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Off-Topic => General Topics => Topic started by: 7E-Bodies on July 26, 2019, 08:07:57 PM

Title: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 7E-Bodies on July 26, 2019, 08:07:57 PM
Probably futile, but here goes. My 70 RT is more than likely from a dealership within 50 miles or so of Cleveland Ohio. I have (thanks to Barry Washington) some telltale documentation back to '76. Those documents are from an owner registering it with the "Special Interest Auto Club". The owners name shows up (with the same wife) in an online directory (minus phone number) still in the area. I sent them a snail mail and got no reply. Is it possible to locate a car's original dealership from just these hints?  The guy I bought it from last year said it had always been in the Cleveland area. Thoughts? Hints? Help?
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on July 26, 2019, 08:19:03 PM
SIAC was nationwide... I was a member & registered my car... And years later got that info back from Barry...
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 7E-Bodies on July 26, 2019, 08:22:13 PM
But the SIAC documents from 76 show it near Cleveland even then. I wish I could find another decal. This windshield has some scratches and may need replaced.
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on July 26, 2019, 08:48:35 PM
Quote from: 7E-Bodies on July 26, 2019, 08:22:13 PM
But the SIAC documents from 76 show it near Cleveland even then. I wish I could find another decal. This windshield has some scratches and may need replaced.

Might try contacting a few old members & see if they would part with one they may have floating around....
And if you do come up with one it would be cool to get it scanned so it could be reproduced...
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 7E-Bodies on July 26, 2019, 09:38:26 PM
I would gladly get them reproduced as long as it didn't violate any copyrights.
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 61K T/A on July 27, 2019, 04:27:56 AM
I have every issue of the  AAR and decals. LMK if your interested
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: anlauto on July 27, 2019, 04:42:48 AM
1970 to 1976 is a big time period for a car to move around. It could have been sold new on the other side of the country :dunno:
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 7E-Bodies on July 27, 2019, 04:44:43 AM
@61K T/A (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/61k-ta_161) I'd be interested in one of the decals as I'm probably going to have to replace the original windshield. It has scratches from old wiper negligence somewhere in its past. Family owns a vinyl printing and decal business and may be able to duplicate one without destroying a sample. Nothing I have to have, but it'd be cool to keep the car as I found it. My iPhone number is in my profile if you wish to text me about it. Thanks.

Kevin
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 7E-Bodies on July 27, 2019, 04:48:59 AM
@anlauto (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/anlauto_19) I can't disagree, it's just a shot. I do know Ohio DMV is way more helpful to people than this pitiful state of Illinois is. I plan to make some contacts there to see if they'd trace its history.
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: RUNCHARGER on July 27, 2019, 07:56:08 AM
I was in SIAC and have my old newsletters as well. Back then cars didn't move around as much as now. I never seen used cars on a transporter back then.
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 1 Wild R/T on July 27, 2019, 08:29:20 AM
Quote from: RUNCHARGER on July 27, 2019, 07:56:08 AM
I was in SIAC and have my old newsletters as well. Back then cars didn't move around as much as now. I never seen used cars on a transporter back then.

True, but people sure got around.... Especially guys in the military... In 73 when returning from Turkey we picked up Dad's new Chrysler in New Jersey, within a month it it was in Las Vegas & with 18 months it was in California... And probably 75% of the new cars on Nellis car from someplace other than Nevada....
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: anlauto on July 27, 2019, 09:03:47 AM
That's kinda what I was thinking...the owner moving around, taking the car with him.. also from early on, these cars were kinda of special too, so if you wanted one in the mid 70's I don't think it would be that unusual to buy one from another State if there were none in your area  :dunno:
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: Brads70 on July 27, 2019, 09:30:14 AM
Quote from: 7E-Bodies on July 27, 2019, 04:44:43 AM
Family owns a vinyl printing and decal business and may be able to duplicate one without destroying a sample.
Kevin

:idea:  Do you need to have an original in hand or could you reproduce something from a picture with measurements? What are the costs for something like this? I have no idea...?
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 6bblgt on July 27, 2019, 09:43:07 AM
I and another #s  :crazytalk: have been talking about being able to track "SOLD" cars to their original dealership or area (currently in VERY early stages)

one problem with Cleveland is probably 50 Dodge dealerships within that 50 miles, what city does the SAIC paperwork show & what date (owned since '76 doesn't imply owned at that address)

most "00" VONs appear to be from close to Detroit or the northeast states, and the Chrysler Lease Car (Y17) would probably point to a Chrysler vehicle auction early in the car's life
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 7E-Bodies on July 27, 2019, 11:26:15 AM
@6bblgt (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/6bblgt_211) mine is definitely a Y17. Good point. It's VON is 002082. Here are the pics, front and back, of the two documents Barry had.
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 70/6chall on July 27, 2019, 12:23:13 PM
Say Guys, I too was a S.I.A.C. ( Special Interest Auto Club ) member. Remember joining up back in 1985, stayed with them until they no longer existed. Probably, don't know for sure if I had one of the only Slant6 cars. Pics are my wife's and my membership cards, and my original application form, sent to me by Barry Washington in 2016. Thank you Barry. I have a lot of the club magazines also.
As I was searching for my SIAC things, I ran across this small B&W pocket guide. The Dodge salesmen carried this little handy guide in their shirt pocket, to answer any and all questions asked by customers on the new for '70 Dodge Challenger. I don't have any club decals hanging around. If one of you old SIAC club members happen to still have any window decals in your hands would cheerfully buy a couple from you.If your able to have some scanned without any legal issues please let me know.
Thanks,   Al
Title: Re: Hints on finding your car's original dealership
Post by: 7E-Bodies on July 27, 2019, 01:05:44 PM
@70/6chall (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/706chall_390) would you consider reaching out to @Cuda Cody (https://forum.e-bodies.org/mlist/cuda-cody_1) with those pamphlets? He may want to scan them onto the site. I've loaned him a rare find to scan and he got it right back to me.
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