on.
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: Chryco Psycho on November 01, 2017, 07:02:59 PM
Looks Great & Welcome !
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: CudaMoparRay on November 02, 2017, 12:42:17 AM
Those wheels just look so good on our cars as an upgrade that keeps the original OEM spirit. Welcome
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: fc7cuda on November 02, 2017, 05:33:16 AM
Quote from: CudaMoparRay on November 02, 2017, 12:42:17 AM
Those wheels just look so good on our cars as an upgrade that keeps the original OEM spirit. Welcome

:iagree: Nice reflection off the trim ring.  :bigthumb:
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: anlauto on November 02, 2017, 05:58:25 AM
Quote from: fc7cuda on November 02, 2017, 05:33:16 AM
Quote from: CudaMoparRay on November 02, 2017, 12:42:17 AM
Those wheels just look so good on our cars as an upgrade that keeps the original OEM spirit. Welcome

:iagree: Nice reflection off the trim ring.  :bigthumb:

It's not a trim ring, it's solid aluminum......that's the cool thing ! :drooling:
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: Shane Kelley on November 02, 2017, 07:05:36 AM
Quote from: anlauto on November 02, 2017, 05:58:25 AM
Quote from: fc7cuda on November 02, 2017, 05:33:16 AM
Quote from: CudaMoparRay on November 02, 2017, 12:42:17 AM
Those wheels just look so good on our cars as an upgrade that keeps the original OEM spirit. Welcome

:iagree: Nice reflection off the trim ring.  :bigthumb:

It's not a trim ring, it's solid aluminum......that's the cool thing ! :drooling:
Most people at car shows rarely catch that they are not factory rally's. Just looking at the car the wheels do look like they have trim rings.
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: Wedg2Go on November 02, 2017, 08:07:12 AM
Tantster -  :welcome: to E-Bodies and the world of 17s!

Looks like you have a great build going on there!

Do you have more photos to share?
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: Tantster on November 06, 2017, 05:12:54 PM
Just got her back from detail shop today.
Title: Re: Solved: Torque Spec For Newer Rallye Wheels
Post by: cataclysm80 on November 17, 2017, 04:57:23 PM
I've seen original rear brake drums that had a 2 inch wide red paint line on them, which could be seen through the holes in the original rallye wheels.

Can you still see any of the brake drum through the holes on these new larger wheels?
Would it be good to paint that line on the brake drums, or better to leave it off if it only half shows?