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I have someone contacting me looking for an original convertible rear glass window. He wants to find an original with a Pentastar.

I know over the last 50 years there has been plenty of replacement glass made, can anybody confirm the originals had a Pentastar ?

A friend has what he thinks are originals and they both say PPG on them, no Pentastar  :dunno:

@Convertcuda (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/convertcuda_50)  any thoughts ?

Quote from: Chaos-N-Mayhem on July 15, 2020, 08:43:13 PM
Wonder if the ECS folks would know about the glass and if it had a pentastar.

I bet they would.

If anybody has an original with a Pentastar on it, I would love to see a picture, and if any one has an original for sale, I know a guy looking for one with the Pentastar

According to MMC, there is supposed to be a pentastar. Mine doesn't have a pentastar, it looks exactly like the picture mccannix posted.

Very interesting, thanks for posting that  :twothumbsup:

@anlauto (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/anlauto_19)

I also found a hot sticker under my chrome trim,   thought someone shoved a random sticker between the cracks until i saw your picture ! 

Quote from: 70vert on September 21, 2021, 04:02:02 PM
My 70 Challenger convertible top has a plastic back window, was glass an option or standard?
Mine was a rotted mess when I got it, with a fender tag but no build sheet so not sure. I hadn't really been too concerned since not a show car, and I generally keep the top up and back window down/open (black top & interior, no A/C, in Houston) so it seldom is seen. But I love this site and the info provided, so interesting!

-Rick

I believe they were all originally glass windows. If anyone knows different, let us know.

I can check NIKKI's later today....

Just checked my 71 challenger and it has a PPG logo. I don't believe the examples shown from MMC are from a convert rear window. MMC states AS4 rating and the examples show AS2.

From the factory they were all glass back windows in my opinion, but can anybody tell me whether or not there were "clear" back windows AND/OR "tinted" ? I believe they were all clear  :dunno:

 From my 71 convertible. The top was replaced in the early 80s and I specified the window had to be like an original glass window. This may be a replacement.
Terry W.

No star on mine either

Posting a picture of my HOT label just to document the factory process.

Also sorry to side track but since we are talking about convertibles:

- is the side glass correct in pics hopefully ?

- the rear view mirror is hard to find if I recall reading correctly?  I have mine but heavy corrosion on thinner sheetmetal under cover.    The stem has lots of pitting also but not of concern.   are any parts available?

I've had 2 71 verts and a 70 vert. All 3 were glass.

Alan,
ALL factory E-Body convertible rear glass (curtain) were glass. Never plastic. Plastic was a low cost replacement.
They were all Clear glass and never TINT, even with G11 All Glass Tinted. CGW
All had a Pentastar. Also a date code. Sometimes a very faint white stamp and difficult to see. Sometimes faded over time.
I can post pictures.

Very early replacements came with the PPG emblem, but no Pentastar.
Later replacement from other vendors used PPG design glass, but sold under a different brand such as HURCULITE. We see these a lot.

Lastly: what year and date code is your friend looking for?

I have successfully installed an original rear glass, into a new reproduction rear curtain of the convertible top.

Quote from: anlauto on September 22, 2021, 07:49:37 AM
From the factory they were all glass back windows in my opinion, but can anybody tell me whether or not there were "clear" back windows AND/OR "tinted" ? I believe they were all clear  :dunno:

Original 1970 'cuda340 convertible rear glass. Clear.
Date code 9M = 1969 12th month

Quote from: Jocigar on September 23, 2021, 12:21:10 PM
- is the side glass correct in pics hopefully ?

- the rear view mirror is hard to find if I recall reading correctly?  I have mine but heavy corrosion on thinner sheetmetal under cover.    The stem has lots of pitting also but not of concern.   are any parts available?

Are you concerned that your rear side windows are not convertible specific? Take a look at the following pictures.

Rear view mirror parts: are you needing the two thin metal stem attaching pieces? They are being reproduced.

https://pgclassic.com/collections/convertible/products/2211

Continues.

Thanks for the clarification and the awesome pictures... :twothumbsup:

What date code are you looking for?

[mention]cudaized [/mention] I'm looking for one for a 70 cuda with a March 11 production schedule date


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@cudaized (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cudaized_212), thank for posting pictures, I measure ~ 11" wide so should be good.

link is also exactly what I needed for rear view mirror  Thx!


So the door glass is same for hardtop vs vert ?  70-74 ?

In the last pictures, there is a black plastic piece behind etching.  I only found one of those sitting at the bottom of opening... no idea where is goes and the other side did not have it.

Quote from: Jocigar on September 27, 2021, 08:56:10 AM
So the door glass is same for hardtop vs vert ?  70-74 ?

In the last pictures, there is a black plastic piece behind etching.  I only found one of those sitting at the bottom of opening... no idea where is goes and the other side did not have it.

No. The convertible door glass is not the same as a hard top door glass.
A hard top door glass is rounded on the top, forward section. The section that seals against the roof and trailing edge of the weather seal.
The convertible door glass is sharp angled, square-ish, on the top forward section. The section that seals near the top weather strip and the windshield rear weather seal.
Both glass will fit in the door mechanisms (manual or power windows) regulators. A hard top (curved top front) will fit if used for a convertible, BUT, the top leading edge will not seal to the squarish weather seals. It will be noticeable.

The last picture: those black plastic pieces, which often get dislodged, are water deflectors. They come loose and fall down behind the window regulators. Often trapping debris and blocking the natural water flow down and out of the body. Then trapped water begins the evil rust process from the inside.
They direct water, flowing off of the top material, down and outwards. Towards the inner quarter panel metal and out the normal drains of the forward rocker panels. Instead of inside the passenger cabin.

I will post a different thread on the installation location of the black plastic water deflectors.

Ola Nilsson

 Here is difference of door glass. Hardtop on right and convertible on left. Comparing the front top corners of glass. This is for Challenger but the Cuda is the same noticeable difference.
Terry W.

Quote from: Jocigar on September 27, 2021, 08:56:10 AM

@cudaized (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cudaized_212)
In the last pictures, there is a black plastic piece behind etching.  I only found one of those sitting at the bottom of opening... no idea where is goes and the other side did not have it.

I have created a new post on the black water deflectors.

Ola