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Title: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Markp on February 06, 2017, 12:12:12 PM
Is this a little steep for a AAR?


http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active/1970%20Plymouth%20Cuda%20AAR/135849
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: anlauto on February 06, 2017, 12:18:38 PM
Not really for a four speed rubber bumper car if it's all original and documented. :alan2cents:
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Cuda Cody on February 06, 2017, 12:19:55 PM
I wish them luck.  Might be a tad on the high end, but it has a lot to like if it's the real deal.
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Markp on February 06, 2017, 12:24:42 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows what was the highest selling price for a perfectly restored AAR or T/A??
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: MoparDave on February 06, 2017, 12:34:52 PM
RK is usually pretty ambitious on pricing.
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: anlauto on February 06, 2017, 12:57:12 PM
Quote from: Markp on February 06, 2017, 12:24:42 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows what was the highest selling price for a perfectly restored AAR or T/A??

Over $225K I believe.
Mecum just sold this red one last month for $195K... https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0117-269379/1970-plymouth-aar-cuda/
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Markp on February 06, 2017, 12:59:01 PM
Quote from: anlauto on February 06, 2017, 12:57:12 PM
Quote from: Markp on February 06, 2017, 12:24:42 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows what was the highest selling price for a perfectly restored AAR or T/A??

Over $225K I believe.
Mecum just sold a red one last month for $175K...

Get the F$$$ out of here are you serious?
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: anlauto on February 06, 2017, 01:04:37 PM
$195K actually
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: blown motor on February 06, 2017, 01:55:23 PM
What he said. I was there and watched it cross the block.
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: JS29 on February 06, 2017, 02:51:47 PM
Plus  A 10 % buyers premium.
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: 61K T/A on February 06, 2017, 03:01:15 PM
And the hood is bowed too.
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: ec_co on February 06, 2017, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: 61K T/A on February 06, 2017, 03:01:15 PM
And the hood is bowed too.

that means its a proper AAR  :pokeeye:
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: 61K T/A on February 06, 2017, 04:41:03 PM
Not for $175K.
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Cudakiller70 on February 06, 2017, 06:19:00 PM
Mark you need to get out and sell some more work :)
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Beep Beep Dave on February 18, 2017, 06:57:30 AM
Quote from: anlauto on February 06, 2017, 12:57:12 PM
Quote from: Markp on February 06, 2017, 12:24:42 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows what was the highest selling price for a perfectly restored AAR or T/A??

Over $225K I believe.
Mecum just sold this red one last month for $195K... https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0117-269379/1970-plymouth-aar-cuda/

Tim Wellborn sold that AAR for $140k a couple years before at the same auction....even had the same writeup in this years auction....guess who I heard bought it for the $195k + fees....yes Tim Wellborn.

Dave
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: anlauto on February 18, 2017, 07:04:21 AM
Quote from: Beep Beep Dave on February 18, 2017, 06:57:30 AM
Quote from: anlauto on February 06, 2017, 12:57:12 PM
Quote from: Markp on February 06, 2017, 12:24:42 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows what was the highest selling price for a perfectly restored AAR or T/A??

Over $225K I believe.
Mecum just sold this red one last month for $195K... https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0117-269379/1970-plymouth-aar-cuda/



Tim Wellborn sold that AAR for $140k a couple years before at the same auction....even had the same writeup in this years auction....guess who I heard bought it for the $195k + fees....yes Tim Wellborn.

Dave

Oh....So now Tim can enjoy having "seller's remorse" from selling it a couple of years ago, and now he can enjoy "buyer's remorse"... :haha:

I would pay attention to what Tim does though, I'm pretty sure he has a good understanding of the market and where it's going.


Oh.....and what's a B Body guy like you doing in an E Body place like this @Beep Beep Dave (http://forum.e-bodies.org/index.php?action=profile;u=228) ? :o :rofl:
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Beep Beep Dave on February 18, 2017, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: anlauto on February 18, 2017, 07:04:21 AM
Quote from: Beep Beep Dave on February 18, 2017, 06:57:30 AM
Quote from: anlauto on February 06, 2017, 12:57:12 PM
Quote from: Markp on February 06, 2017, 12:24:42 PM
Just wondering if anyone knows what was the highest selling price for a perfectly restored AAR or T/A??

Over $225K I believe.
Mecum just sold this red one last month for $195K... https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0117-269379/1970-plymouth-aar-cuda/



Tim Wellborn sold that AAR for $140k a couple years before at the same auction....even had the same writeup in this years auction....guess who I heard bought it for the $195k + fees....yes Tim Wellborn.

Dave

Oh....So now Tim can enjoy having "seller's remorse" from selling it a couple of years ago, and now he can enjoy "buyer's remorse"... :haha:

I would pay attention to what Tim does though, I'm pretty sure he has a good understanding of the market and where it's going.


Oh.....and what's a B Body guy like you doing in an E Body place like this @Beep Beep Dave (http://forum.e-bodies.org/index.php?action=profile;u=228) ? :o :rofl:

That's what I heard so it would be good if someone could verify the story.

I thought I might learn something here, plus it gives me an opportunity to use the board which has quite a few great features!

Dave
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Cuda Cody on February 18, 2017, 07:53:30 AM
Someday I have to see Tim's collection.  Has anyone seen it in person?  Is it as impressive as everyone says it is?
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: JS29 on February 18, 2017, 07:54:58 AM
Yes that story is true! I saw the car on the block on T-V and the announcer said he wanted it back.   
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: anlauto on February 18, 2017, 09:15:56 AM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on February 18, 2017, 07:53:30 AM
Someday I have to see Tim's collection.  Has anyone seen it in person?  Is it as impressive as everyone says it is?

I would love to see it too...I met Tim and his wife at MCACN back in 2015....super nice couple ! :drinkingbud:
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: RUNCHARGER on February 18, 2017, 09:57:27 AM
I too have to see that collection. Just the 71 Chargers would be enough to keep me enthused.
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Cuda Cody on February 18, 2017, 10:23:54 AM
Road trip!!!!   :stayinlane:  A big ol E-Bodies.org road trip.   :D
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Brads70 on February 18, 2017, 05:34:27 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on February 18, 2017, 10:23:54 AM
Road trip!!!!   :stayinlane:  A big ol E-Bodies.org road trip.   :D

I'm in, can I hitch a ride with you Alan!  :)
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Aar1064 on February 18, 2017, 06:44:31 PM
I've been there and it's really a great museum. Some really great cars and atmosphere is super cool. My AAR is identical to the one he has and he met me there on a closed day so I could take some reference pictures of it for my restoration. Not long before I got there he had found a 70 sublime Hemi road runner. It was a survivor and rough just in the right places. It's an old dealership with a parts department and it's stocked full of NOS parts. Super cool guy with a dream garage.

As far as the AAR in question, I think it's right on par.

Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Jim AAR on November 18, 2017, 06:26:17 PM
Correct me if ìm wrong, but the Trunk Floor Pan is incorrect for this car.

The Access Plates for the Rear Shocks should be on TOP of the towers and not facing the back (I know mine are and that's the only place I have ever seen them).

Wasn't that only on 71 Cuda`s ?
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: anlauto on November 18, 2017, 07:13:26 PM
You're correct, floor is wrong, most likely a replacement :alan2cents:
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Jim AAR on November 18, 2017, 07:19:15 PM
Hmmmmm, if they made a mistake like that using a 71 floor pan on a 70, I wonder what else they did wrong or took shortcuts on...

Oh well, buyer beware..... :o
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: 69bronzeT5 on November 19, 2017, 09:37:37 PM
I LOVE red AARs......  :drooling:
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: 71GranCoupe on November 23, 2017, 03:26:40 PM
Nice car, but definitely an oversight on the trunk floor. Possibly the builder was more interested in better access to the shocks than originality.  :dunno: Just a possibility.
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: anlauto on November 23, 2017, 06:17:16 PM
Quote from: 71GranCoupe on November 23, 2017, 03:26:40 PM
Nice car, but definitely an oversight on the trunk floor. Possibly the builder was more interested in better access to the shocks than originality.  :dunno: Just a possibility.

There is a chance it was done by a shop that does all makes and models....these types of shops (mostly) do nice work but impossible for them to know all the ins and outs of all the different cars...
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: mjb765 on November 23, 2017, 07:29:29 PM
and the tach doesn't work....
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: Jim AAR on November 23, 2017, 08:30:58 PM
$129.000 for a Partial matching Engine & Trans VIN (WTF is that supposed to be, it either matches or it doesn't) is what would scare me off.

But if they can get that for a non numbers matching car , it's better for those of us that have matching numbers, IMHO........
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: kdcarman on November 24, 2017, 12:09:21 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 23, 2017, 06:17:16 PM
Quote from: 71GranCoupe on November 23, 2017, 03:26:40 PM
Nice car, but definitely an oversight on the trunk floor. Possibly the builder was more interested in better access to the shocks than originality.  :dunno: Just a possibility.

There is a chance it was done by a shop that does all makes and models....these types of shops (mostly) do nice work but impossible for them to know all the ins and outs of all the different cars...

ding ding ding - that's likely the answer - and why I shipped my car to Canada for restoration.   :bigthumb:
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: 71-440 on January 12, 2018, 04:55:37 PM
Quote from: Cuda Cody on February 18, 2017, 07:53:30 AM
Someday I have to see Tim's collection.  Has anyone seen it in person?  Is it as impressive as everyone says it is?

I was there with my '09

Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: 71-440 on January 12, 2018, 05:23:08 PM
Some pics from Wellborn



Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: cuda dad on January 12, 2018, 08:12:46 PM
Quote from: Jim AAR on November 23, 2017, 08:30:58 PM
$129.000 for a Partial matching Engine & Trans VIN (WTF is that supposed to be, it either matches or it doesn't) is what would scare me off.

But if they can get that for a non numbers matching car , it's better for those of us that have matching numbers, IMHO........
Perhaps the wording is off and they should have said Matching Partial VIN.  They show pictures of the partial VIN on the engine and transmission in the ad.  The only Mopars that I am aware of with a complete VIN on the engine and transmission are early 1969.  The 1968's I have seen are partial and the 1969's are partial beginning in January 1969.  As far as I know the rest of the years are partial VINs.
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: kathyscuda on February 11, 2018, 05:44:04 AM
there's quality driver AAR's and T/A's for sale all over for 50 to 75k
YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR THEM.
buying from a dealer your goin to pay a huge markup.
that big building and electricity is not free.


Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: 340challconvert on February 11, 2018, 06:39:25 AM
RK is always STEEP.
:takemymoney:

https://www.rkmotors.com/vehicles/2559/1970-plymouth-cuda-aar
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: HP_Cuda on February 11, 2018, 12:33:00 PM

Joe: "Hey Bob do deep and I'll throw the football"

Bob: "Why do I need to go deep?"

Joe: "This might be your last chance to get a sucker at this price for your AAR"

:haha:
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: 340challconvert on February 12, 2018, 05:26:17 AM
As Kathy posted; There are really nice AAR's out there for $30-$50K less then RK's price.
For that dollar amount, the car should be totally correct, with everything in place and functioning as it should and have full documentation. 

These cars trade between collectors and flippers looking to turn a quick profit, not for someone to drive and enjoy.
It is a nice car, and for that money will be put into storage until the next flip or next person comes along who thinks they can make an extra $20K or more on the car.
:popcorn:
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: 340challconvert on February 12, 2018, 05:51:00 AM
1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda's for sale in Hemmings
Just some examples of available cars.  Inspection of each car carefully of course, but prices are more reasonable.

1970 Plymouth AAR 27 Rockville, MD (Dealer)
'70 PLYMOUTH AAR 'CUDA 1 of only 2,724 built  Professional Rotisserie Restoration
Offered By: Fleming's Ultimate Garage  $80,000


1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda  35 Palm Beach Gardens, FL
1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda Offered for sale is this incredible 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda. This is an iconic American Muscle Car finished in a fantastic..$109,995



1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda  33 Calgary, AB
76109 miles showing, EV2 Tor-Red, Black interior, Original numbers matching 340 Six Barrel, c/w Auto transmission. Galen Govier Registry documentation....Offered By: Private Seller  $89,900


1970 Plymouth AAR  42 Chatsworth, CA
The 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda offered for sale here is a beautiful example restored in its original B5- Blue Fire with black interior combination....
Offered By: Fusion Luxury Motors  No price listed.

Link: https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/aar
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: mjb765 on February 12, 2018, 05:45:23 PM
Quote from: 340challconvert on February 12, 2018, 05:51:00 AM
1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda's for sale in Hemmings
Just some examples of available cars.  Inspection of each car carefully of course, but prices are more reasonable.

1970 Plymouth AAR 27 Rockville, MD (Dealer)
'70 PLYMOUTH AAR 'CUDA 1 of only 2,724 built  Professional Rotisserie Restoration
Offered By: Fleming's Ultimate Garage
$109,995

1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda  35 Palm Beach Gardens, FL
1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda Offered for sale is this incredible 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda. This is an iconic American Muscle Car finished in a fantastic... More
Offered By: Private Seller  $80,000


1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda  33 Calgary, AB
76109 miles showing, EV2 Tor-Red, Black interior, Original numbers matching 340 Six Barrel, c/w Auto transmission. Galen Govier Registry documentation....Offered By: Private Seller  $89,900


1970 Plymouth AAR  42 Chatsworth, CA
The 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda offered for sale here is a beautiful example restored in its original B5- Blue Fire with black interior combination....
Offered By: Fusion Luxury Motors  No price listed.

Link: https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/aar

The Flemings car is $80K and the Palm beach car is $109
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: 340challconvert on February 12, 2018, 06:18:47 PM
Quote from: mjb765 on February 12, 2018, 05:45:23 PM
Quote from: 340challconvert on February 12, 2018, 05:51:00 AM
1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda's for sale in Hemmings
Just some examples of available cars.  Inspection of each car carefully of course, but prices are more reasonable.

1970 Plymouth AAR 27 Rockville, MD (Dealer)
'70 PLYMOUTH AAR 'CUDA 1 of only 2,724 built  Professional Rotisserie Restoration
Offered By: Fleming's Ultimate Garage 79,990


1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda  35 Palm Beach Gardens, FL
1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda Offered for sale is this incredible 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda. This is an iconic American Muscle Car finished in a fantastic... More
Offered By: Private Seller  $109, 995


1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda  33 Calgary, AB
76109 miles showing, EV2 Tor-Red, Black interior, Original numbers matching 340 Six Barrel, c/w Auto transmission. Galen Govier Registry documentation....Offered By: Private Seller  $89,900


1970 Plymouth AAR  42 Chatsworth, CA
The 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda offered for sale here is a beautiful example restored in its original B5- Blue Fire with black interior combination....
Offered By: Fusion Luxury Motors  No price listed.

Link: https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/aar

The Flemings car is $80K and the Palm beach car is $109

I cut and pasted from Hemmings web site; do they have the prices listed incorrectly?

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/aar
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: mjb765 on February 14, 2018, 06:38:09 PM
Quote from: 340challconvert on February 12, 2018, 06:18:47 PM
Quote from: mjb765 on February 12, 2018, 05:45:23 PM
Quote from: 340challconvert on February 12, 2018, 05:51:00 AM
1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda's for sale in Hemmings
Just some examples of available cars.  Inspection of each car carefully of course, but prices are more reasonable.

1970 Plymouth AAR 27 Rockville, MD (Dealer)
'70 PLYMOUTH AAR 'CUDA 1 of only 2,724 built  Professional Rotisserie Restoration
Offered By: Fleming's Ultimate Garage 79,990


1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda  35 Palm Beach Gardens, FL
1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda Offered for sale is this incredible 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda. This is an iconic American Muscle Car finished in a fantastic... More
Offered By: Private Seller  $109, 995


1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda  33 Calgary, AB
76109 miles showing, EV2 Tor-Red, Black interior, Original numbers matching 340 Six Barrel, c/w Auto transmission. Galen Govier Registry documentation....Offered By: Private Seller  $89,900


1970 Plymouth AAR  42 Chatsworth, CA
The 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda offered for sale here is a beautiful example restored in its original B5- Blue Fire with black interior combination....
Offered By: Fusion Luxury Motors  No price listed.

Link: https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/aar

The Flemings car is $80K and the Palm beach car is $109

I cut and pasted from Hemmings web site; do they have the prices listed incorrectly?

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/aar


Your original post is correct now  :haha:  You changed it....the edit date and time gave it away...and look at what I quoted from your post. it's different than what your post says now.
Title: Re: AAR for sale is this too much?
Post by: 340challconvert on February 15, 2018, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: mjb765 on February 14, 2018, 06:38:09 PM
Quote from: 340challconvert on February 12, 2018, 06:18:47 PM
Quote from: mjb765 on February 12, 2018, 05:45:23 PM
Quote from: 340challconvert on February 12, 2018, 05:51:00 AM
1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda's for sale in Hemmings
Just some examples of available cars.  Inspection of each car carefully of course, but prices are more reasonable.

1970 Plymouth AAR 27 Rockville, MD (Dealer)
'70 PLYMOUTH AAR 'CUDA 1 of only 2,724 built  Professional Rotisserie Restoration
Offered By: Fleming's Ultimate Garage 79,990


1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda  35 Palm Beach Gardens, FL
1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda Offered for sale is this incredible 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda. This is an iconic American Muscle Car finished in a fantastic... More
Offered By: Private Seller  $109, 995


1970 Plymouth AAR Cuda  33 Calgary, AB
76109 miles showing, EV2 Tor-Red, Black interior, Original numbers matching 340 Six Barrel, c/w Auto transmission. Galen Govier Registry documentation....Offered By: Private Seller  $89,900


1970 Plymouth AAR  42 Chatsworth, CA
The 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda offered for sale here is a beautiful example restored in its original B5- Blue Fire with black interior combination....
Offered By: Fusion Luxury Motors  No price listed.

Link: https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/aar

The Flemings car is $80K and the Palm beach car is $109

I cut and pasted from Hemmings web site; do they have the prices listed incorrectly?

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/aar


Your original post is correct now  :haha:  You changed it....the edit date and time gave it away...and look at what I quoted from your post. it's different than what your post says now.

You are correct, I did start to change it to your numbers when I saw your post, but thought it prudent to check it out one more time ( I have a subscription to Hemmings-so I get their ads early)
When I saw that my original post (which was copied directly from the Hemming's Ads) had the correct numbers, I put it back the way it was)
:)
Just a thought as per your comments!