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Title: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 15, 2019, 07:20:02 AM
I restored this one a few years back...
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0519-378674/1971-dodge-challenger-convertible/

:o
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: Cuda_mark on May 15, 2019, 07:56:20 AM
Rear interior panels look good on it. Were they originals to the car in good shape?
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 15, 2019, 08:34:18 AM
Quote from: Cuda_mark on May 15, 2019, 07:56:20 AM
Rear interior panels look good on it. Were they originals to the car in good shape?

I'm pretty sure the guy we bought the car from (a member here) supplied a decent set of originals. :thinking:
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: 71vert340 on May 15, 2019, 08:48:21 AM
You do great restorations Alan but this was more than a nut and bolt restoration. Were you able to reuse the front clip of this car? It looks like more than 60% of the car unibody was replaced. It will be interesting to see what it is bid to.
Terry
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: 6bblgt on May 15, 2019, 09:33:25 AM
 :thinking: and is that a factory SHAKER hood JH27H1B convertible or was it added?
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: headejm on May 15, 2019, 09:43:44 AM
I would like to own that beautiful car. Wonder what it will go for? I'm not in at $160k.  :stop:
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 15, 2019, 09:49:31 AM
Quote from: 6bblgt on May 15, 2019, 09:33:25 AM
:thinking: and is that a factory SHAKER hood JH27H1B convertible or was it added?

It was bought and restored under the belief it was, but that section of the buildsheet was missing and the original tag was missing too...In this picture the firewall is wearing original paint.
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 15, 2019, 09:54:02 AM
Don't think we used much of the front clip either.... :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 15, 2019, 09:55:08 AM
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Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: 71vert340 on May 15, 2019, 10:52:24 AM
 It's amazing you saved it Alan. The only solid looking metal in the photos is the square tubing cross bracing in the door openings and the roll around cart underneath. It seems it would have been more cost effective just to find another 340 convertible with less rust to start with. Convertibles tend to be rust buckets unless they were not driven. Someday, I need to pull my convertible apart and I know there's problems but at least I have all the paperwork for it, including the original window sticker and that's all worth something.
Terry.
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: superdave on May 15, 2019, 10:52:33 AM
 :unbelievable: Wow, that's about as close to my dream car as I have seen but that's a pretty humble starting point. Glad it was saved!! 8)  8)
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: challengermaniac on May 15, 2019, 10:55:36 AM
The Art of True Craftsmanship just blows my mind Alan!  Absolutely wonderful......
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: 303 Mopar on May 15, 2019, 11:03:35 AM
Quote from: headejm on May 15, 2019, 09:43:44 AM
I would like to own that beautiful car. Wonder what it will go for? I'm not in at $160k.  :stop:

He is selling it at the right location as Indy and Kissimmee are the two top Mecum auctions for Mopars. Love the car however, IMO a '71 340 Chally vert will not come close to $160k.
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 15, 2019, 11:33:35 AM
It will be interesting...I'm agreeing with you, but you never know ?
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: 71vert340 on May 15, 2019, 01:31:17 PM
 So Alan, I have to ask. You did this car several years ago. If someone brought this car to you today in the condition you received it before, and knowing all the problem areas that needed repair,  what would be the cost in US dollars to bring it to this level of restoration? I'd hazard a guess at $105k.
Terry
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 15, 2019, 01:46:36 PM
Quote from: 71vert340 on May 15, 2019, 01:31:17 PM
So Alan, I have to ask. You did this car several years ago. If someone brought this car to you today in the condition you received it before, and knowing all the problem areas that needed repair,  what would be the cost in US dollars to bring it to this level of restoration? I'd hazard a guess at $105k.
Terry

I don't think you're too far off at $100K...I finished that car March 2010 ...nine years ago and I think it was roughly $30K CDN in metal work back then. Keep in mind there wasn't a lot of AMD sheet metal back then. A lot of that car is OEM metal.

I would think it would be easier today with the aftermarket parts available, but still would be about $30K USD in rust repair and another $60K+ in restoration.
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: 303 Mopar on May 17, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: anlauto on May 15, 2019, 11:33:35 AM
It will be interesting...I'm agreeing with you, but you never know ?

Well the perfect scenario happened and two bidders went head-to-head and this car sold for $275k!  A phone bidder finally got it.   :takemymoney:
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 17, 2019, 12:29:55 PM
WOW...This must be a OUT OF THIS WORLD record for a 69 340 Cuda  :o $440K WTF ????
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0519-371526/1969-plymouth-barracuda-mod-top/
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: 7212Mopar on May 17, 2019, 12:30:51 PM
$275k for a 340 convertible. The guy must wanted it bad.
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 17, 2019, 12:31:58 PM
Quote from: 303 Mopar on May 17, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
Quote from: anlauto on May 15, 2019, 11:33:35 AM
It will be interesting...I'm agreeing with you, but you never know ?

Well the perfect scenario happened and two bidders went head-to-head and this car sold for $275k!  A phone bidder finally got it.   :takemymoney:


YIKES over $302K with commission  :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 17, 2019, 12:42:19 PM
How about a 71 Cuda convertible for $1.155 MILLION that's NOT a HEMICUDA  :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: 71vert340 on May 17, 2019, 12:54:13 PM
  That's a lot of $ for a Challenger convertible. I guess the one thing I find interesting is that someone would pay that kind of money for a shaker car that cannot be verified as being original. And the amount of money paid for the 69 Cuda has me shaking my head. What  does this kind of money being spent do to the value of other rare Mopars? I know the owner of the 70 Challenger 440- 6 shaker plum crazy convertible in Montana and he must be doing a rethink of what his car is worth. I'm wondering now if I should raise the insurance coverage of my convertible to more than $60k. The auction prices are hard to get ahead of.
Terry
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: ledphoot on May 17, 2019, 01:16:29 PM
What a bad case of metal termites that car had.. wow... Your work is truly amazing Alan, very few people could have, or even would have considered doing that job.

There's a lot of money out there, hopefully this economy keeps up for a while for those who are looking to turn some of this old iron in to $
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 17, 2019, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: ledphoot on May 17, 2019, 01:16:29 PM
What a bad case of metal termites that car had.. wow... Your work is truly amazing Alan, very few people could have, or even would have considered doing that job.

There's a lot of money out there, hopefully this economy keeps up for a while for those who are looking to turn some of this old iron in to $

It just proves anything can be fixed. :alan2cents:
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: 71vert340 on May 17, 2019, 02:11:53 PM
  True but now everyone with a rusted out ebody hulk out on the back 40 acres thinks they have 2 gold mines.
Terry
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: 750-h2 on May 17, 2019, 02:19:31 PM
Legendary's 1970 Hemi Cuda convertible. $1,980,000!
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0519-378669/1970-plymouth-hemi-cuda-convertible/
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 17, 2019, 04:45:26 PM
Quote from: 750-h2 on May 17, 2019, 02:19:31 PM
Legendary's 1970 Hemi Cuda convertible. $1,980,000!
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0519-378669/1970-plymouth-hemi-cuda-convertible/

Yup and I believe Peter owned this purple convertible too  :bigmoney:
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 17, 2019, 06:53:38 PM
I think the new buyer should go after false advertising.... :pullinghair:

How can it be a "nut and bolt rotisserie restoration" when I've never put the car of a rotisserie ? :wave:
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: RUNCHARGER on May 17, 2019, 06:59:27 PM
People are nutz. I know where there is a lot nicer Mod Top than that car. 340, 4 speed, black and a perfect restoration.
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: nsmall on May 17, 2019, 09:15:05 PM
 :iagree:  Not wanting to go negative on that mod top, but that I hope they didnt buy it thinking it was "restored" as the whole car needs some love. 
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 18, 2019, 03:51:13 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on May 17, 2019, 06:59:27 PM
People are nutz. I know where there is a lot nicer Mod Top than that car. 340, 4 speed, black and a perfect restoration.

Maybe whoever bought it wants to park it beside Steven's ModTop 70 Hemicuda :vipermanhiding: :vipermanhiding: :haha: :haha:
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Post by: YYZ on May 18, 2019, 04:31:25 AM
Interesting how a few of the added options have become 'authenticated' as the car has changed hands.

It is a legit purple/white/white 340 4-speed, believed to be N96, and the drivetrain is indeed numbers-matching.  Power top, console, dual painted mirrors.

Rallye dash and white stripes are two definite add-ons (which look great), but it was a standard dash car and with body side moulding.
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 18, 2019, 04:37:15 AM
I hope the new owner sees this thread  :)  Car still looks good after all these years... :worship:
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: E74cuda on May 19, 2019, 01:39:25 PM
I was just talking with a friend and he brought up something interesting. It seems that Peter Klutt bought this Cobra at the auction that Mecum owned for 2.4M. Two of the cars that Klutt ran through were the 1970 hemicuda convertible that sold at 1.98M and the 1971 Challenger 340 convertible that sold at 302k. Seems like the math is pretty close on this potential deal.



https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0519-371521/1966-shelby-427-cobra-roadster/



Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: 76orangewagon on May 19, 2019, 01:53:23 PM
Quote from: anlauto on May 17, 2019, 12:29:55 PM
WOW...This must be a OUT OF THIS WORLD record for a 69 340 Cuda  :o $440K WTF ????
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0519-371526/1969-plymouth-barracuda-mod-top/

I was standing next to that guy when he bought it, he also bought two of the cut away motors, he spent about $1,000,000 on those three items...oh yea he was buying lots of Road Art the next morning also for big bucks. When the auction for the Mod Top was over the auctioneer said "lets get some more of that material and put it on all these cars".
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 19, 2019, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: 76orangewagon on May 19, 2019, 01:53:23 PM
Quote from: anlauto on May 17, 2019, 12:29:55 PM
WOW...This must be a OUT OF THIS WORLD record for a 69 340 Cuda  :o $440K WTF ????
https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0519-371526/1969-plymouth-barracuda-mod-top/

I was standing next to that guy when he bought it, he also bought two of the cut away motors, he spent about $1,000,000 on those three items...oh yea he was buying lots of Road Art the next morning also for big bucks. When the auction for the Mod Top was over the auctioneer said "lets get some more of that material and put it on all these cars".

What was the guy thinking ? That mod top car should be a $40K car...he over paid by $400K  :o
Title: Re: MECUM ..another one to watch...
Post by: anlauto on May 19, 2019, 02:15:01 PM
Quote from: E74cuda on May 19, 2019, 01:39:25 PM
I was just talking with a friend and he brought up something interesting. It seems that Peter Klutt bought this Cobra at the auction that Mecum owned for 2.4M. Two of the cars that Klutt ran through were the 1970 hemicuda convertible that sold at 1.98M and the 1971 Challenger 340 convertible that sold at 302k. Seems like the math is pretty close on this potential deal.



https://www.mecum.com/lots/SC0519-371521/1966-shelby-427-cobra-roadster/

Doesn't surprise me, Peter's career started with Cobra's  :twothumbsup: