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Title: Looking at this AAR
Post by: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 08, 2018, 03:45:47 AM
As I mentioned above looking at this car. SC car, buildsheets, one repaint, engine, tranny, brakes, front suspension rebuild. Looking for comments on what is not original.
Thanks for the help

Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 08, 2018, 03:50:36 AM
More pics
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 08, 2018, 04:01:58 AM
Last group
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 04:03:35 AM
 Great looking car, thanks for starting a separate thread....

Some little detail items are wrong as to be expected like the PCV valve, washer jug, hoses etc....however it does have the wrong master cylinder and wrong carburetors which can get expensive to correct.

Not coded for the front rubber bumper either, bit of a disappointment
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 08, 2018, 04:39:33 AM
Yea knew about the carbs
Tell me about the MC. Brake line outputs wrong?
Brake booster correct?
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 04:49:08 AM
The brake booster looks correct, but the master cylinder is a replacement unit...It functions correctly, but has a different exterior appearance. It stands out once you know what to look for.

This AAR is sporting the correct 171 Master cylinder....again only visual differences on the casting.
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: kathyscuda on November 08, 2018, 05:21:35 AM
looks like an older restoration.
whats the asking price?
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 05:29:41 AM
I would guess the asking price to be in the $65K-$75K range  :alan2cents: just my guess. Do you care to share the asking price ?
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 08, 2018, 06:14:46 AM
Asking $75k
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: 71vert340 on November 08, 2018, 06:39:32 AM
Looks like the console cover is cracked by the shifter plate. It really looks like the woodgrain bezel doesn't fit right. Price seems a little steep for a car that needs some corrections. Maybe I'm out of the loop on the e-body prices anymore.
Terry
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: kdcarman on November 08, 2018, 06:40:38 AM
Quote from: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 08, 2018, 06:14:46 AM
Asking $75k

What conditions is the paint/body work?
Do you have any pictures of the trunk pan?  If the trunk pan is original on an e-body that is an indication the car was pretty solid to start.  If it has been replaced, closer exploration of the body work would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: RUNCHARGER on November 08, 2018, 06:58:58 AM
Pretty good looking car. I noticed in your exhaust thread some bubbling above the exhaust tip, I'm sure you seen it but just in case..
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 07:05:35 AM
Quote from: kdcarman on November 08, 2018, 06:40:38 AM
Quote from: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 08, 2018, 06:14:46 AM
Asking $75k

What conditions is the paint/body work?
Do you have any pictures of the trunk pan?  If the trunk pan is original on an e-body that is an indication the car was pretty solid to start.  If it has been replaced, closer exploration of the body work would be a good idea.

You've done this before...great advice :drinkingbud:
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: kdcarman on November 08, 2018, 08:02:24 AM
Quote from: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 07:05:35 AM
Quote from: kdcarman on November 08, 2018, 06:40:38 AM
Quote from: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 08, 2018, 06:14:46 AM
Asking $75k

What conditions is the paint/body work?
Do you have any pictures of the trunk pan?  If the trunk pan is original on an e-body that is an indication the car was pretty solid to start.  If it has been replaced, closer exploration of the body work would be a good idea.

You've done this before...great advice :drinkingbud:

Some things you learn the hard way. :(
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: 303 Mopar on November 08, 2018, 09:32:48 AM
Favorite color for an AAR.  Restoration looks older and with a few things listed that it needs, I would say its closer to $65k.
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 10:11:55 AM
Don't think the car was ever "restored" , paint job maybe....I agree, being an automatic, it's closer to $65K  in my opinion
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: 6bblgt on November 08, 2018, 10:23:05 AM
Quote from: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 04:03:35 AM..... Some little detail items are wrong as to be expected like the PCV valve, washer jug, hoses etc....however it does have the wrong master cylinder and wrong carburetors which can get expensive to correct.  .....

what's wrong with the "washer jug?  :rubeyes:
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 10:30:33 AM
Most 70's got the squared off corner, while the 71's got the rounded corner. Was there a running date for this change ?
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: 6bblgt on November 08, 2018, 10:33:01 AM
yes, there was a running change - don't know when it was, but I see lots of T/A & AARs with the rounded corner
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 08, 2018, 10:33:21 AM
Great question
Center trunk pan replaced. Trunk drop offs in good condition with drain plugs still in tact. Bubbling appears to be not to extensive via a magnet test. Left rear Lower quarter behind back tire has been repaired. Right rear no mud. I will expect the car on a lift this Monday. Bubbling on rocker appears to be where the lead was inserted from new?
I am well below asking on this car. Actually prefer a 4 speed
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: kathyscuda on November 08, 2018, 10:36:04 AM
woooh too high for me.
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 10:47:26 AM
Quote from: 6bblgt on November 08, 2018, 10:33:01 AM
yes, there was a running change - don't know when it was, but I see lots of T/A & AARs with the rounded corner

Interesting :thinking: This car is 331 on the tag, 13 days prior....I can't say for sure that it's the original jug though...
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 10:53:28 AM
Quote from: kathyscuda on November 08, 2018, 10:36:04 AM
woooh too high for me.

You could offer him $18K  :dunno: :)
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: kathyscuda on November 08, 2018, 01:17:17 PM
don't laugh,i remember when AAR's were 7500.00 in Carlisle.
and that was too much.
oh well.
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 01:36:35 PM
Quote from: kathyscuda on November 08, 2018, 01:17:17 PM
don't laugh,i remember when AAR's were 7500.00 in Carlisle.
and that was too much.
oh well.

I remember them being much cheaper.....
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: kathyscuda on November 08, 2018, 02:13:59 PM
the prices could be there again.
JUST SAY NO
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: 303 Mopar on November 08, 2018, 02:16:58 PM
Quote from: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 08, 2018, 10:33:21 AM
I am well below asking on this car. Actually prefer a 4 speed

If you really want a 4 spd, be patient and wait for one. You will always wish you had one, and it will be worth more in the end.  There are a few AARs out there, check FB too.
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 02:22:57 PM
Ahhh...if only we had a time machine   :lookatthat:
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 04:38:24 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 02:22:57 PM
Ahhh...if only we had a time machine   :lookatthat:

Yeah buddy.... 12.5K for a 70 Hemi Challenger Convertible..... But Apple stock would have perhaps been an even better idea...

APPL 1982  .17 per share
APPL 2018  $200 per share

$12,500 in 1982 would have bought 73,500+ shares
73,500 shares @ 200 per share today is 14,700 dollars....

But the trick to either scenario is not selling between 1982 & today....
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 04:58:56 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 04:38:24 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 02:22:57 PM
Ahhh...if only we had a time machine   :lookatthat:

Yeah buddy.... 12.5K for a 70 Hemi Challenger Convertible..... But Apple stock would have perhaps been an even better idea...

APPL 1982  .17 per share
APPL 2018  $200 per share

$12,500 in 1982 would have bought 73,500+ shares
73,500 shares @ 200 per share today is 14,700 dollars....

But the trick to either scenario is not selling between 1982 & today....

You missed a few zeros there :o $14,700,000
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 05:01:06 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 04:58:56 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 04:38:24 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 02:22:57 PM
Ahhh...if only we had a time machine   :lookatthat:

Yeah buddy.... 12.5K for a 70 Hemi Challenger Convertible..... But Apple stock would have perhaps been an even better idea...

APPL 1982  .17 per share
APPL 2018  $200 per share

$12,500 in 1982 would have bought 73,500+ shares
73,500 shares @ 200 per share today is 14,700 dollars....

But the trick to either scenario is not selling between 1982 & today....

You missed a few zeros there :o $14,700,000

Thanks... Yes I did....
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: Lemontwist on November 08, 2018, 05:02:06 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 04:38:24 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 02:22:57 PM
Ahhh...if only we had a time machine   :lookatthat:

Yeah buddy.... 12.5K for a 70 Hemi Challenger Convertible..... But Apple stock would have perhaps been an even better idea...

APPL 1982  .17 per share
APPL 2018  $200 per share

$12,500 in 1982 would have bought 73,500+ shares
73,500 shares @ 200 per share today is 14,700 dollars....

But the trick to either scenario is not selling between 1982 & today....

You may want to check your math  73500 X $200 = $14,700,000
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: Lemontwist on November 08, 2018, 05:02:06 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 04:38:24 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 02:22:57 PM
Ahhh...if only we had a time machine   :lookatthat:

Yeah buddy.... 12.5K for a 70 Hemi Challenger Convertible..... But Apple stock would have perhaps been an even better idea...

APPL 1982  .17 per share
APPL 2018  $200 per share

$12,500 in 1982 would have bought 73,500+ shares
73,500 shares @ 200 per share today is 14,700 dollars....

But the trick to either scenario is not selling between 1982 & today....

You may want to check your math  73500 X $200 = $14,700,000

Yeah, I had it before I posted, Alan already corrected me & I've already thanked him.....  You get no thank you for being late to the party...
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 09, 2018, 06:25:45 PM
Will wait for a 4 speed, after all, and try to avoid any body work.
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 09, 2018, 06:36:20 PM
Keep in mind there is a premium on a four speed car, and that seems especially true for the Trans Am cars....When it comes to the high revving small block in an AAR Cuda or Challenger T/A,  it seems everybody wants a four speed.
Take  this orange car in question, you can expect the asking price to be likely $10K higher....$85K or so for a comparable four speed in my opinion :alan2cents:
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: RUNCHARGER on November 09, 2018, 06:37:05 PM
Yes: That price is nicer car, 4 speed territory.
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: Morty426 on November 10, 2018, 05:02:57 AM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: Lemontwist on November 08, 2018, 05:02:06 PM
Quote from: 1 Wild R/T on November 08, 2018, 04:38:24 PM
Quote from: anlauto on November 08, 2018, 02:22:57 PM
Ahhh...if only we had a time machine   :lookatthat:

Yeah buddy.... 12.5K for a 70 Hemi Challenger Convertible..... But Apple stock would have perhaps been an even better idea...

APPL 1982  .17 per share
APPL 2018  $200 per share

$12,500 in 1982 would have bought 73,500+ shares
73,500 shares @ 200 per share today is 14,700 dollars....

But the trick to either scenario is not selling between 1982 & today....

You may want to check your math  73500 X $200 = $14,700,000

Yeah, I had it before I posted, Alan already corrected me & I've already thanked him.....  You get no thank you for being late to the party...

Actually your math might be way more off than that.  I don't think 82 price you used accounts for all the splits.

I went to work for Apple in June 1997 when it was at rock bottom and the price was $12, but to get to todays value you need divide by the three splits that were at 2, 2 and 7 - so to compare it today you need $12/2/2/7 = 43 cents

I bought as much as I could and told three people to buy - my mother in law, my father and my adopted grand father (his an older gentleman / car collector.  Only the last one bought and he sold when he got to 20X

As for me if I had kept every share I bought and was awarded I'd have ..... well lets not go there  :deadhorse:
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 10, 2018, 06:40:11 AM
I have a hard time being patient :crazytalk: Since I decided to wait it out I found a really nice Tor Red car with a red/white interior but it too is an automatic. Car is restored without original tranny or build sheet. Low miles, no rally dash. Will keep the hunt going.
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 10, 2018, 06:47:59 AM
It wouldn't be "Tor-red" ....Tor-red is paint code EV2 which is the same as Hemi orange....I know it's confusing....

The car you're talking about is likely FE5 Rallye Red., it's been for sale for a while.
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: dodgemania on November 10, 2018, 06:51:10 AM
how about this one  :rubeyes:  https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/aar/2156211.html
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: anlauto on November 10, 2018, 06:57:00 AM
Quote from: dodgemania on November 10, 2018, 06:51:10 AM
how about this one  :rubeyes:  https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/aar/2156211.html

Funny I was just thinking about the car too....
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: dodgemania on November 10, 2018, 07:07:05 AM
there is not many 4 speed for sale and it's not perfekt but i like it
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on November 10, 2018, 07:41:56 AM
It is nice to see something other than Red or Orange.... I like the Blue one.... I like Yellow too..... Sassy Grass & Lime look good, F8 looks good too.....
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: kdcarman on November 10, 2018, 08:07:50 AM
Quote from: anlauto on November 10, 2018, 06:57:00 AM
Quote from: dodgemania on November 10, 2018, 06:51:10 AM
how about this one  :rubeyes:  https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/plymouth/aar/2156211.html

Funny I was just thinking about the car too....

Seems like a nice car for a realistic price.
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: RUNCHARGER on November 10, 2018, 01:20:54 PM
Overall pretty good. At least you could work with it. The wheels look terrible, wrong aircleaner lid etc. but those things are easily corrected as long as the body is trouble free.
Title: Re: Looking at this AAR
Post by: SeventyTX9RTRag on November 11, 2018, 07:25:42 AM
I spoke to this guy, and seemed to be evasive. I will call him back and chat about the car. I like Blue/Blue.