My apologies if this has been asked before. Just curious if I buy a product from a US based vendor and have it shipped to Canada do I pay customs and duty charges on top of the regular shipping charges?
Thanks in advance.
Steve
I think it depends on the value of the item. I've had smaller items mailed to me and they just come through like regular mail. Even smaller boxes that are sent parcel post. I'm not sure how it works with bigger items. Also, something to be aware of is that there should be no state tax applied to your purchase since it's being sent out of state. I learned that from the good people at Roseville Moparts.
Depends a lot of shipment method...
AVOID UPS at any cost! They will charge full customs duty and a brokerage fee, you sometimes end up with more feesthanthe item is worth, always a surprise...
DO USE USPS (Postal service), package will simply come in the regular mail, and 90% of the time there will be no customs. In all cases, have the sender put the true value of the item on the forms, and buy the cheap insurance, if anything happens, you"ll be glad you did.
Amazon usually put the fees upfront before shipment so there are usually no surprises.
Ben
With small stuff it's like 50/50 whether or not you pay 13% tax....but YES most larger items you will and of course There is a brokerage fee. CBSA is $9.95 but others like UPS can charge whatever they want ! :verymad:
Hey something I may actually know something about!
The technical rule is all goods over 20 dollars, sent by courier, are subject to duties and taxes. Most commonly it's not applied on smaller items, but the customs act allows for it. Brokerage firms like UPS etc. sometimes charge a flat rate duty which is payed weather the good is subject to duties or not. I live so close to the border that I tend to go and pick up stuff to avoid all of that mess.
Short answer is Yes
If the value is under $100 or so it is not worth the time / cost to charge the taxes & Duty . Otherwise it should get charged the extra .
UPS as above .... Never Ever use UBS , I ordered a a$30 part & Specified Not to ship UPS , it it arrives at the door with a brown Garbage truck , the driver wants $88 , in fees , I just laughed & told him to keep it !!
I contacted the seller & asked him what was specified about shipping to which he replied "USPS Only" so I told him to ship me another one & he could file a claim for the first one he sent up , he could not believe the charges either . The best bet is to ship to at depot at the border & go pick it up & import it in person on anything expensive .
Quote from: anlauto on March 18, 2019, 10:19:29 AM
With small stuff it's like 50/50 whether or not you pay 13% tax....but YES most larger items you will and of course There is a brokerage fee. CBSA is $9.95 but others like UPS can charge whatever they want ! :verymad:
And UPS usually wants a lot!
72 challenger is spot on rules wise, but in my experience, it take a value of about $80cdn for the 13% hst/brokerage to be charged at the border. (UPS however will add a $45 brokerage fee to a $10 part)
It's going to get a lot worse shortly. I would suggest Canadians import all the parts they figure they are going to need in the near future.
Quote from: dodj on March 19, 2019, 03:20:13 AM
Quote from: anlauto on March 18, 2019, 10:19:29 AM
With small stuff it's like 50/50 whether or not you pay 13% tax....but YES most larger items you will and of course There is a brokerage fee. CBSA is $9.95 but others like UPS can charge whatever they want ! :verymad:
And UPS usually wants a lot!
72 challenger is spot on rules wise
I may or may not work at Canada border Services. There is no set value that Officers are told to not look at. It's up to the officers discretion. As postal is such a high volume and only growing, items are often overlooked when under a certain value. HOWEVER. Lying to CBSA is a national pastime here in Canada. From time to time, even low value shipments need to be inspected. That's why a lot of people say it's 50/50.
I will over simplify but most car parts are duty free, mainly what applies is GST. Most people who cross the border don't make the difference. They just assume if CBSA took money = customs duties.
It's obviously a lot more complex then that, especially with Commercial importations.
Recently a brokerage was sued for taking in money that it was not due and had to refund a ton of fees. I think it was in the USA though? don't quote me on that.
Yep, what the man said. Also, be aware that if you have a mail box in the US and it's in the same state as your parts supplier, you're going to get dinged for their state tax, so I try to not buy from New York suppliers in my case. The border guys are hit and miss; I don't lie to them about value, as I had one occasion early on, where I didn't have the invoice and they took the stuff into their lair and got on the internet and confirmed what I'd told them and I was damn glad I hadn't BS'd them, because then you're a target everytime you go back and who needs the misery? I have also used USPS and they are good- period. Add my name to the list of those screwed by UPS and who will never use them at all. :cheers:
I know a certain member here that has things shipped to his inlaws and comes down to pick the stuff up... :pokeeye:
Quote from: BIGSHCLUNK on March 20, 2019, 02:07:02 PM
I know a certain member here that has things shipped to his inlaws and comes down to pick the stuff up... :pokeeye:
I thought I was the only one that knew about that! :haha: :rofl:
Quote from: Slotts on March 20, 2019, 03:21:15 PM
Quote from: BIGSHCLUNK on March 20, 2019, 02:07:02 PM
I know a certain member here that has things shipped to his inlaws and comes down to pick the stuff up... :pokeeye:
I thought I was the only one that knew about that! :haha: :rofl:
:haha: :rofl: hell I not only know but may have been involved a time or two..... :banana: :rofl:
Living in Canada can really suck sometimes... we pay threw the nose for stuff. My old business I used to just double the catolog price and would be pretty close usually. I had so many issues with getting taxidermy forums delivered they would often split my order up, deliver 1 box a day and nail me $60-100 per time. I went down on the 3rd day right at opening and demanded my 3rd part and they still try'd to charge me a delivery fee of $40! After blowing a gasket and me threating to call the cops they let me walk out with my package at no cost. (nor should there have been, tracking showed all 3 boxes arrived at the same time ) I love Bass Pro Shops and consider it my second home but pricing is not even close to inline with you guys south of the boarder and it's really frusterating. I used to use a hot rod shop for all my parts from the states and even with him making his cut it was always cheeper for me in the long run including shipping.
Quote from: BIGSHCLUNK on March 20, 2019, 02:07:02 PM
I know a certain member here that has things shipped to his inlaws and comes down to pick the stuff up... :pokeeye:
:notsure: :lurking:
:rofl: :rofl:.................. :wave:
:-X
Jim
I can feel the pain our of Canadian members. I lived in Canada for most of my life and restored a '65 Mustang up there. USPS and my parents in the US where the best bet.
Now one other thing. When I restored my Mustang, the Canadian dollar was only worth 62 cents!! Some of you may remember that horrible time ):
An American dollar cost me $1.60!!
Yeah: It's costing us about $1.40 right now. It's really tough to build them up here but we still do.
I just sold a radio delete plate to a gentleman in Canada for a A-body. I took it to the post office today to get a shipping price and was shocked. The box is about 10" long and 4" high and weights about 3 ounces. I could ship regular parcel post for $10.95. I told them I want $50.00 insurance ( cost of the part) and was told I could not get insurance on parcel post and had to ship priority that comes with $200.00 insurance for a shipping price of $39.95. Crazy-$40.00 shipping to get insurance on a $50.00 part. I also have to fill out custom papers.
WOW
JS27
Yup...Goes both ways....now you know why my ads say NO SHIPPING....it usually cost more to ship something these days then the part is worth... :crying:
Quote from: js27 on April 03, 2019, 11:37:21 AM
I just sold a radio delete plate to a gentleman in Canada for a A-body. I took it to the post office today to get a shipping price and was shocked. The box is about 10" long and 4" high and weights about 3 ounces. I could ship regular parcel post for $10.95. I told them I want $50.00 insurance ( cost of the part) and was told I could not get insurance on parcel post and had to ship priority that comes with $200.00 insurance for a shipping price of $39.95. Crazy-$40.00 shipping to get insurance on a $50.00 part. I also have to fill out custom papers.
WOW
JS27
@js27 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/js27_117) Where is it going in Canada and how quick does he need it? I'll be in Ohio next week. If you can get it there I can bring it back and mail it from here.
Quote from: blown motor on April 03, 2019, 12:25:44 PM
Quote from: js27 on April 03, 2019, 11:37:21 AM
I just sold a radio delete plate to a gentleman in Canada for a A-body. I took it to the post office today to get a shipping price and was shocked. The box is about 10" long and 4" high and weights about 3 ounces. I could ship regular parcel post for $10.95. I told them I want $50.00 insurance ( cost of the part) and was told I could not get insurance on parcel post and had to ship priority that comes with $200.00 insurance for a shipping price of $39.95. Crazy-$40.00 shipping to get insurance on a $50.00 part. I also have to fill out custom papers.
WOW
JS27
@js27 (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/js27_117) Where is it going in Canada and how quick does he need it? I'll be in Ohio next week. If you can get it there I can bring it back and mail it from here.
Thank you so much for the kind offer. I talked to the gentleman last night is he is comfortable with me just mailing to him without the insurance. Again Thank You for being a true Mopar Guy.
JS27
I also stay away from any seller that uses the "Global Shipping Program". I believe everything goes to a central place in Kentucky and the items are sent from there. That system automatically tacks on an "import fee". I got lucky once and contacted the seller, who used another one of his shipping services that was even cheaper than USPS.
Yup happened to me before also shipping was as much as I paid for the part. Example rear sway bar for a ebody Sway bar was $85 shipping $70 ARG messed up!!
Yea been hit by UPS a couple times but I stung them once. True story. My wife answered when they came to the door and asked for fee. She gave the driver her credit card. Either he wrote it down wrong or could not read it so the charge was refused. Couple weeks later I get a letter from UPS saying you owe us $$$. I have had a hate on for UPS for this for a while. I wrote back a long letter - basically said go jump in a lake - your fees are unfair - I think I even accused them of misleading business practices. Thing is their fee is mostly a brokerage service fee (not duties - just another UPS fee) - so I said you advertise that you can "deliver" the shipment for $X then try to collect $x+$y for that same "delivery". I said in the letter I am happy to pay the taxes and any duties but not any additional UPS fees. I sent a copy of the letter to the Ministry of Consumer Affairs and the Competition Bureau (or someone in Ottawa). Surprisingly one of the government agencies responded and asked UPS to address my point. I forget exactly what they said but UPS cancelled the charge.
Never an issue with Rockauto - they do this right - Rockauto is the importer of record - they handle the brokerage service through their corporate account. Eastwood through Fedex has been ok too - though I am not sure they are as clear and complete on it as Rockauto.
One kicker is Tech Authority (manuals) only uses UPS exclusively. I think it might have been the first shipment I got from them that triggered my letter. Since then I pick it up in Niagara Falls NY.
I did order my tranny rebuild kit from a company in California (Trans Warehouse?) that also shipped only UPS. Through that I found that certain international shipping options allow you to pre-pay the brokerage fee and taxes to UPS when it hits the border and if you do that their fees are more reasonable.
Ya...if a place only ships by ups, I go somewhere else.